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Really, 8K is wasted on anything less than 77” and if you’re not viewing less than 10 feet from it. 4K is the gold standard and will remain that way for years to come.

This is a very good point. We also have to take into account the fact that a lot of content won't ever be redone in 8K. A lot of the classic movies and even recent ones are ever going to see 4K at the most.
 
Even though 8K is obviously better than 4K, we still need more K! 8K is not enough K!! Even though 8K is more than my current amount of K, I want at least 14 or 15K. Unless they start giving us 14 or 15K, in which case I absolutely need at least 21K!! Can never have too much K.
 
15 years after HD, 90% of my broadcasts are still 720p. And now we're onto 8k? 🙄

I personally hardly ever watch a live TV broadcast.
I watch Netflix, YouTube, Amazon Prime, Apple TV stuff, etc. Luckily plenty to watch. Particularly now that 4K camera is in almost everybody's pocket. So yes, bring on the 8K and let the live TV broadcast die slowly.
 
Honestly meh. 4K is still barely out of infancy, by the time 8k content is out in any meaningful way it'll be time to get a new TV!
 
Stop watching broadcast TV! 99% of the content on streaming services is 1080 or above. Any film made or remastered in the last 4-5 years is going to be available in 4K. Similar situation with video games, 4K consoles came out in 2017.

It's not a content issue for broadcast TV. It's that the signal has to be compatible with over the air broadcasts, and the ATSC 1.0 standard required by law only allows 720p or 1080i. So it's a question of which is worse between lower resolution or interlacing.
Game consoles cannot do 4K exactly, it’s just upscaled marketing BS. My GTX 2080 has trouble with 4K at 60fps. And that card alone was 2x the cost of the Xbox One X
What else? Blueray (LOL)?

A 8k HEVC stream is 84 Mbps. If this becomes the standard this will lead to massive internet bandwidth problems in urban areas.

Currently, people are happy if you have a reasonably stable intercontinental connection with e.g. 1080p Facetime. Globally, this is the maximum resolution that can be transmitted individually without major problems.
Nobody will like buggy 8K connections with interruptions with no significant visual improvement.

Of course, 8K only makes sense for large projection surfaces, projector or TV. For that you have to buy the premises first ;-)

Cost: Larger displays have the disadvantage of production costs growing exponentially to the screen diagonal.

Internet in the US is very crappy anyway. I only have Spectrum. That’s it. I get 500mbps down and I STILL have issues, even 1080p streaming. It’s always some equipment in the neighborhood that’s the problem.
 
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For those who like to brag I got a 8 k TV but nothing is broadcast in 8k.
 
Stop watching broadcast TV! 99% of the content on streaming services is 1080 or above. Any film made or remastered in the last 4-5 years is going to be available in 4K.

Most films even today are only shot in 2K as far as I know. They are just pixel doubled when released on UHD 4K to the general public.

8K is just silly. Its going to be years before streaming bandwidth can handle that resolution and with data caps still being used your going to hit your limit 3 movies into the month.
 
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The main positive I see is that it may push computer monitor resolution higher.

I hope so. It’s 2020 and I still can’t find a 4K monitor @ 21.5” outside of the iMac. Even at 24”, there’s only a couple of monitors and they are models from several years ago.
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This is a very good point. We also have to take into account the fact that a lot of content won't ever be redone in 8K. A lot of the classic movies and even recent ones are ever going to see 4K at the most.

True. But there was a time when every movie ever made was in black & white. I also think anything shot on film is capable of more than 4K (not sure you’d be able to see the difference though).
 
The REAL story of CES is that rolling TV. If that becomes affordable in a few years, I'm with that.

8K means nothing to most people because there is NO content whatsoever. My local channels barely broadcast 1080. 8K is an inevitable step due to 35mm resolution, Beyond 8K is useless to consumers.

8K+rollable = 2026 dream set. Before then, it's not worth the resolution or price tag.
 
Also want to point out that both “8K” and “4K” are stupid names. Why did we switch to counting resolution along the horizontal axis after decades of using the vertical axis?

“8K” should be called “4K”. And “4K” should be called “2K”. And we can change “1080p” to “1K”. At least that would make things consistent.
 
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Really, 8K is wasted on anything less than 77” and if you’re not viewing less than 10 feet from it. 4K is the gold standard and will remain that way for years to come.
Good point. I would be interested to know what is the average sized TV in an American living room today. I am probably behind the curve with a 55" 1080p. I have seen 85" TVs at Best Buy along side the smaller ones but I have never looked into how many of each size are actually being sold. I have considered upgrading my TV but 100% of my viewing is now streaming (Apple TV+, Disney, Curiosity Stream, or YouTube) and I do most of my viewing on either my MBP or my 5K iMac.
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What Apple device supports 8k? Mac Pro?
There are rumors of a new Apple TV 6th Gen coming out soon. The 5th gen model from a couple years ago was the first to support 4K so the new one MIGHT support 8K.
 
Hopefully now LG will discount their clearly "crappy" and "outdated" 4K OLEDs instead of charging $3000 for a 65".

Really, 8K is wasted on anything less than 77” and if you’re not viewing less than 10 feet from it. 4K is the gold standard and will remain that way for years to come.
There are calculators online which show 8K benefits at 10ft closer to 120-150" for 20/20 vision. It's all hype. But hopefully this will drive down 4K prices as 8K wedges into the top of the market. Let the fools buy it and the rest of us will benefit.
 
OLED is DOA. MicroLED is where its heading and I hope they will push it fast as I really don't like OLED in general. Too many issues :)

But, if it makes the 4K OLED's cheaper I am all for it. I have a 55 inch 4K OLED already, but if a 77" dropped down into the $2k range, I might want to upgrade
 
Question, is there any LG advertising in the UI, years ago I bought 2 LG Tv sets, no LG adds on them until after an update, WTF, LG Adds in the UI, I despise Branding adds on my own TV, I can barely agree with Logo's, although LG Logo's are small unlike SAMSUNG.
 
Not just 720p, but compressed 720p usually (at least with cable).

That being said, still content with my 55" LH B7 OLED. :)


A 10 year old Pioneer Plasma with a well sourced 1080p signal still beats out everything besides the latest OLEDs with UHD HDR.
 
Game consoles cannot do 4K exactly, it’s just upscaled marketing BS. My GTX 2080 has trouble with 4K at 60fps. And that card alone was 2x the cost of the Xbox One X

Most Xbox One X 4K games run at 3840x2160. Most PS4Pro are upscaled from a resolution greater than 1080. It's just that people on PC crank up the quality before resolution, whereas console games are usually set no more than a medium quality setting.

Cost isn't a valid comparison because game consoles are subsidized by the games and subscription.
 
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We get 4K broadcast in Canada but it’s limited and mainly just sports.

However, I don’t watch a lot of sports.

Yes, my main 4K viewing is Netflix, Prime Video, and AppleTV. I may be getting Disney+ soon too.

I also buy some 4K UHD Blu-ray discs.

Hockey in 4K, eh? That would be really nice, although I'm a Golden Knights fan, I would enjoy watching Winnipeg or Edmonton games. The NHL app is adequate, but pricey to watch every game, and I'm limited to my iPad or iPhone for the Free Game of the Week.
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What Apple device supports 8k? Mac Pro?
The Mac Pro's main purpose (with the Afterburner card) is to be able to really enable 4K and 8K workflows and content creation. That being said, most modern Macs can edit a single stream of 4K or 8K, multi-cam workflows and 10-bit, 60fps and/or HDR footage is going to require a high end dGPU/eGPU equipped Mac, such as an iMac or an iMac Pro, preferably a Mac Pro. Editing is possible, but adding LUTs, effects and muti-cam is where the rubber meets the road.
 
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Hockey in 4K, eh? That would be really nice, although I'm a Golden Knights fan, I would enjoy watching Winnipeg or Edmonton games. The NHL app is adequate, but pricey to watch every game, and I'm limited to my iPad or iPhone for the Free Game of the Week.
Yes, 4K NHL, NBA, CFL, MLB, etc.

Only some games though.
 
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Letterkenny is on Crave in Canada but Crave is still 720p. BTW, Crave is actually the streaming service that originally commissioned Letterkenny. I hear that it’s a Hulu exclusive going forward though.

However, I don’t watch it. Have never seen a full episode, even though I have a Crave subscription.

yeah i didn't see you were in canada. :) i'm still plowing through the crave era so i see it. either way, canada has given us schitt's creek and letterkenny and robin sparkles (?) ... what else are we missing?!
 
I wonder what homekit support means. If they got Apple to agree to let them use the TV as a homekit hub, does that mean they had to remove all the advertising from the menus and data collection?

I just picked up a C9 model last month. It doesn’t act as a hub, but it shows up as a Television device to HomeKit. It can be turned on or off via HomeKit, and the input can be selected. So you could, in theory, create a scene which turned on a Blu-Ray player (perhaps via a switched outlet), turned on the television, and selected the Blu-Ray input source.

There’s no control of the volume or audio output, though, and only an option in the Home application to adjust more complex settings on the TV itself (like pressing the Settings button on the TV remote).

(For what it’s worth, you can actually disable the advertising on the LG in settings, too.)
 
I hope so. It’s 2020 and I still can’t find a 4K monitor @ 21.5” outside of the iMac. Even at 24”, there’s only a couple of monitors and they are models from several years ago.
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True. But there was a time when every movie ever made was in black & white. I also think anything shot on film is capable of more than 4K (not sure you’d be able to see the difference though).

Remember that a significant amount of movies "filmed" digitally were shot at 2K resolution and have CGI rendered at 2K resolution. For all intents and purposes, Full HD (1920x1080) is still where we're stuck at and will be for a very long time, at least for source material that has not been remastered or film that needs scanning, color grading and cleanup before mastering to streaming, Blu-Ray, et al.

Call me old and outdated, but I was more impressed with the footage coming out of an old ARRI @ 1080p and a cinema lens than I have been with some of the so-called 4K and 6K "cine" DSLR cameras we have at our disposal -
 
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