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OLED is DOA. MicroLED is where its heading and I hope they will push it fast as I really don't like OLED in general. Too many issues :)

Yeah, I would definitely prefer a MicroLED display. I hate worrying about burn-in, but with a TV I don't leave it on all the time, and am conscious of static images for long term use, so and OLED is fine for me in that application.
 
Not really sure what you mean.

All Australian primary free to air channels broadcast in 720/1080. Cable channels are 1080 along with 4K for movies and sports while you can stream most of the free to air and cable channels at 720/1080 as well.
Well pretty sure channels like 7Two and 7Mate are still in SD. We are getting there slowly I must admit.
 
Yeah, I know. I bought TV last year (Sony 900F 65") and for a second I did consider OLED but in the end decided against it. LCD is just proved technology and although OLED has some advantages (pure blacks) the local dimming we get these days is not that bad so I decided to not babysit my TV and get something that is solid.
MicroLED will be awesome but that is at least 5 years away from any reasonable level (if not longer).
OLED was a misstep tech to be honest.


Yeah, I would definitely prefer a MicroLED display. I hate worrying about burn-in, but with a TV I don't leave it on all the time, and am conscious of static images for long term use, so and OLED is fine for me in that application.
 
Yeah, I know. I bought TV last year (Sony 900F 65") and for a second I did consider OLED but in the end decided against it. LCD is just proved technology and although OLED has some advantages (pure blacks) the local dimming we get these days is not that bad so I decided to not babysit my TV and get something that is solid.
MicroLED will be awesome but that is at least 5 years away from any reasonable level (if not longer).
OLED was a misstep tech to be honest.
The difference in quality between OLED and most LED is huge. Local dimming is OK, but just isn’t in the same league.

About the only babysitting you need for OLED is not to leave the TV on the same cable channel news ticker or same video game HUD 12 hours a day.
 
True, but OLED doesn't age as well as LCD. For example the blue channel dies faster so it creates imbalance.
For a tv that i want to keep for 7+ years I want longevity :)
Otherwise I agree with you :)



The difference in quality between OLED and most LED is huge. Local dimming is OK, but just isn’t in the same league.

About the only babysitting you need for OLED is not to leave the TV on the same cable channel news ticker or same video game HUD 12 hours a day.
 
Well pretty sure channels like 7Two and 7Mate are still in SD. We are getting there slowly I must admit.
FTA is a reality TV wasteland. I will not be basing my TV purchase decisions on FTS. I stream or bluray.
the embarrassment that is the Australian media Industry, much of which I am forced to pay for through taxes, can just get stuffed.
 
2K movies released as 4K discs often look better than 2K discs upscaled. One big reason is HDR.
Sure, but my point was to specifically address resolution. 8K is all but useless when most content is still mastered at 2K.
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True, but OLED doesn't age as well as LCD. For example the blue channel dies faster so it creates imbalance.
For a tv that i want to keep for 7+ years I want longevity :)
Otherwise I agree with you :)
That is only an issue with small OLED screens, where the OLED subpixels produce different colors. All current consumer OLED TV’s use only white subpixels, but put a color filter in front of each subpixel.
 
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You can't directly compare bitrate to bitrate because 4K is compressed in HEVC (or VP9 for Google) and 1080p traditionally has been in H.264. Conversely, 4K comes with HDR 10 and 12 bit formats, and complex sound like Dolby Atmos.

Similarly, we're going to see 8K adopting newer compression like VVC.

Fair point about the format! Though I stand by my point about game consoles.

The 6th generation of consoles (PS2, GameCube, XBox) introduced 720p/1080i support but none of the games could run it. Then the 7th generation (PS3, XBox 360) supported 1080p but most games were running a lower resolution (720p/960p) upscaled. The 8th generation (PS4, XBox One) could handle full native 1080p, but then 4K screens came out. They released an interim generation (PS4 Pro, XBox One X) that doubled performance and "supports" 4K, but the vast majority of content is 8th gen games actually running in 2K/1440p upscaled.


The 9th generation should in theory have no problem with 4K, except people will also expect better looking games. One of the big bragging points is raytracing. Developers will probably have to pick between doing full 4K games that are only a "little bit" better than the previous gen, or doing a lower internal resolution and making games that support fancy new visual features like raytracing.


The idea that we're anywhere near 8K support in consoles is unfortunately just not realistic. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the PS5/XBox Series X had an HDMI port that is *capable* of *outputting* 8K, but I'd bet very little content will actually be *natively* in 8K, just upscaled from 4K.

Though I suppose there will definitely be opportunity to port 7th gen console games over and run them in native 8K since they have less polygons.
 
Any film made or remastered in the last 4-5 years is going to be available in 4K. Similar situation with video games, 4K consoles came out in 2017.

I'm sorry, but this is bad information. It may be 4K in the number of pixels it has, but it doesn't mean it's been produced/filmed in 4K. There's a huge difference. All of my Onkyo receivers can upconvert Mario Bros to 4K, but it doesn't make it look any better. It's still 320x240. In video games, the textures still aren't 4K either, the overhead on the GPU would be more than a console could bear. Some of the newest consoles like the Xbox One X and PS4 Pro can display 4K games, but it doesn't mean the textures are actually 4K. Again, it's just throwing up 4K on the screen over HDMI. Granted, there are some, but not most by far.

The truth is, the world is still adapting to 4K, and I would even go a step further and say we're still catching up to 1080p. While 4K uses 25Mbps (which is quite a bit), 8K uses between 50-100Mbps (but realistically 80-100Mbps). I think 8K TVs are cool but it would be like owning a Core i9 octocore system with a Nvidia RTX2080 GPU in 2005. Other than the few demos that are out in 8K, there's just no content.
 
What will these cost?

We might know indicative price ranges this week, but we'll need to wait until they're available to purchase to get actual retail prices. The lower end models may cost about half the cost of the price of launch prices by November/December, but the higher end products tend not to fall as much.
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Where is the Apple TV app for WebOS??? :(

I'm with you on this. I'm disappointed with LG's approach to updates – they're very slow to implement new features and apps to recent models (if at all). LG is not alone in this respect, but it strengthens the case not relying on smart TVs and going for separate devices – effectively making smart TVs just displays for devices like Apple TV, Fire TV sticks and cable/satellite boxes.
 
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FTA is a reality TV wasteland. I will not be basing my TV purchase decisions on FTS. I stream or bluray.
the embarrassment that is the Australian media Industry, much of which I am forced to pay for through taxes, can just get stuffed.
I agree. I stick with my DVDs and Blu-Rays and Streaming. Only watch TV if it's sports.
 
When are they adding AirPlay + AppleTV to the C7?

Never.
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I wonder what homekit support means. If they got Apple to agree to let them use the TV as a homekit hub, does that mean they had to remove all the advertising from the menus and data collection?

It just means the TV can be controlled via Homekit. Not used as a hub.
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Why can't they make a nice 46" TV? I do not want a 65" TV its too freaking big!

46" is tiny and there's no reason for an 8k TV less than 65" to even exist.
 
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