I totally agree. However, I think Jobs and Apple might have come up with something good, otherwise I don't think Apple would be making one. They've shrugged off the tablet and netbooks for a very long time. They must have something original here, something we haven't seen in a tablet. But I'm already bored to death of all the rumours. Bonjour update on page 2 is a nice break.
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CES: Palm Pre Plus and Pixi Plus, Dell 5-Inch Tablet Prototype
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I totally agree. However, I think Jobs and Apple might have come up with something good, otherwise I don't think Apple would be making one. They've shrugged off the tablet and netbooks for a very long time. They must have something original here, something we haven't seen in a tablet. But I'm already bored to death of all the rumours. Bonjour update on page 2 is a nice break.
That's what people said when the iPod was announced. Then the iPhone. I still think Apple makes damn fine computers, but it's not their focus anymore and probably never will be again, it's only important in that it supports the consumer device ecosystem.
The iPhone is a phone+touch device, the tablet would be a reader and/or computer, the iPhone can get away with 3.5" because it works for what it needs too, the tablet not being a handheld gaming device or a phone falls flat with it's extra 1.5" because of the content being smaller. I feel tablets should run 8" at the smallest, any smaller and why not just try to make a damn touch device like the iPod touch or the iPhone, because your extra 1.5" isn't going to matter that much or WOW anyone.If a 5" screen is too small for readability and comfortable touchscreen operation, how does anyone manage to use the iPhone's 3.5" screen?
When the iPod came out, it changed the portable music player ecosystem forever. I could still listen to my music the same way I listened to CD's, Cassettes, and vinyl LP's; through speakers. It just made the device more portable, and easy to use.
I don't see how Magazines or Newspapers get any easier to use then they are now. They ARE. I am not scrolling, searching, downloading and organizing them on a device. If I want a newspaper, I will pick one up. If I want the news, I will go to the website and read it. I don't need another way to display what I can already do just fine.
This isn't making it easier to find sought after music. This isn't making my life better by storing a newspaper. How many newspapers have you kept, so you can read again? The material becomes dated, the instant it is created. I don't need to store it, organize it or care about it.
So this product better connect to Buddha and make a cup of coffee using thin air, because I fail to see the need, except as a luxury novelty.
You're funny. Apparently, you're not getting too tired... you read the article and then wrote a post!
This is extreme religion of Apple fanboyism that is on this forum makes me embarrassed to be an Apple user/enthusiast. What's next? Apple fanboys taking a pilgrimage to Dell and blowing up their head quarters in the name of Steve Jobs? I like apple products, and OSX, and prefer most of their products over others, but some of you are taking this to too much of an extreme. The Palm phones are very good phones, and I don't see anything wrong with this Dell product. Yet people S*** on them because they don't have an 
on them. Someone keeps saying how the competitor's smart phone GUI clunky and cumbersome. I could say that's true for some blackberries, but have you ever seen or used Web OS (palm's OS for the Pre)? That looks very good, along with Android. It's almost as if you shut your eyes, cover your ears, scream loudly saying "lalala can't hear you, all other competition sucks because Apple is competing here/may compete here". Yes, I think Apple does many things very well, but that doesn't mean everyone else doesn't have a clue.
There has to be a balance too, because there are also people here that are critical of Apple, for the sake of doing so. Lines such as "it's going to be a great product, too bad it's an Apple". If you think so, then why are you on a forum dedicated to Apple and their products? There are many users here that only have bad/negative things to say about Apple. You obviously don't like Apple and their products, so why are you here???
I like apple products, and OSX, and prefer most of their products over others, but some of you are taking this to too much of an extreme. The Palm phones are very good phones, and I don't see anything wrong with this Dell product. Yet people S*** on them because they don't have an on them. Someone keeps saying how the competitor's smart phone GUI clunky and cumbersome. I could say that's true for some blackberries, but have you ever seen or used Web OS (palm's OS for the Pre)? That looks very good, along with Android. It's almost as if you shut your eyes, cover your ears, scream loudly saying "lalala can't hear you, all other competition sucks because Apple is competing here/may compete here". Yes, I think Apple does many things very well, but that doesn't mean everyone else doesn't have a clue.There has to be a balance too, because there are also people here that are critical of Apple, for the sake of doing so. Lines such as "it's going to be a great product, too bad it's an Apple". If you think so, then why are you on a forum dedicated to Apple and their products? There are many users here that only have bad/negative things to say about Apple. You obviously don't like Apple and their products, so why are you here???
Agreed - single tasking is a huge disadvantage for the iPhone OS. I was using an iPhone and once I switched to the Pre after it was stolen - there is no going back. I hate to use the iPod touch I have - the idea of requiring to quit one program to use another is totally absurd. On the Pre I can just pause a video into a card, answer IM messages, look up google in another card and go back and resume the video playback.
Then I don't need a Mac or specialized knowledge of obscure programming language to build apps for the Pre - its standard HTML/CSS/JS. I can develop for the Pre on any platform of my choice - Linux, Win, Mac.
Now to be fair, Palm still needs to make webOS snappier, allow programs to take advantage of the GPU and provide a device that has better battery life than the Pre. But I am sure they will get there. Once they do and they have devices on all major carriers I expect they will do pretty good if not as good as Apple is doing at the moment.
Given the webOS is made of basically pretty standard Linux and other OSS components - if Palm and Google can use each other's advancements through OSS - that would close the gap with iPhone OS a whole lot faster.
Just because we don't have the specs or the price or a release date doesn't mean the product is pathetic. That'd be like saying the next generation iPhone or the upcoming tablet from apple is pathetic because we don't have specs, a price or a release date now. Just because you see a teaser movie trailer doesn't mean the movie is going to suck. God, some people just have terrible logic.
Dell today also showed off its prototype 5-inch slate, an Android-based device offering a 5-megapixel camera and an apparent SIM card slot. Dell representatives have refused, however, to offer additional information on the device to this point.
Article Link: CES: Palm Pre Plus and Pixi Plus, Dell 5-Inch Tablet Prototype
It only has a 5-inch screen and it has a SIM card slot? I believe that's called a "phone" and not a "slate." It just seems that way. If it looks like a phone, acts like a phone, and talks like a phone, then it's a phone.
And if it lacks the ability to ad a voice plan, and is without a microphone and speaker; is it still a phone?
SIM card for 3G data.
No Apple tablet announced yet
Actually if Apple does announce a tablet computer they are the ones that would be copying others. Apple keeps saying that they are not building a tablet. So will Apple also jump on the band waagon?
Actually if Apple does announce a tablet computer they are the ones that would be copying others. Apple keeps saying that they are not building a tablet. So will Apple also jump on the band waagon?
Agree. I played with a Pre in a Sprint store the other day.. The hardware is terrible. The screen is way too tiny for its resolution. The keyboard is too small. There is no support for soft keyboard, so you have to pop out a hard keyboard to type any little thing, even an URL. Just an overall bad user experience.
The actual OS shows promise, but they need to add support for soft keyboard and come up with a decent hardware device for it to run on. Otherwise, they are doomed.
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Because Apple hasn't announced anything about a table for years. Articles have to be written for people to comment on. CES is about a lot things that do not apply to any Apple product. Mac people use a lot of non-Apple products. And those extra products include smart phones, tablet, net books,3D TV & many other products.
Remember that everything about an Apple tablet has just been a rumor for years. Many people want to hear about items that are actually happening. I know that I do.
Because Apple hasn't announced anything about a table for years. Articles have to be written for people to comment on. CES is about a lot things that do not apply to any Apple product. Mac people use a lot of non-Apple products. And those extra products include smart phones, tablet, net books,3D TV & many other products.
Remember that everything about an Apple tablet has just been a rumor for years. Many people want to hear about items that are actually happening. I know that I do.
No kidding. There have been dozens and dozens of models of tablets and slates made over the past decade or two. I've used several in enterprise apps, and used to specify custom versions.
Here's a popular list of tablets and slates, which goes back to 2001.
For example, this entry from 2003: "The Itronix GoBook is a rugged slate-style tablet computer based on Microsoft's Windows XP Tablet edition software platform. "
It sounds like the Apple one might be designed to run and sell iPhone apps in a larger screen format. In other words, it was created by the App Store.
A bunch of devices that don't look much different from the original iPhone except for more black and more curve. Whoopty doo, Basil!
Really none of those photos matter because a shiny phone with a crappy OS is just an expensive paperweight. This especially goes for the tablet devices since I'm pretty sure they will all use operating systems we haven't seen before.
Really none of those photos matter because a shiny phone with a crappy OS is just an expensive paperweight. This especially goes for the tablet devices since I'm pretty sure they will all use operating systems we haven't seen before.
I certainly prefer a 5" screen to a 3.x" one! To me there's no contest!
I do hope for both the next-generation iPhone and Palm Pre Plus' successor to have a screen of about that size!
Good news for Palm, by the way, whose WebOS singularly matches iPhone's in its sophistication! Very well done, Mr. Rubinstein!
By the way, did anyone notice the great similarity between the Palm CES 2010 presentation and any of the Apple-held Special Events, MacWorld Expos, etc.? The keynote structure, the speeches, the font of the screen - all conveyed the same air as a typical Apple Event! I believe, the most distinguishing basic quality of the resurrected Palm is in Jon Rubinstein's instillment of Apple culture into the company. I don't see the new Palm as copycats at all! Besides, their products (especially WebOS, but to marginally lesser measure - 2009 and 2010 headsets, too) are so well made that none of the monickers we use to describe iPhone's so-called "competition" suits it. To an extent, I'd say, Palm has become the Apple of the late '90-ies and early years of this millennium.
Lastly, I find the Dell mini-tablet shockingly beautiful for a Dell! Almost as beautiful as the iPhone! However, I do expect a fair amount of imitation of the iPhone's or iSlate's software but hardly anything quite as good!
If the "crappy OS" statement is intended for WebOS, then let me disagree: look at WebOS screenshots - and tell me how on earth the WebOS is ugly!
Of course, if you're talking of Dell's operating system (Windows Mobile, I believe?), then I certainly agree: it is mediocre!
Palm WebOS is actually nice. I switched long enough to realize though that it wasn't quite on par with my iPhone experience. Luckily, I was within the 30 day return policy and switched back.
I believe though that they have something great on their hands and that they need to polish it up. Copy and Paste for instance is terrible to use on the Pre, at least for me it was. I know, I know, iPhone didn't have it for years, but it does now. And I believe the key is that even though Apple doesn't include everything right away, it generally blows everything else out of the water with ease of use with what it does have. And although I would love to have multitasking with multiple apps now and then, it hasn't broken me enough to stay with any competitors.
My personal prediction is that Android, iPhone, and Palm OS are the three mainstays of the future. I hope to God that they will challenge each other because it can only get better. Unfortunately, I think Microsoft has lost its edge in the smartphone dept. That's not fanboy talk, just an honest opinion.
I believe though that they have something great on their hands and that they need to polish it up. Copy and Paste for instance is terrible to use on the Pre, at least for me it was. I know, I know, iPhone didn't have it for years, but it does now. And I believe the key is that even though Apple doesn't include everything right away, it generally blows everything else out of the water with ease of use with what it does have. And although I would love to have multitasking with multiple apps now and then, it hasn't broken me enough to stay with any competitors.
My personal prediction is that Android, iPhone, and Palm OS are the three mainstays of the future. I hope to God that they will challenge each other because it can only get better. Unfortunately, I think Microsoft has lost its edge in the smartphone dept. That's not fanboy talk, just an honest opinion.
iphone user here who will upgrade his 3g to whatever apple launches in the summer.
But, I want to say that I think webOS is beautiful from both a form and function perspective.
But, I want to say that I think webOS is beautiful from both a form and function perspective.
WebOS is very nice, and gets better all the time. I just wish the devices had larger screens.
Dell's using Android, I believe.
As for WinMo, check out the latest HTCs. I've got an Imagio with 6.5 and some TF3D UI mods from the XDA guys, and it's gorgeous. No need to see the old WinMo screens at all. Huge screen, high resolution, as touch sensitive as my iPod touch, great sound. Very finger friendly. Great phone, and an astonishing difference from even last year's WM devices. I didn't expect it.
I'm looking at its shocking beauty on my iPod touch and it looks... shockingly familiar!
So we can see how superior our products are versus the "competition" - if you can even call it that.