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Im sure they’ll sell more of these less ambitious headsets but it will only lower the ceiling on their platform as a whole thus impoverishing the high end model in the process.
 
Well, they have about 18 months to come up with a killer app for this tech demo. So far there is very little reason to buy one. I have zero interest in buying another Apple product with a training wheels locked down OS.
 
We developed a cheaper Vision Pro because of the feedback we received for the first model.

We are so happy to announce Vision SE… coming fall 2025. Priced at 499

Only compatible with iPhone 16 Pro Max Ultra and Mac Pro. Priced at 2000 and 5000? 🤔
 
I dont know. I appreciate the lower price but as someone that has flown FPV for a while having your phone connected to your headset is aggravating. Battery pack, sure, but that can be attached to the headband. Having to connect your phone each time with the cable hanging is not great. I could maybe see myself trying the headset at a lower cost and would live with it but it's not an exciting choice.
 
Well, they have about 18 months to come up with a killer app for this tech demo. So far there is very little reason to buy one. I have zero interest in buying another Apple product with a training wheels locked down OS.
Apple is never going to do it unless legally compelled to do so. There are profits in their commitment to security.
 
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This certainly helps but their greatest challenge still is coming up with compelling use cases.

Perhaps a really cheaper price will compel people to use it as a giant screen.
My parents recently redid the paint and furniture in their family room, and it would've been very handy to be able to visualize everything. That Lowe's thing is one of the only compelling things I've seen.
 
No one is going to wear these things outside of their home (You look like a massive t***)And even inside, not many people will be able to afford 2-5 sets so people in the family can experience the technology together.

so it’s a very isolated, expensive experience and the masses probably won’t adapt it.

i feel apple should have went down the AR glasses route first. You are already getting smaller companies making them so compact they look like normal sunglasses and the masses who be far more likely to adapt to such tech.
 
We shall see closer to the date it comes out. We can expect to get updates about the AVP every couple of months with dates shift from end of 2025, to mid 2026, to end of 2026 and so on. Lol.
 
My parents recently redid the paint and furniture in their family room, and it would've been very handy to be able to visualize everything. That Lowe's thing is one of the only compelling things I've seen.
You could do almost the same in usefulness with a iPhone app by moving it around pointing the camera and looking at the result in the screen.
Of course not the same but you don't redo decorations every month or year.
 
Tethered. A word you will never ever see in any Apple ad. Ever.

It’s currently tethered to a battery pack.

To me this makes a lot of sense. A lot of use for Vision Pro seems to be to extend your Mac display, so why not plug it into the Mac. You keep all the processing, heat etc in the Mac and the headset is as light as possible and of course cheaper. There’s a lot of merit in this approach.
 
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Folks don’t understand how Apple operates here.

Same as for HomePod, Apple went to the top of market and tested feature, function, pricing, and related demand elasticity.

Then they brought an entry model and a decontented top level model to try and capture two non overlapping market sweet spots.

Same here.

The Vision Pro of today can’t grab the volume market but it was necessary to show Apple has new category product and to draw interest from developers (without apps no device reaches it’s potential).

So we will see a vision volume and possibly a decontented pro even as we see incremental improvements to the concept.
 
- Remove expensive CNC machined aluminium and use plastic.
- Remove the external display and glass front.
- Remove battery and storage case from the box.
- Remove M1 chip and let the iPhone handle all the compute power needed.
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Vision for less than 1000$
If this makes it an affordable price for me to watch IMAX movies at home then I am all for it
 
Why would Apple abandon the Pro market? Even if they sell less Vision Pro than Mac Pros, it is still beneficial to have that premium device out in the field and feed it with OS updates. This will benefit any lower-cost product they'll release in that segment some time in the future.
 
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I'm a Vision Pro user and it's extremely clear, if you use it, that in the very distant future the product has the potential to consolidate and replace the iPhone, iPad and Mac into one device and be far more useful and immersive.

The main issue is the pace of technological progress. It might take 20-30 years before reasonable AR glasses deliver this experience. There has to be some serious breakthroughs in all areas of the device. The cost factor and adoptability also adds another layer of difficulty.

Still unsure if it's too ambitious of a product on the long-run, but we will see. Vision Pro is still the most advanced consumer electronics device out there, and I'm excited for future versions.
 
The problem with tethering a Vision Pro to an iPhone, is that iPhones don't have CPUs that are as powerful as the M2 in the Vision Pro. So it would be a downgrade in performance. The Vision Pro's advantage over other headsets is that you can walk around the house and outside while using it. That's augmented reality. Tethering it to a laptop or desktop loses that functionality. If they can get more power efficient chips, like the M4, their might be less heat to dissipate, and then they could drop some of the heavy aluminum.

And I don't think anyone sees that front display as being useful.
 
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I'm a Vision Pro user and it's extremely clear, if you use it, that in the very distant future the product has the potential to consolidate and replace the iPhone, iPad and Mac into one device and be far more useful and immersive.

The main issue is the pace of technological progress. It might take 20-30 years before reasonable AR /VR glasses deliver this experience. There has to be some serious breakthroughs in all areas of the device. The cost factor also adds another layer of difficulty.

Still unsure if it's too ambitious of a product on the long-run, but we will see. Vision Pr is still the most advanced consumer electronics device out there, and I'm excited on future versions.
See but that’s my concern right there is that this product was first viewed as something that was gonna usher in a new era of computing, but it might just fizzle out until we get something truly advanced and groundbreaking 10 to 20 years from now. I got to try it out and I liked it a lot but even I wouldn’t pay $4000 for it. And if only solution is to come out with a cheaper product, that’s extremely water down in a couple years That’s not a good sign. They should be fixing the complaints that people have for the product right now not watering it down and making it worse, just to come out with a cheaper product. Like the field of you was a complaint with the Vision Pro but they’re gonna make the field of you even worse with the cheaper version? Great so we get full on binoculars.

If some time traveler from 20 years from now told me that the Apple Vision Pro remains niche and it never really gained any traction. I wouldn’t be shocked.
 
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