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The way I see it is Apple has no reason to serve the masses with an ip5 at this moment. I know most people think that Apple is an innovator and cutting edge supplier of technology…all of which is true. However their primary focus is to run a profitable corporation and return value to the shareholders who invest. The simple fact is that this game has come down to Android vs iOS…and there isn’t really anything out there that is driving a need for new phone hardware that couldn’t wait another 9-12 months. Strangely it seems like RIM’s mishandling of getting BB7 to market has provided an additional window to keep the ip4 viable *as is* (w/a spec bump) without risking market share. Most of you aren’t going to leave the Apple eco system…your disappointment notwithstanding. Plus, a 2012 ip5 will come conveniently in time to take the wind out of any new QNX BB’s…

Absolutely correct, and this is why Apple makes the big bucks and why the LTE iPhone will come out with NFC just in time to take some wind out of WP8. If anybody wants to leave for Android, Tuesday would be the time to do it.

BTW. My prediction is that Android as an OS platform has peaked, thank you very much Google for ignoring IP, thank you very much Amazon for the fork and the ecosystem, and thank you very, very much Moto for creating the uncertainty that will have OEM's looking for other baskets to put their eggs in.

Badly played Google.
Very badly played.
 
Quite a leak, this kills all the hopes for a new iPhone

Quite the contrary, I think this supports the making a new iPhone even more.
iPhone 4s will replace iPhone 3gs and the iPhone 5 will replace the iPhone 4. I'm guessing there will be about 3 big differences...

1. Form Factor. iPhone 5 will have new form factor similar to the new cases coming out.
2. 4g capability. I believe both iPhone 4s and 5 will have 4g. The reason for the s will be the speed boost in terms of internet speed. I can't see the iPhone 4s not having 4g because the iPhone 4 is already fast enough and so an improved processor like the 3g to 3gs doesn't seem to be warranted here. The 4s would be an upgrade for people still wanting the 4 form factor with the speed of 4g.
3. I believe the release of the 4s really sets the stage for the iPhone 5 to blow people away. It will have to have significant improvements over the iPhone 4. In my opinion the iPhone 5 will probably be the first phone to feature 1440x960 resolution or some iteration of that. It will be something to completely blow away the competition.

Considering the lack of news out of China, Apple has the iPhone 5 under wraps. The Foxcon plant in Brazil is relatively new and from what I have read, it makes sense that they would use it to build the iPhone 4s while using the main plant in China to build the iPhone 5. Get ready everyone, Tuesday is going to be one hell of an event.

*Edit, Hasn't there also been news out of China that there have been delays trying to get the production of the new iPhone to meet specs. I'm guessing there wouldn't be such issues if the only thing being made was an iPhone 4s. It has to do with a revamped higher resolution display, faster processor and smaller form factor.
 
I don't get whats with all these people acting like "Apple needs to release the iPhone 5 or they're stupid".

They've done it with the 3GS I don't see why they can't do it again. Perhaps this is their new update cycle, 1st year a major release, 2nd year a minor release, 3rd a major, etc etc.

Apple doesn't cater to techies like the users that visit this site, they cater to the general population and the general population would likely still eat up a iPhone 4S with hardware updates.
 
This thread is hysterical... so many people talking soooo much sh*te and shouting down every reasonable post the grown-ups make....

4 goes to 4S right! Existing 4 get's it's ass ripped out and goes CHEAP, right! They probably fix the antenna snafu at the same time.

Well that's my theory anyway, but it's all conjecture at this point and all this conspiracy crap must have Uncle Steve rolling on the floor laughing in his Billion$ mansion...

Why no major update, just an 'S' after 16 months...? Well there could be the minor points that the 3GS was a storming success so why not do that again AND of course, Apple has been busting it's ass bringing us iOS5 and Cloud - probably the biggest step forward in mobile devices in recent history...

Get over it FFS and enjoy the 4S or piss off to Android and stop whining.

I for one will be grinning like the Cheshire cat when I replace my faithful old 3G with whatever fine product it is they bring us next.

Flame away, I don't give a rats ass, the products are superb FULL STOP.
 
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Pwahahaha, you go ahead and short that stock. You'll lose your ass!

I disagree (but hope I’m wrong). What with all these rumors of teardrop iPhones coming out, as well as new Androids being released seemingly daily, the public is most certainly expecting a new iPhone design and their disappointment will be reflected by a drop in stock price. Of course, this would be temporary, but registered nonetheless.

Everything you said above is crap, has been said before, and never happens. If the next iPhone is only a spec bumped 4S, the public will still eat it up and there will be lines outside Apple stores as usual. Now if they did it a 3rd year in a row, I'd begin to worry.

You seem to be confusing me with an Apple-hater. Again, I disagree. It will sell – I have no doubt about that – but momentum cannot be sustained for another full year while Apple decides to get its ****** together and release an upgraded iPhone design. The current iPhone has been out for a long time now (by industry standards); there is absolutely no excuse for them not to put out something new and maintain their reputation as industry leaders.

Oh, and learn to count, it hasn't been 18 months.

Fair enough, my bad, 15-odd months.

I don't know about you, but I've had iPhone 4 since day one, and I think I speak for most of us here when we say we're ready for something different after 15-16 months.

I feel the same way, and based upon other replies to this board, others do as well.

The fans on this board are the hardcore. There is a bigger population of people than post here. Take a look out the window.


Precisely my point. The fans on this board are more likely to buy Apple products than anybody (myself included), and yet the disappointment on this very board is loud and clear. Imagine how those who do not love Apple as we do will feel? Likely they will go “meh” and Apple marketshare will slowly dwindle as people perceive their design as being “stale” and lose interest, whilst newer Android eye candy (icandy?) designs flood the market.

Abusive to customers? How badly did Apple batter you. Are you bleeding?

Irrelevant response. Stale product design in lightning-fast industry likely = loss of interest.

You are emblematic of what is wrong with America.

I’m genuinely interested to know why you would say that? Do you think people should hold a stock out of loyalty to the company, profits be damned? Do you own Apple stock? Again, I’m curious to know from whence this interpretation comes. I don't see why we can't have a rational discussion about things without devolving into a flame war.

All of the above said, however, you would have to pry my iPhone 4 out of my cold, dead hands. I love Apple products and sincerely hope this rumor is incorrect, that they stay on top and continue to “wow” everybody with amazing new products and designs.
 
Even if the iPhone 4s is only a 4g speed boost and an A5 processor, I wouldn't complain at all. I would be happy to get that heh.
 
The only thing that keeps making me think there will be a redesign is the antenna issues that were reported for the early iPhone 4's. However, am I right in thinking that the CDMA phones have a redesigned antenna which is reported to have less issues?
 

The fans on this board are the hardcore. There is a bigger population of people than post here. Take a look out the window.


Precisely my point. The fans on this board are more likely to buy Apple products than anybody (myself included), and yet the disappointment on this very board is loud and clear. Imagine how those who do not love Apple as we do will feel? Likely they will go “meh” and Apple marketshare will slowly dwindle as people perceive their design as being “stale” and lose interest, whilst newer Android eye candy (icandy?) designs flood the market.
You have no point. The fans on this board are not enough to give Apple the obscene profits they make quarter after quarter.

Abusive to customers? How badly did Apple batter you. Are you bleeding?
Irrelevant response. Stale product design in lightning-fast industry likely = loss of interest.
Your whole rant is pretty much "irrelevant".
I’m genuinely interested to know why you would say that? Do you think people should hold a stock out of loyalty to the company, profits be damned? Do you own Apple stock? Again, I’m curious to know from whence this interpretation comes. I don't see why we can't have a rational discussion about things without devolving into a flame war.

All of the above said, however, you would have to pry my iPhone 4 out of my cold, dead hands. I love Apple products and sincerely hope this rumor is incorrect, that they stay on top and continue to “wow” everybody with amazing new products and designs.
The answer to your conundrum lies in your own words, highlighted above in red.
 
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I originally thought the extra 3 month wait meant a new redesigned iphone 5. Now I understand the wait is actually for iOS 5 to be ready.
We can all relax now.
 
Today has provided the most 'bleak' news about a possible iphone 5 being announced Tuesday. It ain't happening guys :(

I'm a bit surprised by the 4S name. Since it's an A5 running iOS5, why not just call the "4S" the "iPhone 5" even if it looks the same on the outside? The faster processor, the new Assistant feature, and the better camera are all worthwhile upgrades. That said, I wouldn't mind seeing a thinner iPhone 5 model, but perhaps they will wait for LTE for that.
 
If it's not broken don't fix it....

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JUST IN: iPhone 6 will be able to wipe your ass and meet your every demand :p
 
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I agree, calling it the 4s just seems odd. I'd have thought whatever it was should be called the 5. mainly for the os, not so much the processor.
 
Rather than read 561 posts. I see people that think this means no iPhone 5. Doesn't it only confirm an iPhone 4S?

In other words, iPhone 4S = $99 ... iPhone 5 = $199-$299.
 
Take this with a grain of salt... Yes, I'm gonna be one of "those" people.

I just got back from my local Verizon store. The owner told me that the iPhone 5 will in fact have a larger screen than the iP4 and a better camera (duh). He also said Verizon stores are not slated to receive any white iPhones until later in the year. He hinted that they will begin receiving iPhone shipments in mid-October.

And no, I am not trolling.
 
I just got back from my local Verizon store. The owner told me that the iPhone 5 will in fact have a larger screen than the iP4 and a better camera (duh). He also said Verizon stores are not slated to receive any white iPhones until later in the year. He hinted that they will begin receiving iPhone shipments in mid-October.

Did you bother asking him how he knew? I bet he gets his info from rumor sites. :p
 
I just got back from my local Verizon store. The owner told me that the iPhone 5 will in fact have a larger screen than the iP4 and a better camera (duh). He also said Verizon stores are not slated to receive any white iPhones until later in the year. He hinted that they will begin receiving iPhone shipments in mid-October.

And no, I am not trolling.

haha, well since the guy in the Verizon store said so it MUST be true! (sarcasm)
 
If it's not broken don't fix it....

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JUST IN: iPhone 6 will be able to wipe your ass and meet your every demand :p

"Not broken" is not good enough. Maybe it's not broken but it's quite behind many Android phones.
 
There's an earnings call scheduled only days after the keynote. Apple is likely to post more record profits. The stock is likely to soar, not drop.

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So you'll be buying a new display in addition to the iPhone 4S...

If they are likely to post more record profits, posting record profits will only have minor impact on stock price. You do know that right? Expectations are always accounted for in the stock market, else one would never be able to speculate.

As for tuesday, i'd say that a "mere 4S" will create a negative y-bis for now. Not necessarily because the product wont sell, but because there are always other "selling" investments to be made (and thus alternative costs to consider).

Then again, a "mere 4S" selling at an even higher margin would probably make people stick around a while longer :)

(and yeah, one should not underestimate the phychological effect either. Even if Apple could do well without Jobs, a dud will clearly increase the view that Apple without Jobs is not Apple anymore - and (right or wrong) thus not as good of an investment)
 
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