Rumors are also out there that Apple
1. is making a real tv set not just a box
2. is going to buy Tesla and release an Apple Car
3. is about to launch their own ISP AND cellphone service.
4. is working on smart glasses
among other items
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Cheaper watch next year?
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Rumors are also out there that Apple
1. is making a real tv set not just a box
2. is going to buy Tesla and release an Apple Car
3. is about to launch their own ISP AND cellphone service.
4. is working on smart glasses
among other items
Yes, but these are unreleased products.
The Apple Watch already exists and now will continue to evolve.
You are comparing apples (literally) to oranges
Give it up Charlituna. His rumours are better than your rumours!
...Could be. At least I don't go around berating people for "believing that nonsense" when I clearly said "rumored."
However, use common sense. For the watch to evolve Apple needs to do what already has been done by Samsung.
Do you agree there will be a second or third generation watch? I would think so.
Do you not think that Apple is going to have to compete and make the watch untethered?
It's common sense what Apple's next move will be. However, until it's actually done, I am happy to say that it is still "rumored."
And all of that done without insulting other members of this board.
I don't think Apple sees itself competing with Samsung when it comes to the Watch. I'm not saying there will never be a Watch with cellular capabilities, but I doubt it will be the next one. First, it drains lots of power and takes up too much space. Look how big the Gear S is. It's about twice as big as the 38mm Apple Watch. Second, it's another data plan or $10 monthly fee on a data share plan (to use the US as an example). Third, there isn't that much interest so far in using a watch to completely replace a phone.
For now I think the Watch will be an accessory of the phone. It may eventually become "independent" but not next year.
Nope I don't. Especially not if the reason is "samsung did it". Apple will do what Apple feels is the right move for Apple, regardless of what anyone else does. That's the way Steve did it and Tim has shown that that was one "WWSD" that he agrees with.
Frankly I think trying to make a Watch into a phone is a dumb move and would be a horrid experience. How it has been designed is perfect, make it an adjunct to the phone. My only beef is that it has to be a phone. Why not let someone do the same with an iPad. Or even both. I have some apps on my iPad that aren't on my phone. it would be awesome to be able to get alerts from both at the same time.
IF Apple ever makes a 'google glass' i'm totally okay with it just being a display with perhaps at some point a camera and bluetooth headset built in. Make it look something like the Sony one that is like a pair of sunglasses (not that horrid looking thing that google came up with). Limit the camera to non recordable functions like reading and translating signs and such if they like. Point is, I don't need it to be able to make calls etc on its own.
I don't see a need for Apple to do as others do in the name of 'competing'. Sometimes the better way to service that notion is to not do what everyone else is. Make yourself stand out by being different.
What's so different about a wearable? Macs are refreshed every year but people only replace theirs every 5-10 years.
I don't think Apple sees itself competing with Samsung period. it's a totally different ecosystem, totally different OS. the folks that run off and buy a Samsung over the screen size when they would actually rather have an iPhone is probably very very small. Apple did a larger phone because it was a logical decision. And yet made two sizes because they knew not everyone is so hung up on size. Even if they hadn't made the Plus, they would likely still have gotten a lot of sales because the size isn't that huge of an issue for most folks.
Samsung has been putting real USB ports and SD cards in their phones and tablets for ages. Apple could have copied those 'to compete' and hasn't. Samsung made a stylus and Apple has the research to do the same but hasn't. Should they have done it 'to compete'. I'm sure Apple could work out a deal to put a wacom or similar screen at least in the iPad and likely could have ages ago, just like Samsung et al, and haven't. But that's 'needed' again 'to compete'
or is it
It remains to be seen but we're in the very beginning of the product category, kind of like iPod was.
So I suspect that we'll see huge changes in form factors and sensor technologies being incorporated in a few years.
In addition, since this device is meant to be seen (it's on your wrist), I think that it might go out of style more quickly than a phone might.
Don't think so. It is a different type of product then a phone. Never saw Rolex dropping prices.
Cheaper watch next year?
They get refreshed to keep up with current hardware, and when they get refreshed it's not a massive deal unless its a huge change in form factor and even that took about 5 years. Otherwise it just happens passively on their website. They will want to make a big deal about 'Apple Watch 2' I'm sure.
They get refreshed to keep up with current hardware, and when they get refreshed it's not a massive deal unless its a huge change in form factor and even that took about 5 years. Otherwise it just happens passively on their website. They will want to make a big deal about 'Apple Watch 2' I'm sure.
Apple doesn't compete feature for feature, but they definitely see Samsung as a competitor in terms of the phone. They sued them for copying them, though some of that may have been Steve Jobs' personal vendetta.
I agree that with the Watch, Apple seems to be viewing this as a brand new and wide open market there for the taking, rather than a market where they are competing with Samsung, Lenovo/Moto, or LG.
In any case, Samsung's back in "photocopier" mode with the Galaxy S6, and it will probably be another hit from them. While unrepentant fanboy sights like Sammobile will hem and haw about how Samsung had watch phones back in 2009 and "smartwatches" as early as 1999 (and of course the Galaxy Gear), my guess is that the folks in Suwon are closely monitoring the Apple Watch, strident comments from their execs about how Apple is "following" them into the market notwithstanding. The rumor is that Samsung has been working on a round watch with a rotating bezel, and may be partnering with a watch maker or luxury brand. That may be true, or it may be vaporware of the likes of every Apple product is worse than some forthcoming Microsoft product (as Macalope likes to point out).
It's likely that Apple accepted more pre-orders in one weekend than Samsung has sold watches to date. Actual "sales" will be tricky since they'll only be counted when they are actually received by customers over the course of the next 2-3 months. I expect we'll see every "smart watch" manufacturer, whether a tech company, or a traditional watch maker, release a smaller watch geared toward women, while before Apple the trend was toward bigger devices.
Interestingly, there still is a fascination in the Android Wear world with round watches, with Huawei entering the scene, but if Apple shows it's possible to pay homage to the mechanical watch without aping its design, then we may see more rectangular designs come back, as well.
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Bands will change, and styles will come and go. I don't think the basic shape of the watch body will change much, though we'll see tweaks just as we do with phones.
I don't see Apple releasing an "Apple Watch 2" and dropping the price of the "Apple Watch 1" like they do with the iPhone. I think they'll be more likely to make on-the-fly enhancements like they do with the Mac line. They don't sell the 2013 Retina MacBook Pro for $200 less than the new one. I think they realize people will want to keep watches for a few years before replacing them.
If the battery of the apple watch is 18 hours with pretty light use how long do you think the apple watch will last with a cell antenna? That leaves me to believe that this rumor is 1) made up 2) not going to happen 3) until apple figures out the battery problem 4) which might take a few years
Samsung has been doing it for almost a year now with no huge battery drain.
In other words, it's already being done.
They'll make a big deal of whatever Apple Watch revision is about to lead to a massive increase in uptake. With the iPad that was iPad 2. With iPhone, it came in waves (iPhone 3G mostly because of the App Store, iPhone 4 mostly because of the Retina Display, and the biggest wave last year with the iPhone 6).
Cheaper watch next year?
This is a watch. A watch that costs up to £15000. Yes iMacs cost a lot too but typically people don't upgrade their watches every year. This is a piece of jewellery, not just a piece of technology.
I think those who are 'expecting' an apple watch 2 next year are just those who bought an apple sport just because it's a Gen one product and are feeling bitter that they might not be able to upgrade so soon to gen 2.
Don't bite my head off with your replies though, I could be wrong.
This is a watch. A watch that costs up to £15000. Yes iMacs cost a lot too but typically people don't upgrade their watches every year. This is a piece of jewellery, not just a piece of technology.
I think those who are 'expecting' an apple watch 2 next year are just those who bought an apple sport just because it's a Gen one product and are feeling bitter that they might not be able to upgrade so soon to gen 2.
Don't bite my head off with your replies though, I could be wrong.
Apple TV hasn't been refreshed for 3 years. The mac mini wasn't refreshed for 4 years i think? Look at the mac pro - how long did it take for that to get refreshed? Haswell-E with DDR4 has been out for awhile and yet the Mac Pro isn't refreshed for it.
That has zero to due with competition and everything to do with legality. Depending on the type IP protection at play and the country, if you don't protect your IP you are viewed as giving up on any rights to it. So the moment you suspect something foul you are required to speak up. You can't wait weeks, months, years and then cry foul.
It's a watch, but it's also a piece of technology. Others can rapidly copy the build quality, though they may face the same struggles Apple did with keeping the size down and the battery life acceptable. At the same time, I'm sure Apple has features they'd like to add and other improvements they'd like to make. I don't think they expect people to upgrade every year. For them, the "next generation" will be targeting people who don't have a Watch, just as the iPhone and iPad before it.
Mabey so, but it better be outta this world because no one will be paying a phone and watch plan. Unless it's the same cost
Battery Life
Up to 2 hours (GPS) / Up to 5 hours (Bluetooth) talk time
http://www.t-mobile.com/internet-devices/samsung-gear-s.html
Up to 2 hours (GPS) / Up to 5 hours (Bluetooth) talk time
http://www.t-mobile.com/internet-devices/samsung-gear-s.html
But they definitely targeted Samsung more forcefully than even Google for features in Android that they thought were infringing.