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I just want a music player that will list my music library so I can pick some music and listen to it. Does it do that? I do not, under any circumstances, want to know what is "trending". If Beats 1 is anything to go by, what is "trending" is none stop stream of.... @&£&
 
About the new Apple Music and other awfully big and bold fonts I can say just one more thing : UGLY!!!
I just cant understand why we have text size option if Apple's own apps doesnt support it!? Continuing this way, and I'm just one step closer to goin androd...
 
Yes, but they have removed the rating of songs feature. Too bad as this is how I make some of my smart playlists.

Is this really true?! If so that's terrible. I have thousands of songs with star ratings I've assigned over the years. I use the ratings extensively in smart playlists. I definitely don't want to lose that data.
This is really bad news. I can't seem to find any reasonable explaining for a move like this one. I think this is even beyond the possibilities of the higher I.Q.'s here on Macrumors.
This seems to be the new trend at Apple: remove features, see what happens and eventually reintroduce them later as brand new innovation
 
New Apple Music app design is good in one point:
HUGE fonts. Best for my eyes. But not that beautiful than previous iOS 9 version.
Too bad color background based on album is lost. But I don't see any possibility of adding it back based on such card-alike layout. Or, could user use "multiple cards" and listen to music from different album in a different way? I cannot imagine. Or even enable tab view? I believe I don't get it.
One flaw of this design is it promotes Apple Music too much. Even local music is considered as "Apple Music", although actually they are not. One example is: I don't think I need to "download" playlist stored locally. This is not Apple Music playlist. Another example is: local playlist have no way being "public". I don't think I need this feature. Oh, maybe playlist based on purchased songs can be shared?

Now imagine this:
Apple forces all users to subscribe Apple Music before using Music app, and cancel iTunes Store downloading completely, claiming "streaming is the future, and no one should be allowed to own music whatsoever". Sounds crazy right? This is what YouTube Music App does. Without a sub I cannot even see the interface of app! Perhaps there would be a lot of users suing Apple as well as labels forcing streaming. Anyway.

I really hope Apple can just introduce an alternative app for Apple Music, like many other members mentioned, and remain music app as an app to "just listen to music, nothing more". Apple hates implementing touch screen on desktop PC system, then why they put Apple Music and music app into a single music app? I don't get it.

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But they don't just update iOS once per year. They update it many times per year.

You bring a good point about it being on Android. It wouldn't be out of logic to be its own app, but think of the competitive advantage Apple Music has over competitors (eg Spotify, Tidal) by coming with the OS on your iPhone/iPad. Now why would Apple voluntarily do away with their biggest competitive advantage? Think man!

Why would it still not come installed out of the box? Not really sure how broadening their horizons would hurt them in the long run. And while yes, we do get some small bug fixes throughout the year, we don't really get any big changes that a service of that nature requires (especially in these early stages), which is why Spotify is currently at the top and will continue to be. The last 9.x iOS update was the only one in a long time that actually included some IU tweaks as well as a few features changes.
 
because Apple Music is part of the entire OS and not a separate app.
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Because it's such a significant change it needs to go through a beta period, hence why this is in beta.

Imagine if you just woke up and your music library was in a completely new User Interface due to auto-update. Also imagine it filled with new, unexpected bugs. Now imagine MacRumors going ape s**t.
you total missed the point
 
I hope someone here will correct me, but my understanding was that if you are using iTunes match, you have no way to listen to your cloud library except for the music app on an iPhone.

Please tell me I'm wrong. I love the convenience of match on my macs and love having my entire library available on my phone, but would like to find another music app that can stream from match. I don't use and won't use Apple Music.
 
I love music and I want to own it. I don't want it in the cloud. I want to listen to it, wherever I am, whenever I want to, in whichever mood I'm in with my playlists and metadata I have painstakingly added.

I don't want to be forced to a apple stream which does not support my very large music library, I do not want to browse through tabs with things I do not need. If Apple Music is switched off: give me control over my library, add buttons for those, who wish to play with their music.

I want to use the metadata I have added and collected (composers, etc.)

I dream of having the correct lyrics displayed to my music, but that will be a dream as the music industry doesn't get that music lovers are very happy about stuff like that, but no - lyrics are the holy grail and Apple will probably pay for displaying lyrics in the Apple Music streams.

Hey, Apple! Help the music lover not only with cover albums but also with lyrics. That will strengthen iTunes position which is weak already.

I want to rate my music, and not miss hitting the right buttons, because the layout was never tested on an iPhone SE (e.g. rating, loudness, sometimes with the added problematic of having additional information from navigational programs at the top).

I want to rate my music on my Apple Watch and not deal with siri, which in 9 out of times misses. I want to use Siri with english texts, when in German. If I want to play my "hottest" playlist, I don't want to play "hat es" songs. Yes, languages do use English words, even if they have their own words for it. Surprise.

How about adding classical view: Bach, Beethoven or Mozart as composers - when seen in a playlist. For that matter, I don't mind seeing Dianne Warren either. :)

Oh Apple, you used to be music fanatics. But you're so all-over-the-place, it's hard for you to focus.
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This is really bad news. I can't seem to find any reasonable explaining for a move like this one. I think this is even beyond the possibilities of the higher I.Q.'s here on Macrumors.
This seems to be the new trend at Apple: remove features, see what happens and eventually reintroduce them later as brand new innovation

Are you sure? They moved it in the last version from tapping the song name to tapping the cover (and then you can rate.)
 
Not sure if it was asked or answered. Can anyone tell me if they have allowed us to sort albums by ascending chronological order? OR does anyone know how i can choose an artist, start playing on say album 3 from 1974 and then play album 4 from 1976 then album 5 from 1978 and so on? For years this is how everything worked. Now i cannot get it to function this way at all. Someone please help.
 
Not sure if it was asked or answered. Can anyone tell me if they have allowed us to sort albums by ascending chronological order? OR does anyone know how i can choose an artist, start playing on say album 3 from 1974 and then play album 4 from 1976 then album 5 from 1978 and so on? For years this is how everything worked. Now i cannot get it to function this way at all. Someone please help.

This was also a frustration for me. Who in their right mind would want to listen to an artist starting with the newest album and moving progressively back in time?

I know those of us who listen to entire albums much less an entire artist's works are in the minority compared to the "radio-like, song-only" crowd, but I can't imagine anyone who listens to music how Apple has it set up.
 
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fussy audience,...I quite liked the Zune, the OLED screen (way back in 2009) and look of the music menu design was really nice.
If this new design came coupled with an overall IOS10 dark mode, could be nice too.
 
I second this question. If the user doesn't have a subscription, what does the app look like?
No one outside of Apple knows the answer to this yet. You can turn Apple Music off in Settings, but one of the bugs listed for this current beta release states that it doesn't remove the Apple Music menus in the music app. Hopefully that will get sorted out in the next release.
 
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Why would it still not come installed out of the box? Not really sure how broadening their horizons would hurt them in the long run.

Right now there's more downsides to upsides by removing iTunes from default OS, or removing Apple Music from iTunes. There's a list of benefits and a list of impediments that would result from either choice you make. It's not simple and I don't see the benefit in removing it right now. Again, it would be removing a competitive advantage.

And while yes, we do get some small bug fixes throughout the year, we don't really get any big changes that a service of that nature requires

VSCO just angered their entire loyal and obsessed user base by completely changing the UI in their latest update. Evernote did the same with Penultimate.

Apple made Apple Music bug fixes and improvement server side. They fixed an iBooks issue without me installing an OS update. Improvements can and are done.

which is why Spotify is currently at the top and will continue to be.

Apple Music has been around for a complete year and they are at 50% of Spotify, a first mover company that has been around longer, and in Europe before US/International markets. I don't see Spotify fighting off Apple solely due to update frequency. Spotify is losing money every quarter. Apple Music has a better business model. I love that Spotify exists but current cards layed out I don't find it necessary to criticise Apple since they seem to have answered to the many problems v1 had.
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you total missed the point
Ok, good talk.
 
Very disappointed with this release. I don't really care about fonts. I want functionality. I want control over my smart playlists. I want control over my meta data. And I want a better system for search others playlists. Also adding new music notifications and concert announcement notifications would be great. This did nothing to make Apple Music better. Why can't a company with so many resources put some effort into this. If they spent as much time on Apple Music as they did emojis we would have one rocking music app.

So many people bash the app.... but actually use it?

Why? Come on. Move on.... use something else if it is that bad.

I prefer Google Music over Apple. I can use it on any device, and my subscription gets me ad free YouTube and YouTube music for the same price. Can connect to it on my work computer. It doesn't truly solve the organization issues though.

Apple used to have music so right and then made it so wrong....
 
Keep telling yourself that. After going way too thin in iOS 8 Apple has been correcting itself. But keep telling yourself the small text with equally small targets are okay.
I will because I have no issue with the current font. Maybe you should see an eye doctor because if a colorblind nearsighted 20 year old and his dyslexic cousin can see it, then you're getting old.
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Whoever designed the last music App should be fired. It was design over functionality!

Under Tim Cook's watch they have released disaster after disaster!
Really because I lost functionality in this iOS 10 beta.
 
I will because I have no issue with the current font. Maybe you should see an eye doctor because if a colorblind nearsighted 20 year old and his dyslexic cousin can see it, then you're getting old.
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Really because I lost functionality in this iOS 10 beta.


Sorry, I should have been clear. I meant the last time music app. I haven't used the beta but it looks good :) I'll keep an open mind, as I was quite disappointed with the last one.

But I really didn't like the interface nor did I find it easy of use of the last music app overhaul. Just need something that works well, not something that doesn't work but is pretty. Which is my design over functionality comment.
 
Yes, but they have removed the rating of songs feature. Too bad as this is how I make some of my smart playlists.

Did they in ios10 or were you still an apple music apple update old? They recently changed to tapping on the music art for the star rating instead of the song info. It would be odd if they took that away as smartest with star ratings are a reason many (me included) switched to apple music.
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Is it just me or does this not seem like an improvement? Just seems like it's different but not better or worse (or maybe a little worse with all the huge titles).

Haven't used it. It doesn't look very pretty but the section layouts definitely seem more simple which means usability should be much better.
 
Better than Spotify in every area IMO with the exception of social which I'm sure will get addressed with a revamp of their Connect feature in the future.

There's been so little said about the total lack of social features (peer to peer anyway) in Apple Music. I want to see what my friends are listening to! I want to recommend something to them in-app. Etc etc etc. Do you guys think Apple will ever build these sort of functions out??
 
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