Association fees in downtown Chicago are be more than $700 / month in some condos.Chip NoVaMac said:
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Rod Rod said:
Sour grapes that lead to him making a cheap shot. I don't see any difference. Either way, the premise of his statement strikes me as being disingenuous and petulant.
Just sayin', either way, it seems like a silly statement for Trump to have made.
Rod Rod said:
i would imagine the running monthly cost in that tower will be in the thousands.
anyways, having a choice of a Calatrava unit I would opt for one of the upcoming NY townhouses
It's something like $0.50/sq.ft. to $0.70/sq.ft. in some buildings.. I'll get the exact figure from my friend who follows these things closely.wrc fan said:
I agree. He's a good person to get a quote from for the purpose of that story, for all those reasons.Xtremehkr said:
wrc fan said:
You are right on that! They better take and provide twice weekly maid service and do my laundry for that kind of money. And if they want an Xmas "bonus", they better be prepared to wipe my you know what!
Chip NoVaMac said:You are right on that! They better take and provide twice weekly maid service and do my laundry for that kind of money. And if they want an Xmas "bonus", they better be prepared to wipe my you know what!
hahaha! Good one!
Rod Rod said:
You are right. They are all wanting that big $ in the end. What ever doubt that Trump can cast on this new project can only help him. Never mind whether we are talking of 1000 foot tower or a 2000 foot tower - terrorists doing a 9-11 style attack can do as much "damage" regardless of 1000 foot or 2000 foot elevation.
I was speaking with the engineer signing off this Dubai project for the insurers and he had some pretty amazing facts and figures to do with its construction.Rod Rod said:
- The piles that make the foundation aren't that deep considering the height, about 30m IIRC
- The sructure is so strong laterally, having been design for high wind loading and having been designed to take two hits from the new Airbus A380, that it could hold its self horizontally if attached to a wall by the foundations.
- Just in case someone comes along and annouces their building a taller tower before it's finished the design allows for another 25% to be added to the top to trump them.
- Count out 15secs to yourself and try to recall as much about your life in that time. Seems like quite a long time doesn't it? I bet you had plenty of happy memories to take in. That's how much time you'd have before hitting th ground if you decided to take a dive from the top!
Someone asked who would've thought to included torsional stiffness in the design? Norman Foster did in his 'Erotic Gherkin' in London, although a much shorter building which leaks like a sieve because of the twisted windows I hear and no one to rent it cause of the round floors.
interesting stuff. i've seen the renditions and its pretty amazing.mpw said:
also another project by calatrava in malmoe, the "turning torso" already tested the concept. it's not finished yet, thoughmpw said:
Don't panic said:
Truly amazing stuff.
The only thing I add is that the WTC was designed to take the hit of a 747 IIRC. Though their assumption was that it would be a 747 on the end of its journey, rather than a "jumbo jet" nearly full with jet fuel. (The Bin Laden tapes soon after 9-11 expressed surprise, but pleasure, that the WTC collapsed).
It was a 707, and as you say, they considered its impact but not its fuel. Had the fuel been taken into consideration, perhaps the fireproofing could have been applied in a way that it would adhere to the metal supports better, and of course the walls around the stairwells could have been thicker than drywall.
Rod Rod said:
Sorry, I thought that the 747 was already envisioned at that point. Regardless, it shows that planners never thought that a jet taking off from Newark, JFK, or LaGuadia could pose harm to the WTC. And in some small way show us that we can never anticipate the the severity of the next "attack".
Maybe I am missing the emphasis, but Chicago already has the nation's tallest building in the Sears Tower.
Yup, and another issue is that in the late 60s / early 70s they didn't have the computer modeling to simulate what all the fuel and fire could do to the building's structure.Chip NoVaMac said:
Here's another high-rise going up right now on the lakefront.
One Museum Park
This one is at Roosevelt Road and Lake Shore Drive - right by the museums and Soldier Field. 2 bedrooms/2.5 baths start at $660,000 and penthouses start at $2.5 Million That said, I feel like my wife and I got a complete steal on the loft-style place (converted 1907 hospital) we got a few blocks away from this new building.
Downtown Chicago is getting pretty pricey to live in. My wife and I bought our condo in the South Loop last August and have seen our property value go up 25% since then - great for us - bad for people who want to live downtown cheaply. Our monthly assessments ($325) are cheap compared to most other buildings. I know people who are spending $600-750/month for their assessments alone - that doesn't even include their mortgage or county taxes.
When we were getting ready to buy we had to take a good hard look at the financial breakdown of renting vs. owning over 10-15 years. When renting we were paying less than 1/2 of what we're paying now but renting is like throwing your money away. You have to look at a condo/house as a big savings account cash you put in the lower your payment gets in time and the more cash you have in equity. You also get to write off all the mortgage interest on your federal taxes - which helps.
One Museum Park
This one is at Roosevelt Road and Lake Shore Drive - right by the museums and Soldier Field. 2 bedrooms/2.5 baths start at $660,000
and penthouses start at $2.5 Million That said, I feel like my wife and I got a complete steal on the loft-style place (converted 1907 hospital) we got a few blocks away from this new building.Downtown Chicago is getting pretty pricey to live in. My wife and I bought our condo in the South Loop last August and have seen our property value go up 25% since then - great for us - bad for people who want to live downtown cheaply. Our monthly assessments ($325) are cheap compared to most other buildings. I know people who are spending $600-750/month for their assessments alone - that doesn't even include their mortgage or county taxes.
When we were getting ready to buy we had to take a good hard look at the financial breakdown of renting vs. owning over 10-15 years. When renting we were paying less than 1/2 of what we're paying now but renting is like throwing your money away. You have to look at a condo/house as a big savings account cash you put in the lower your payment gets in time and the more cash you have in equity. You also get to write off all the mortgage interest on your federal taxes - which helps.
looks gorgeous to me. i wish they put a smaller version of that in astor place where gwathmey-siegel's "sculpture for living" is being put up. that building, sculpture for living, is the ugliest piece of **** building i have ever seen people wanting to live in.
you have to see it in real life to believe it, it doesn't look too bad on the website:
http://astorplacenyc.com/index_flash.html
you have to see it in real life to believe it, it doesn't look too bad on the website:
http://astorplacenyc.com/index_flash.html
SiliconAddict said:Dude why don't we get it over with and just start working on a space elevator?
Now that would be sweet...
The design is nice, but why does it have to be so big? Why not just make it 900 ft? That would still make it a tall, beautiful building, and be more feasable.
It doesn't always need to be a d**k waving contest.
It doesn't always need to be a d**k waving contest.
Abstract said:
I completely agree - but as for the "contest" issue, just look at the individuals who we're dealing with here... it should come as no surprise...