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China Expanding Government iPhone Ban
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The Dutch minister president is using a Swedish Sectra (https://communications.sectra.com/product/mobile-communication-up-to-secret/), apparently cannot be listened-in?
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Happily the USA can be trusted, as a good friend...
www.bbc.com
US bugged Merkel's phone from 2002 until 2013, report claims
The US has been spying on German Chancellor Angela Merkel's mobile phone since 2002, according to a report in Der Spiegel magazine.
www.bbc.com
Just off the top of my head, I remember this started it all (the backdoors found in Vodafone Italy software):
Vodafone Found Hidden Backdoors in Huawei Equipment
While the carrier says the issues found in 2011 and 2012 were resolved at the time, the revelation may further damage the reputation of a Chinese powerhouse.
www.bloomberg.com
There were others. My favourite was when Huawei sent the source code to GCHQ (that's UK's NSA equivalent), for review, they couldn't compile it to obtain the same binary that Huawei was providing to the mobile networks and Huawei had no explanation for this.
The West was right to ban Huawei. Don't buy a Chinese phone, you're supporting the Chinese Communist Party's war ambitions among other minor things like massive IP theft.
China earlier this week banned government officials from using iPhones and other foreign smartphones for work or from bringing such devices to their government offices, and now China is expanding the ban. According to Bloomberg, multiple state agencies and state companies have started telling workers not to bring their iPhones in to their jobs.
The restriction is expected to expand to additional government-controlled organizations in the future as China aims to block foreign technology. China does not yet have a formal injunction, so it is not yet known how many companies may adopt the iPhone restrictions. China has a huge number of state-owned enterprises in power generation, seaport construction, mining, manufacturing, education, and investment markets. Foreign devices have historically been discouraged in sensitive agencies, but China is now taking a firmer stance.
China is an important market for Apple, and the ban could push customers to purchase Chinese-made devices if they are unable to use their personal iPhones for much of the day. Bloomberg suggests that the strictness of the bans could vary from company to company, with some banning Apple products from the workplace and some preventing employees from using Apple devices entirely.
Apple stock has been dropping since yesterday, and it is down over 5 percent as of Thursday.
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If it gets "banned" it's going to sell like crazy in China!
Such bans often backfire.
Maybe be worried about what you are not even thinking about and has already been done
Ban it, and more people will desire it and more people will buy it because of the fear of the "ban"
you do know china makes up around 19-20% of apple's overall profit right? some can even say these couple mfr in china is the only reason why china hasn't made an example out of apple on a full scale yet, apple has way more to lose here by deteriorating relations with china than vice versa.
lol i highly doubt that, if anything china would force a entire ban like trump did with huawei under the gist of national security.
apple pays min wage for these iphone assembly plan while china accounts for 19-20% of apple's overall profit. you are literally risking billions in profit by threatening couple assembly plans that pays couple millions to low skill workers.
if you ban it there also goes apple's cloud and service integration, i would rather use an android that has a working app store and icloud than trying to get a banned iphone working with international services via vpn.
A related article about the Chinese ban, and the introduction of the new Hauwei Mate 60:
China is pulling every lever to kill Apple's iPhone 15
China is pulling every lever to kill Apple's iPhone 15
You Ban it - and everyone will want it more and buy more. They will flaunt it after work day is done.
This is great free advertising already. Stock should be going up because of this - it just takes a few days for wallstreet suits to figure it out
(Off topic - but AR-15 compatible gun “receivers” were very popular at gun shows in last few years - because of “ban” threats - right?)
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yeah thats not how it works with smartphones, this isn't get them while you can type of deal, you don't just buy the iphone for the hardware, but also the app store, icloud, etc. iphone isn't an iphone without its services. and if china bans iphone, these servers will go with it.
Without any evidence. US intelligence (all 17 agencies, no less) said Iraq had WMDs. They were lying.US intelligence said so
Sure, but that is not happening at all!
It’s specific to government employees and that’s it.
Please show me a link to anything supporting your FUD about banning services like iCloud please! This is not true what you say!
The referenced article says: "Now Vodafone Group Plc has acknowledged to Bloomberg that it found vulnerabilities going back years with equipment supplied by Shenzhen-based Huawei for the carrier’s Italian business." That’s not spying. Vulnerabilities are discovered in Apple products every month.Just off the top of my head, I remember this started it all (the backdoors found in Vodafone Italy software):
Vodafone Found Hidden Backdoors in Huawei Equipment
While the carrier says the issues found in 2011 and 2012 were resolved at the time, the revelation may further damage the reputation of a Chinese powerhouse.
There were others. My favourite was when Huawei sent the source code to GCHQ (that's UK's NSA equivalent), for review, they couldn't compile it to obtain the same binary that Huawei was providing to the mobile networks and Huawei had no explanation for this.
The West was right to ban Huawei. Don't buy a Chinese phone, you're supporting the Chinese Communist Party's war ambitions among other minor things like massive IP theft.
China isn’t doing that!
China is disallowing you to bring iPhone to work if you happen to be a government employee. Nothing more.
Those were backdoors, not mere vulnerabilities. It's not the only time they found Huawei with dodgy stuff.
If the CCP mandates a backdoor or data harvesting, all Chinese companies have to comply by law, and they cannot say anything about it.
The CCP is also gearing for war with the West.
I don’t think they are gearing for war.
I do think the idea of privacy in China has some differences as compared to USA though.
Anyone think we will go to war with China blah blah but we will continue to buy container ship loads of any and all merchandise manufactured in China and imported daily in USA? Think it through.
The moment I see posts that include the term “CCP” I know where your head is at - it’s funny stuff.
Test your worldview with a thought experiment would be what I’d say to those who throw around this “CCP” hate.
Look at the stock market reaction on aapl stock over this China fake news item. People can’t even discern what was actually stated. Don’t get trapped in your own bias - try to think
Hmm, you should look deeper into this issue. Japan tweeted something interesting about it this week.
i'm actually not so sure about that anymore and don't think that there's actually that much of a difference regarding actual privacy.
Even Europe, often (self) lauded as the defenders of human rights, seem surprisingly more and more eager to match the levels of mass surveillance and control of China or the US.
the biggest difference is that you, at least with our current governments *fingers crossed*, don't have to fear as strict consequences if you are saying something even remotely unflattering against our leaderships.
Ok. A link would be great.
But just because a country called Japan tweeted something doesn’t mean much.
Canada cbc is banned in Facebook meta and Twitter X because they have been outted and shown to be gov propaganda - gated institutional narratives with zero “journalism”.
So if you have a link - it’s fine I’ll certainly glance it at least. Can I play Sherlock Holmes and guess what they say? Haha.
I don’t really want to talk much geopolitics here, but you should look at the very least into the expansion of Chinese military capability over the past 10 years (spoiler - it's spectacular). And it's not like they're afraid of being attacked, let's put it that way.
Agreed - politics
And yah expansion. I have seen that stuff.
So this is why you think what you think - and I get that too. I probably interpret it differently.
You won’t find me saying that China is banning iCloud like some other guy was pushing and trying to warp the reader’s thoughts.
Carry on I guess. I just find it interesting that if I see a user post “CCP” I can make an accurate prediction.