Huh? You must be reading a different thread than the one I'm reading. In this thread, the people who prefer smaller phones have only been saying that they don't want a larger phone, that a larger phone is not for them. On the other hand, some of the people who prefer larger phones have been calling small phones "useless", etc. No one in this thread has claimed that there is no market for large phones, but plenty have claimed there is no market for small phones.
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China Mobile Roadmap Claims New 4-Inch iPhone Coming in April 2016
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Couple an Apple Watch with an iPhone 5S and configure Apple Pay. Leave the iPhone 5S at home and go shopping with the Apple Watch. Apple Pay works. Leave the Apple Watch at home and go shopping with the iPhone 5S. Apple Pay doesn't work. The only role of the iPhone 5S in using Apple Pay is to configure the Apple Watch.
The latter can't work without the former ....
Technically your are right, but the result is the same: an iPhone 5S owner using Apple Pay.
Please make us a Luxury 7C, and not a cheap phone. I don't understand why a 4 inches phone should be a cheap phone with sub performance.
Please A9 chip, 2 GB of ram, NFC for Apple Pay, huge battery (2 full day at least), good FaceTime camera, 32/64/128 size, and please not too thin ( the 5c was the most comfortable in hand)
And I agree to pay this beast the same price as the 6S , in a lot of things, smaller is more expensive.
Please A9 chip, 2 GB of ram, NFC for Apple Pay, huge battery (2 full day at least), good FaceTime camera, 32/64/128 size, and please not too thin ( the 5c was the most comfortable in hand)
And I agree to pay this beast the same price as the 6S , in a lot of things, smaller is more expensive.
cheap ? whatever they are going to sell, it won't be cheap
So, a huge battery and 2 days of charge in a 35% smaller phone (by volume...) yes. that's possible.... (sic)... When the 6s can't even do it. Maybe a pray will make this miracle happen.
Apple seems to somehow put a smaller capacity battery in the 6S yet maintain the same battery life as the 6, despite adding more power hungry features, like always listening Siri on battery. More efficient processors, omitting certain hardware on the smaller phone like a Taptic Engine, and 3D Touch, and maybe even removing the 3.5mm Jack to free up more space, as well as software optimized for better power utilization/conservation, and ultimately, the biggest power draw of any iOS device -- the display, which is going to be much smaller and require far less power than the 6S. And all that's before any improvements in battery tech. So yeah, it's not an impossible request.
Yes. ;-)
It's a possibility, but not knowing what exactly you meant by your terse response, I'd say it's more likely to come on the 7 to ensure the new 4" form factor will sell as widely as possible. That said, the new MacBook did something similar by offering a MacBook upgrade with only one port, and a USB-C, the only Apple product to have one until the TV. Apple could just as easily serve the ultra-portable phone market with a feature compromised device, arguably to a clientele that doesn't really use the headphone jack for anything more than making phone calls for which the free Apple earbuds with Lightning plugs will serve just fine, requiring an adapter for anything else -- just like the new MacBook. Only Apple knows what the current sales data reflects. Either way, they need the substantial space the 3.5mm Jack takes up if they're going to shrink the 6S into the 4"-sized case, and offer equitable battery life. So it remains a possibility, which has some precedence. The only reason they wouldn't is because it would signal things to come earlier than they want. On the other hand, it might also let People psychologically prepare for it, before their flagship product launches., in much the same way the MacBook has ... It's been 9 months since that product was released, yet I think we all know it's coming ... I personally ought it would be sooner. But in some ways it lets the market catch up with USB-C as a new Apple reality, before they employ the same strategy on the rest of their product line. The same could easily be true for the 4" mid-cycle iPhone. And that really forces the customers hand -- hold on to rapidly aging tech, upgrade to a larger iPhone, or get the latest in ultra-portable, with compromises that may not affect them, just like the new MacBook. It's not like the latest MacBook serves Apple's largest notebook market segment either.
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There is no way that Apple will give the iPhone 6C any feature (other than the highly desirable small size) not found in the iPhone 6S. That includes battery life. One should expect the iPhone 6C to have about the same (+/- 20%) battery life as the iPhone 6S.
Well that's a pretty confident claim, considering the 5C had better specs than the 5. So there's president that a phone released after the preceding model will have better specs. The "6c", as you call it, is being released after the 6S, so there is some possibility however small that it may have better specs.
Frankly I don't know how it can't have better battery life since the screen is the main reason batteries drain, and the "6c" will have significantly smaller screen. And it's not likely to have other power sipping features like 3D Touch and Taptic feedback due to cost and available room.
When the iPhone 5C was introduced, the flagship iPhone was the 5S. The 5C did not have better specs than the 5S.
The 6C will have a significantly smaller battery than the 6S, which will approximately balance the lower power consumption.
When the 5c was introduced it followed the previous flagship -- the 5, over 12 months later, and it had better specs. The "6c" as you call it follows the 6S, by over 7 months according to rumor, and therefore is most like the 5-to-5c relationship, not the 5c-to-5s as you suggest.
So I see no basis for your confident assertion that the "6c" in your scenario will be no more advanced that the 6s, when the 5c was more advanced than the 5 that came before it. Indeed the 5c did not have better specs than the 5s, just as the "6c" will not have better specs than the 7, which rumor has it may follow the "6c" by only 3-4 months later.
I don't have the engineering background to challenge your other assertion that the smaller battery in the "6c" will definitely "balance the lower power consumption". But since every iPhone has improved on the battery specs of the previous generation, including the 5c over the 5, I'd say the odds are in my favor that the "6c" being a 7-month more advanced product just might see some next generation improvements, especially if the iPhone 7 is really only 3 months behind it to market.
That is, unless I've got it completely wrong and Apple intends the "6c" to be nothing more than a budget, entry level handset -- which won't appease anyone. But I obviously don't think that's the plan.
Dwelling in the past, rather than the present, is convenient for your assertion, but it's not how people who plan successful products think about them. Apple must have thought about the iPhone 5C feature set relative to that of the 5S and they must now be thinking of the iPhone 6C feature set relative to that of the 6S, not the 6.
Unfortunately, all the rumors so far are than the iPhone 6C will be "nothing more than a budget, entry level handset". Even you seem not to believe it will have 3D Touch. I would be delighted if the iPhone 6C would have all of the features (other than size) of the iPhone 6S and cost exactly the same. I would buy one on the first day. However, I'm not expecting such a rich feature set. I'll be satisfied with Apple Pay support.
Exactly how I feel, and I expect millions of others. I will order on day one, hope there is a 128G option.
The 6 has a beautiful screen and is fast but Too. Big. For. My. Hand. Disappointed since day one.
Really, the 7 is going to launch 3 months after the "6c" and you think they are thinking in terms of the 6S? Your condescending "dwelling in the past" comment is in-called for, what do we have but precedent to make guesses on? The "6c" will have a longer shelf life vis-a-vis the 7 than it will the 6S. So why would Apple want to intentionally make the "6c" less attractive to future buyers when the 7 comes out? I'm only calling it the "6c" because that's the term you've been using to identify this new 4" iPhone, which could just as easily be called the 7c, and launched early with the 7. It could also be called simply the "iPhone mini" without any association to either the 6 or 7, and have an independent shelf-life.
You're myopic in your focus on the phones place in the iPhone lineup, whereas the only commonality among all these rumors I see is that there will be a smaller 4" screen. And a smart business like Apple will do its best to position such a phone so that they get as much premium money for it as they can. Making it a low budget phone based on last year's flagship is not the way to do that, and virtually gurantees that they will lose profits form a more expensive phone from a size able user base that may opt for size over features.
I didn't make up the term "iPhone 6C". It's what most commenters have been using.
Three months before the iPhone 7??? Hahaha!!! Nice try.
You say that my use of "dwelling in the past" is un-called for and then you call me "myopic"? Wow! Then you try to rebut normative statements as though they were positive statements and positive statements as though they were normative statements.
Welcome to my ignore list.
Three months before the iPhone 7??? Hahaha!!! Nice try.
You say that my use of "dwelling in the past" is un-called for and then you call me "myopic"? Wow! Then you try to rebut normative statements as though they were positive statements and positive statements as though they were normative statements.
Welcome to my ignore list.
I am extremely happy to be on your ignore list. You obviously exist in your own realm of "normality".
And for anybody else following this thread tangent:
http://appleinsider.com/articles/15...usual-launch-for-iphone-7-in-2016-source-says
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Well the Rumor mill is certainly in full tilt over it. Here's a new one:
http://appleinsider.com/articles/15...gb-of-ram-production-to-start-in-jan---report
It says it will have a 1642mAh capacity battery which is very similar to the 6S at 1750mAh, along with the same A9 low power processor. With a smaller screen, and lower power requirements, that sure sounds like the "6c" is going to get better battery life than the 6S gets.