Chinese Source Claims iPhone 5S and 5-Inch iPhone 6 to Launch in 2013

[fertilized-egg]

don't you guys remember when Apple's strategy was designing products making decisions for customers, giving them what they really wanted?
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And also, back in those days Apple was setting the trend, not Samsung.

The larger display trend was started by the HTC HD2 and then the Dell Streak well before Samsung.

But about Apple not giving users choice in sizes, that's simply a myth:

With the iPad mini, the iPhone is now the only major product without a multiple line up other than older models.

 

[maxosx]

heh heh, wait until Apple big phone start to take away sales from Samsung and other Android big phone and you will sing a different tune. Competing in business is not like watching a hero movie. Apple missed the big screen smartphone trend so they suffer the consequence now. so blast them for missing the trend. But it is bizzarre to blast them for trying to correct the mistake. What would you like Apple do?

The thing that will hurt Samsung the most is the mid-priced Iphone. It will take away a big portion of Samsung smartphone profit. The arrogance of Steve Job era is the thinking that Apple knows customer better than the customers themselves. Iphone 5 is developed under Steve Job and he did not push for the bigger screen Iphone. So we know who missed the boat.

Samsung has a solid hold on the space they've carved out for themselves. Apple has followers that are loyal & passionate, yet that is not enough to remain on top forever. The tide has changed, mostly visible to those of us who have seen the number of complaints about Apple like never before.

Apple has good intelligence, thus knowing that they have read & are aware of the number of unhappy Apple customers & have not responded sooner, is puzzlingly. Could Apple really be so arrogant they feel as though they can ignore the competition and just do what many of their followers do? Count the sales and chortle? It certainly seems so. When they released the relatively unexciting iPhone 5, I got a bad feeling. Being led by their greed & vast sales volume they took the easy way out, instead of creating something truly fresh & new.

There's a lot of unanswered questions that will be answered with the upcoming new iPhone. I hope they put their best efforts into this next rev. Theirs plenty of room in the marketplace. Yet I'd really enjoy buying the next iPhone, finding it exciting, and knowing it's the best. Only time will tell.

 

[gto55]

Apple needs to have 2 iPhones, like they have 2 iPad models.

a 4" iPhone & a 4.99" iPhone.

for an iPhone 6 which size is between 4.3 and 5" however MAKE IT WIDER and if you have to, make it thicker for a BETTER BATTERY
There are so many concepts far better than the actual iPhone "elongate" 5, for example: http://goo.gl/CzUw0

 

[sheels]

Chinese iPhone..Haha would love to try

 

[jacobj]

And a cold welcome to the trolls. Copying Samsung? Where to begin highlighting the inaccuracies with this rant.

I'm a long term fan of apple products but I think the original criticism holds true: Apple haven't put anything into an iPhone that was a trend setter in an age. The OS is limited and often it just doesn't work: especially AirPlay. The iPhone 5 is just a 4 with a faster processor and a bigger screen. I am not asking them to change the looks just for the sake of it, but I am looking for something new that we all need but don't know about. That was the magic of apple. Now we just see them add what others already have. They do it with style, but that's all. 7" iPad. It's the same. Where is the thing we need. Their reputation is built on their ability to innovate time and time again and that is why they are fading. We need proof that the reputation was for apple and not just Steve jobs' ability to see the next thing when it came across his path. We all wanted to believe that Steve left a culture that could mimic his extraordinary talent, but we haven't seen any proof of it yet.

Perhaps apple dropping back into the fray will at least silence those that doubted the brilliance of the man.

 

[adamtore]

I'm a long term fan of apple products but I think the original criticism holds true: Apple haven't put anything into an iPhone that was a trend setter in an age. The OS is limited and often it just doesn't work: especially AirPlay. The iPhone 5 is just a 4 with a faster processor and a bigger screen. I am not asking them to change the looks just for the sake of it, but I am looking for something new that we all need but don't know about. That was the magic of apple. Now we just see them add what others already have. They do it with style, but that's all. 7" iPad. It's the same. Where is the thing we need. Their reputation is built on their ability to innovate time and time again and that is why they are fading. We need proof that the reputation was for apple and not just Steve jobs' ability to see the next thing when it came across his path. We all wanted to believe that Steve left a culture that could mimic his extraordinary talent, but we haven't seen any proof of it yet.

Perhaps apple dropping back into the fray will at least silence those that doubted the brilliance of the man.

Putting it down like that all the new phones are just "faster or/and bigger". Very few bring something completely new to the game.

With that said, I dont think Apple users care for new tech/spec., they just want the newest phone. You can come to same conclusion by looking how meny jb:ed their i5, its like 2 million out of how many sold... (6.2 milion activated only in Q4) They just dont care about alternatives, heck, I bet 50% even think Apple invented the smartphone.

 

[jacobj]

Putting it down like that all the new phones are just "faster or/and bigger". Very few bring something completely new to the game.

With that said, I dont think Apple users care for new tech/spec., they just want the newest phone. You can come to same conclusion by looking how meny jb:ed their i5, its like 2 million out of how many sold... (6.2 milion activated only in Q4) They just dont care about alternatives, heck, I bet 50% even think Apple invented the smartphone.

You see, that's the shame of it. Apple never invented any completely new concept, they just recognised when all the pieces to make a mature product were in place and then they blew us away. They didn't invent it, but they made it work. There is no such thing as compete innovation, just brilliant realisation and apple have stoppe doing that.

 

[ValO]

Everyone is talking about a five inch iPhone model.

How about this:

Apple could surprise us in releasing a phablet based on the ipad( mini). With a 5 inch 4:3 screen in 1024x768 res .

Loads of apps are already available ,
Because of the wider screen, it is better suited for email and browsing
Proven technology from the ipad 2 and mini
Not another additional res, less fragmentation.
Not too expensive to produce, it should be based on the design of the ipad mini, just smaller. Ipad min is relatively cheap.(for an apple product). Perhaps this can be the cheaper iPhone for emerging markets?
About the same ppi as an ipad 3 or 4 retina.

 

[Exio]

Here's an example of Samsung's very clever innovation.

You know, "Innovation" the practice Apple was once famous for? Seems they are falling behind Samsung and others, at a rapidly increasing rate.

"The Future Of Smartphones: New Report Says Samsung's Next Galaxy Phone Will Have Touchless Gestures"

Once you read this article complete with illustrations of how it works, you'll see that Samsung is indeed quite the innovator.



sources:

http://goo.gl/DAjQC

http://goo.gl/0VJSY

http://goo.gl/iWsBN

http://goo.gl/4aK2R

They've already started incorporating some of those within their software package. The most useful one I find is when you want to make a call from the contacts menu or the messaging menu you simply raise the phone to your ear, and the phone will initiate the call. The other I seem to use a lot is turning the phone face down on a table to silence.

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let us know how that works out for u. blackberry z10 dead after 4 days.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/13...kberry-10-demo-unit-dies-after-only-four-days

Right...there's no bias there at all...

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Then next year we can get a 6" inch device called an iPhad.

There already is the iFad.

 

[maxosx]

1) They've already started incorporating some of those within their software package.

2) There already is the iFad.

1a) True, Apples expertise since day one has been to rob an idea or proven hardware / software, refine it & claim they created it. I've always admired their ability to do whatever they want, consequence free.

2a) True again.
The question is, can Apple move out of their comfort zone known as denial and shed their roadblock (thinking they are ultra superior minds) and respond before they find the stock collapsing further?

Will they notice the iFad fading... more than they realized and recover to be the Apple of old. Innovative, forward thinking - not just talking like it, and return to a technologically leading edge company. They've been successful in migrating to a mass market retailer, now can they sustain over the decades like Walmart has?

I for one am looking for Apple to wake up and show what they're capable of... before they replicate the sudden & rapid decline of RIM. On the top one day, then sliding down the hill the next.

Bolstered by massive current revenue & huge sales now. The comfy chair they sit in while spewing bragging rights to this, that, and everything, may not be the best seat in the house.

Only time will tell.

 

[Kevin Winsness]

Larger iPhone 6

Regardless of what Apple Inc. is thinking, the general public WANTS a larger format on the iPhone. Tim Cook et.al., please give it to them!

 

[Ljohnson72]

3.5 inches was the best screen size in 2007.

In 2013, many people prefer 4 - 5 inches.

1. I was referring to the iPhone 5's 4" screen.
2. The iPhone 5 came out in late 2012.

 

[fertilized-egg]

Apple could surprise us in releasing a phablet based on the ipad( mini). With a 5 inch 4:3 screen in 1024x768 res .

Loads of apps are already available

Almost certainly not going to happen. The touch targets will be too small and things will be too crowded. The Mini already has a few apps where things are too claustrophobic.

 

[Kwill]

Have fun backpedaling on all the "this screen is the best size" marketing.

Eventually, the iPhone 5s and below will be marketed as the device for stubby-thumb customers.

Apple cannot continue to base the product on the notion that everyone's thumb is the same length nor Steve Job's passion for smaller and thinner everything. As Wozniak said, some people welcome a larger screen. I welcome the release of a larger, wider model.

 

[xofruitcake]

I'm a long term fan of apple products but I think the original criticism holds true: Apple haven't put anything into an iPhone that was a trend setter in an age. The OS is limited and often it just doesn't work: especially AirPlay. The iPhone 5 is just a 4 with a faster processor and a bigger screen. I am not asking them to change the looks just for the sake of it, but I am looking for something new that we all need but don't know about. That was the magic of apple. Now we just see them add what others already have. They do it with style, but that's all. 7" iPad. It's the same. Where is the thing we need. Their reputation is built on their ability to innovate time and time again and that is why they are fading. We need proof that the reputation was for apple and not just Steve jobs' ability to see the next thing when it came across his path. We all wanted to believe that Steve left a culture that could mimic his extraordinary talent, but we haven't seen any proof of it yet.

Perhaps apple dropping back into the fray will at least silence those that doubted the brilliance of the man.

heh heh, what do you call thinner and lighter Iphone 5? It may not be a feature that you think is important but it is certainly took a lot of engineering effort and picking the right component to make it happen. Apple paid dearly both in term of cost and scheduling for the in cell touch technology used in Iphone 5 to make it happen. What about passport? Again it may or may not be something you are interested in, but it is not accurate to say that Apple is not moving the technology forward.

 

[Patriks7]

They should've just gone with 4.3-4.5, ideal size.

 

[GuitarDTO]

I don't think it will be surprising at all if this is true. The novelty of the iPhone has worn off, they NEED a "Phablet" version of it if they want to keep some users from jumping ship. Makes perfect sense to carry a 5s and then introduce a larger version at the same time for those who really want it.

With that said, the software has me more concerned. iOS is getting stale to me personally. I want more customization but I don't want to have to jump ship. Apple has got to realize that as people are more and more used to the iEcosystem it's OK to give them a little bit of control. My Macbook Pro I can customize all sorts of ways, and it still works flawlessly with the Operating system. Give us more choice with the phone!

 

[ValO]

Almost certainly not going to happen. The touch targets will be too small and things will be too crowded. The Mini already has a few apps where things are too claustrophobic.

Ok, but apple could make a workaround in software/iOS to deal with this.

 

[SAL8116]

I believe it is a fact Apple is losing sales to other phone makers who are producing bigger screens. I am one of those Apple lost. After coming to Apple when the 3G came out, I left after the 4s for the Galaxy S3. I wanted the bigger screen size. The S3 has not given me any issues and is somewhat customizable without jailbreaking. I would gladly come back to Apple with a screen size similar to my S3 but no bigger than 5 inches.

I love Apple products. I got a bunch of them. But in terms of screen size the iPhone is behind.

I wonder how much in sales they're losing because of the small screen size.

Also for those of you who are saying no to a larger screen, why couldn't Apple make both? A 4 inch screen to please that clientele and a 4.5-5.0 screen to those who want it? All the other phone makers are capable, I'm sure Apple could be.

 

[twigman08]

To the people who keep saying "it'd just be another Android then" or something of the sort, obviously does not know Apple.

Is the hardware and software still tightly integrated? Ok, it is not just another Android.

Though I wonder if their really is as big as a market as we think their is for a bigger screen? iPhones sure sell A LOT for "bigger to be better."

 

[zign]

And a cold welcome to the trolls. Copying Samsung? Where to begin highlighting the inaccuracies with this rant.

Probably meant in terms of the screen size...

 

[zign]

I believe it is a fact Apple is losing sales to other phone makers who are producing bigger screens. I am one of those Apple lost. After coming to Apple when the 3G came out, I left after the 4s for the Galaxy S3. I wanted the bigger screen size. The S3 has not given me any issues and is somewhat customizable without jailbreaking. I would gladly come back to Apple with a screen size similar to my S3 but no bigger than 5 inches.

I love Apple products. I got a bunch of them. But in terms of screen size the iPhone is behind.

I wonder how much in sales they're losing because of the small screen size.

Also for those of you who are saying no to a larger screen, why couldn't Apple make both? A 4 inch screen to please that clientele and a 4.5-5.0 screen to those who want it? All the other phone makers are capable, I'm sure Apple could be.

I am in the exact same situation, except that I opted for Nexus 4 Was very disappointed with iPhone 5. Don't get me wrong, it's a good design, thin and light, but looks a little awkward being so tall and actually feels like some sort of knock off in your hand. I have in the past always protected the screen size of iPhones, but having used my Nexus 4 for just over 3 months, I must admit, the 4'7" screen is amazing (although if it were just slightly smaller, I could you use one handed for most tasks. maybe 4'5?). iPhone looks weird after N4

So, I would welcome a bigger screen size in iPhones, but 5" is probably a little too big.

But I personally think, that apple should concentrate on the iOS rather than hardware. I haven't used Android for almost 2 years until N4 and google have done a great job. The whole argument about iOS being smoother is hardly an argument any more, as the gap is too close, but otherwise android seems to be way ahead.

 

[Tech198]

I believe it is a fact Apple is losing sales to other phone makers who are producing bigger screens. I am one of those Apple lost. After coming to Apple when the 3G came out, I left after the 4s for the Galaxy S3. I wanted the bigger screen size. The S3 has not given me any issues and is somewhat customizable without jailbreaking. I would gladly come back to Apple with a screen size similar to my S3 but no bigger than 5 inches.

I love Apple products. I got a bunch of them. But in terms of screen size the iPhone is behind.

I wonder how much in sales they're losing because of the small screen size.

Maybe true, but there's no denying the fact the iPhone is popular, just look at everyone who carry's them on trains when people go to work compared to Android phones.

Although, Android phones look good too.. Half a million people can't be wrong.

 

[Toadstall]

heh heh, wait until Apple big phone start to take away sales from Samsung and other Android big phone and you will sing a different tune. Competing in business is not like watching a hero movie. Apple missed the big screen smartphone trend so they suffer the consequence now. so blast them for missing the trend. But it is bizzarre to blast them for trying to correct the mistake. What would you like Apple do?

Sorry Dude - "Correct the mistake" ?
Im hoping you mean Apple should have released multiple sizes?

There are still a lot of buyers who want pocket sized "phones", so heres hoping if they do bring out a 5" - they reduce the alternative Iphone to 3.5".

Even if they turned it into a Sat phone, strapped an i5 processor with all the bells and whistles, if it didnt fit in my pocket - for me its next to useless.

Is it only me that thinks the over 30's with the means buy iPhones, and the under 30's & esp under 25's head for the Galaxy's.

 

[xofruitcake]

Sorry Dude - "Correct the mistake" ?
Im hoping you mean Apple should have released multiple sizes?

There are still a lot of buyers who want pocket sized "phones", so heres hoping if they do bring out a 5" - they reduce the alternative Iphone to 3.5".

Even if they turned it into a Sat phone, strapped an i5 processor with all the bells and whistles, if it didnt fit in my pocket - for me its next to useless.

Is it only me that thinks the over 30's with the means buy iPhones, and the under 30's & esp under 25's head for the Galaxy's.

yes, I think Apple will end up offering multiple size Iphone. I don't see them going back to 3.5 inches because of the aspect ratio. It is one thing to as developers to support old aspect ratio on old apps. It is quite another to ask developer to support new apps on 3.5 inches after telling everyone that they are moving to the Iphone 5 ratio. The over 30 / under 25 comment is very US and Western Europe centric comment. Income level in the rest of the world is nowhere near as good as US and Apple need a much lower price Iphone (something in the 300-350 unlock range) to make it competitive in those part of the world.