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Chinese Woman Electrocuted by iPhone 4 Likely Used Unauthorized Charger
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This is what one of those knock off chargers is like when you get inside
Needless to say, they're utter death traps.
If you have one, throw it out right now and spring for a proper one. Your life is worth more than the cost of a proper charger.
Needless to say, they're utter death traps.
If you have one, throw it out right now and spring for a proper one. Your life is worth more than the cost of a proper charger.
You're trying to start a conversation like that with people like this...?
Its worth a look in the mirror now and again...
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Nothing to do with both iPhone and fake adaptor
According to the news media, the victim just went out shower.
Guess, she is wet hand and pick the phone to talk. She might try to remove the adaptor from 220V (China main voltage).
Since the adaptor is small, and her hands wet, she had touched the AC pin of adaptor, and get shocked.
That's why cable and phone are intact, but the metal frame had some damaged.
According to the news media, the victim just went out shower.
Guess, she is wet hand and pick the phone to talk. She might try to remove the adaptor from 220V (China main voltage).
Since the adaptor is small, and her hands wet, she had touched the AC pin of adaptor, and get shocked.
That's why cable and phone are intact, but the metal frame had some damaged.
NO.
If AAPL sold their cable at a decent price, people would not be buying cheaper counterfeits. Lightning cable just makes this cables more expensive.
For what it's worth,by his incident was on an iPhone 4 with the old dock connector.
I own a bunch of cheapo lighting knockoffs for my iPhone 5. One thing I have done is test them before using them. Simply take a multimeter and test that there is no current to the pins when it's not plugged in. That indicates it is working correctly as the power should only be activated after the iPhone sends a small current back down the line to confirm it is connected.
That being said, if you answer ANY phone when in the shower you can expect things to go wrong. It may only be 5-10 volts but the current is fairly high on most chargers to get the best charging time.
When it comes to false cables, the lightning ones are fine for the most part. Sure if you pay $0.99 for it on eBay then more fool you, however there are some fairly reputable branded fake chargers. I myself have one from play.com as an own brand one and you'd never know it was a fake. I've been using it daily since November last year and had no ill effect.
I own a bunch of cheapo lighting knockoffs for my iPhone 5. One thing I have done is test them before using them. Simply take a multimeter and test that there is no current to the pins when it's not plugged in. That indicates it is working correctly as the power should only be activated after the iPhone sends a small current back down the line to confirm it is connected.
That being said, if you answer ANY phone when in the shower you can expect things to go wrong. It may only be 5-10 volts but the current is fairly high on most chargers to get the best charging time.
When it comes to false cables, the lightning ones are fine for the most part. Sure if you pay $0.99 for it on eBay then more fool you, however there are some fairly reputable branded fake chargers. I myself have one from play.com as an own brand one and you'd never know it was a fake. I've been using it daily since November last year and had no ill effect.
Well it's now that I can say that it's a good thing that Apple can now ban unauthorized chargers with the Lightning cable. If the chargers don't charge the phone, people won't use them. Yes I know it can be hacked but it's still going to limit cheap crap chargers.
Nobody actually blamed Apple for this, only said that an iphone was being used..
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220volts is nothing you gotta have 240 like we have if you really want to get things cooking
RCDs trip at 30mA and within 30 milli-seconds. Most healthy people can survive a 220v shock of 30mA for 30ms.
(RCDs in the US may have different tripping values as your mains voltage is 110 rather than 220)
If you're going to charge your phone in the bathroom then use the shaver socket. The only way you get a shock from those is to short yourself between the two pins of that, not by touching the taps etc.
Once that happens, shouldn't it just go to the cathode without ever leaving the transformer unless one slot on the socket or charger is dead/gone? Or if it goes into the 30-pin cable, it would arc across the pins?
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Sure, but that's not really relevant to the article, which is about an AC to USB DC power adaptor.
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I think that that's what happened. It seems too unlikely to me that 220V current would pass through a transformer and a 30-pin cable without ever short-circuiting.
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You mean chargers or USB to Lightning adaptors? A charger is just an AC wall power to 5V USB adaptor, totally dumb technology.
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Simply because they cost almost as much as real ones (really expensive) and probably don't last very long or don't hold charge well, I wouldn't buy one. I was considering a knockoff battery for my MacBook because the real ones are too expensive, but I guess I'll stick with the terrible one that was in it when I got it.
This is news ?? Wasn't it obvious as to the electrical shock what happened ?
I'm beginning to think these people know what happened, they just fake it. ...
ya, that must be it...... What better way than to get people's attention.
It was a disaster, waiting to happen.
I'm beginning to think these people know what happened, they just fake it. ...
ya, that must be it...... What better way than to get people's attention.
It was a disaster, waiting to happen.
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Got a cheap one for an iBook a few years ago, first one failed after a few weeks, 2nd one didn't last a year before it wouldn't hold more than a few minutes of charge.
Lesson learned, won't be buying non Apple batteries for any Apple products in the future.
The original article stated her parents claimed she used an official Apple charger. Big difference.
Totally idiotic on several grounds: 1. It doesn't cost 25 cents. 2. You can't sell stuff at the price it costs to build, or you go bankrupt. 3. It could be built for 25 cents if you didn't care about it being rubbish quality and a death trap waiting for its next victim.
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There are even stories of unscrupulous sellers who sell you a boxed iPhone, but first open the box, replace the original chargers, headphones etc. with cheap fake ones, seal the box again, and sell the original items for a good profit.
So even if she bought an original, brand new iPhone, and never bought another charger, you couldn't be 100% sure that the charger was an official Apple charger.
Depends on where it shorts to. If there are parallel paths back to ground from the short (IE one path back through the transformer/cable/wall and a second path through your body), the current will split itself between the paths based on resistance. If there are large resistive elements between the short and the wall, there's a good chance most of the current will wanna go through your body instead and kill you.
Far as arcing, you get arcing when you have a voltage large enough to breakdown air and the only way for current to return to ground is by jumping through that air. That wasn't the case here.
I would hope that Apple designs their chargers so that even if your power outlet is faulty (delivers 500 Volt instead of 110 or 220), and my hamster chewed up to the cable, and something went wrong in production of the internals of the charger, it still would be very unlikely to injure or kill me.
But 220 Volt from the power outlet _can_ kill, so if a charger is badly designed and lets your body connect to the 220 Volt directly, sure it can kill you. The chances are worse if you are in the bathroom. Wet body, touching something metallic that is grounded (like the metal bathtub).
I'm not quite sure why this is so hard to get for so many people, but anyway:
It's current and voltage that kills you. In the end it's the amount of electric energy that flows into your body that is important. It's defined as E = UIt with the voltage U, the current I and the time t (assuming U and I are constant). That means: The higher the current, voltage or exposure time, the deadlier. It's also important how the electric current flows through your body (heart and lungs are particularly dangerous). It's of course more complicated, but just never think that any of those factors is not dangerous. They all are in the end.
This has been an issue in the UK. A few weeks back I was watching BBC's Fake Britain Program about fake iPod/iPhone charges one exploded and injured a young girl.
I said from the start though, that the use of a fake charger in this case was most likely the cause. The official Apple ones have so many safety measures in place the chance of them causing electrocution or a fire is very, very low. The fake ones, however, have no protection at all, even the plastic the fakes are made from is dangerous and dont go out within the 30 second allowance when set on fire.
I said from the start though, that the use of a fake charger in this case was most likely the cause. The official Apple ones have so many safety measures in place the chance of them causing electrocution or a fire is very, very low. The fake ones, however, have no protection at all, even the plastic the fakes are made from is dangerous and dont go out within the 30 second allowance when set on fire.
No PROOF it was a fake charger
This is yet MORE opinion/speculation. There is no evidence yet to indicate whether the charger was or was not fake. Given the supposed "Expert" getting the information about Hong Kong electrical voltage incorrect (READ THE ARTICLE!) I question the relevance of his opinion. This is certainly NOT front page news.
Now it may be true that "fake' chargers fail more often (I have seen no evidence, so I cannot comment accurately), increasing the risk of this occurrence. However, that does not prove this incident was caused by the use of a fake charger.
This is yet MORE opinion/speculation. There is no evidence yet to indicate whether the charger was or was not fake. Given the supposed "Expert" getting the information about Hong Kong electrical voltage incorrect (READ THE ARTICLE!) I question the relevance of his opinion. This is certainly NOT front page news.
Now it may be true that "fake' chargers fail more often (I have seen no evidence, so I cannot comment accurately), increasing the risk of this occurrence. However, that does not prove this incident was caused by the use of a fake charger.