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Giz knowingly purchased a lost item. You can "end of story" all you want, that doesn't change anything.

Giz purchased an item that someone said was lost. How do they know this guy didn't steal it. They are going on his "word". I'm walking down the street and a guy says " hey man, I got some Watches I FOUND, want to buy some." If I do, I can get in trouble for buying stolen goods. Also they had the owners Facebook info. They could have gotten ahold of the owner befor trying to sell it.
 
lol. You guys are funny. You REALLY think this wasn't leaked on purpose? C'mon. The year we get a new design, it just so happens to get left at a bar. I mean, i'm sure Apple had NO interest in getting some public opinion before release so they could tweak the design, right? :rolleyes:
 
I love how people are hating on Gizmodo when it's the drunk idiot's fault (if this story is even true) for losing the iPhone. It's huge tech news, and Gizmodo paid to get the exclusive story. That's their business! I would have done the same thing if I had an inside scoop on a story relevant to my industry.

Hope you never make a mistake where someone, a stranger can choose to make a few bucks or end your career.. And they choose to end your career for a few dollars.
 
considering all this content has been removed via an Apple cease and desist, i have a feeling this is a controlled leak.

plus, nothing has been heard about the employee being fired...
 
Either that dude is so fired, or this was an intentional plant of a fake device to trip people up.

If you were entrusted with that kind of property by SJ then would you just leave it laying around? I would be paranoid that I would do something like that and not take it anywhere. I think it was on purpose.
 
Right, and what's the statute on the time we're supposed to allow something to sit there and stay "not lost" until someone else can claim it? Can I go back to the café where I left my pencil in 5 years and expect to retrieve the item?

You're crazy. If you leave something in a public place and someone else picks it up, it's not theft. It's you're an idiot.

You honestly believe anything left unattended is free to take and is *not* theft? And yo're calling me crazy?

I'd best not leave my car parked on the street unattended with people like you around who don't believe it's theft to take it.
 
It's one thing for Gizmodo to run the initial story about the phone and it's details, but it's an entirely different thing for them to go so far as to not only name the guy, but even post his Facebook page. He was already in enough trouble as it was, was it really necessary to add insult to injury?
 
I'm sure the whole story was carefully planned by apples marketing dept

they must be laughing their asses off, gave the world something to talk about until june
 
They should have left it with the bar's lost & found. Taking it, then selling it... sounds like theft to me.

Agreed! The phone wasn't their property. They could have taken it to a police station. Maybe even called APPLE. But, they took it. Excuse - gosh the owner didn't come back.....SORRY!:rolleyes:
 
Gizmodo names the freaking dude who lost the iPhone???????

Can you imagine if this guy was standing next to Steve Jobs as he is reading Gizmodo while exclaiming...."If I ever get my hands on the imbecile who lost the prototype I'm going stomp on him till his guts spew out!"

apple would have known straight away - this dude would have had the remote killswitch activated as soon as he realized what happened, and that wouldn't happen without higher-ups being informed.

right now apple marketing are probably trying to work out how to rejig their marketing plans to make this look less bad than it is but it definitely looks like a proper leak and some massively shady dealings going on at gizmodo.
 
some people putting forward some very good points here. not sure what to think. but one things for sure, it'll be funny when we finally find out the truth behind this story. if we ever do that is!
 
The fact that they know the name of the person believed to have left the phone in the bar would pretty much make the prosecutors case.

Right, it doesn't make much sense. If the guy at the bar who found the phone was able to access Gray's facebook WHILE HE WAS AT THE BAR, why not post a message or send an email via Facebook? That guy had many means to get in contact with Gray before selling it to Gizmodo. He could have turned it into the bar manager and said, this is GRAY POWELL's phone.

But he took it home instead. Made a couple arbitrary phone calls to Apple (perhaps to see what the prototype was worth and how much he could get Apple to pay to have it back?) Then no one at Apple got back to him, so he sold it to the highest bidder.

Gizmodo and bar guy both acted in bad faith of the law.
 
Because Apple has the ability to remote wipe any phone, but not the ability to figure out who the phone belonged to. And they knew to wipe the phone because... the employee didn't go into work the next day and tell them he lost his phone?

I am not sure what that has to do with what I said.

Right, and what's the statute on the time we're supposed to allow something to sit there and stay "not lost" until someone else can claim it? Can I go back to the café where I left my pencil in 5 years and expect to retrieve the item?

You're crazy. If you leave something in a public place and someone else picks it up, it's not theft. It's you're an idiot.

the laws cover this. You have certain responsibilities. You can't just take something. The best procedure is to turn it into the PRIVATE establishment where you found it, not to steal it and take it home. If you pursue that course of action, then anything short of taking it to the police in a timely manner is stealing it. The reality is it is not yours so there is zero reason to leave the bar with it.

"Hey I am going to go down to the Apple Store tomorrow and find me an iPad." Heck screw that I will just go to denny's and wait until someone is looking the other way and find one.

Trafficking stolen goods? Hardly. As far as the original finder is concerned, it was abandoned property. Sure, they should've reported it to the police to give Apple a chance to reclaim it, but it's not stolen. That's like saying you stole the $5 bill you found on the street.

Seriously do you guys just make stuff up? Losing something is not abandoning it. You can't find something in a private place and just take it because you like it. That is called stealing. The police department is the only one who can make a declaration that something has been abandoned.

Giz knowingly purchased a lost item. You can "end of story" all you want, that doesn't change anything.

What is the legal definition of a lost item? Regardless of it being "lost" or not, taking someone else's "lost" item and keeping it is stealing.

Paying someone $5,000 for telling their story about how they stole something and for the item itself can be any number of crimes.
 
Originally Posted by "goMac"

"They do let people take the iPhones out, actually. 2G iPhones were spotted in the wild before launch. Apple doesn't produce fake cases just for people to take the out and about on campus.

It's the only way to test the phones in actual, real world conditions".


You're right. I think it's done a lot more than most people think.
 
not adding up

Like others have said this just doesn't add up. Why no details on the internals? Chip? etc? I actually hope the phone does end up looking like this and this leak is great promo for the forthcoming generation. The iPhone is so hyped now it sells itself so seeing a peak of the phone this early will not hurt Apple in the least. In fact it will probably help sway people into waiting rather than jumping on a competitors phone "now".

Something is indeed rotten in the state of Denmark!
 
When that ex-Apple marketing wrote about Apple's intentional leaks, he emphasized the "anonymous" nature of them, so that they could not be traced back to Apple unless the journalists or bloggers themselves revealed their sources. Of course, they don't do that, as many companies employ these controlled leaks and they would lose access to many such leaks later.

Like I said this is getting spy vs spy like. Jut to strange to put all the names out as well as what they paid, its like they want to admit they did something wrong, this story is not making sense any more. Someone F up big time.
 
Agreed! The phone wasn't their property. They could have taken it to a police station. Maybe even called APPLE. But, they took it. Excuse - gosh the owner didn't come back.....SORRY!:rolleyes:

If you actually read the Gizmodo article you would know that the person who found it tried calling Apple and no one there took him seriously. :rolleyes:
 
This is apple orchestrated PR. If this was really a lost prototype then apple's lawyers would be suing to get it back. And we would have juicy details about the CPU and other hardware internals. Including a complete teardown.

This is a blatant attepmt to see what people think of the new case design
 
Instead of selling or leaking it I would've checked the contacts for Steve Jobs number, call him and try and get a new MBP i7 out of it. :D
 
Giz knowingly purchased a lost item. You can "end of story" all you want, that doesn't change anything.

Giz knowingly purchased an item it knew the seller did not own and had no legal right to sell. Trafficking in stolen goods. END OF STORY.
 
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