I wonder about that, too. I find it hard to believe that there isn't some non-stop monitoring of the phone's locations, remote-wiped or not.
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I wonder about that, too. I find it hard to believe that there isn't some non-stop monitoring of the phone's locations, remote-wiped or not.
Gawker media may also face a serious libel suit on their hands from the Apple employee, even if he DIDN'T get fired. If he was named, had his facebook page posted, and other personal details put up by gizmodo without his consent they could be facing a one-two legal punch from apple and the employee very soon. If this so far as hinders his relationships with his personal or professional contacts or any future employer, he has a plausible enough case.
I could see a crash in all Gawker websites, no more Apple event invites for Gizmodo. A circle of trust, once you're out you can never come back in.
If you read the article, you'd know that they were easily able to figure out who lost it and did not contact him until they wanted to taunt him.If you actually read the Gizmodo article you would know that the person who found it tried calling Apple and no one there took him seriously.
If you are one of those who don't see anything wrong with picking up "lost" items, selling them and making a business out of this transaction, I'd suggest you hire a lawyer before making substantial decisions as you clearly don't have a good legal sense.
hahahaha, good one, depends if the person works for apple then everything is steeling; even steeling a look is steeling.
If you actually read the Gizmodo article you would know that the person who found it tried calling Apple and no one there took him seriously.
He knew the guys name and knew the guy had a facebook page. He spent all that time trying to find an Apple number but never thought to look up the guy on FB knowing that he saw his page? That would have been the first thing that would have come to mind because the only Apple number you will find is customer service not one to the engineering department.
B.S
If some left a case at the bar and some random guy went through it and found incriminating documents about someone in power, he'd be a hero.
Same thing here. Gizmodo did good. The guy who had a prototype phone out and about while he was tying one on is a moron.
Same thing here. Gizmodo did good. The guy who had a prototype phone out and about while he was tying one on is a moron.
No offense to Steve Jobs but he couldn't stomp an ant and make his guts fall out!
If they were going to fire him they would have done it already. The phone was obviously reported lost / stolen. I'm fairly certain that they know where all their field prototypes are and who has them at any given time.
Who's to to say that it wasn't stolen from the engineer? Honestly if I was in his position I would have said it was stolen from me regardless. Right out of my pocket, or at gun point.
Right. In this case the price of sale($5000 for a smartphone) is an admission to knowing this was a case of economic espionage , rather than a simple finders keepers problem.
B.S.
If you find a lost phone in a bar you could:
1. Leave the phone with the manager so when the owner comes back for it, it'll be there.
2. Turn it over to the police.
3. Look through the contacts/email to figure out who's phone it is and contact them to return it.
The phone was stolen.
If you find a lost phone in a bar you could:
1. Leave the phone with the manager so when the owner comes back for it, it'll be there.
2. Turn it over to the police.
3. Look through the contacts/email to figure out who's phone it is and contact them to return it.
The phone was stolen.
I'm not saying Gizmodo isn't in on it, I'm just saying it wasn't theft. If Gizmodo broke into Apple's HQ and took pictures of a secret prototype, there would obviously be an issue. If Apple trusts some twenty-something to take their super secret prototype out on the town, and he gets wasted and just leaves it lying in a bar, do I really feel badly for Apple? Not hardly.
Apple still hasnt tried to get it back... its not illegal unless they want it back thats like saying you find $20 on the ground its not illegal unless someone says that that was their $20 and can prove it
Maybe thats not even what the phone looks like since it was an older model
Geohot (the iphone/ps3 hacker) offered to get it to turn on how would that be if they took up his offer!
Maybe thats not even what the phone looks like since it was an older model
Geohot (the iphone/ps3 hacker) offered to get it to turn on how would that be if they took up his offer!
Quite possibly but this act, as I have been told, has been compromised many times on First Amendment issues. The open source community has reverse compiled many proprietary code and circuit designs with threats of this act being enforced. Also, in several cases, sometimes the entity that was being represented by the prosecution was not willing to divulge further trade secrets to in fact show that there was damage done.
Talk to any good corporate / IP / criminal attorney and you know how hard it is to prosecute this with a good defense trail lawyer. I many cases, things like this can end up in civil court for years without an eventual dismissal of the case as technology progresses.
Exactly. The whole thing just wreaks of bad faith. The guy who found the phone wanted money for it. That is the only reason he contacted Apple and why he didn't message Gray on Facebook.
Where do you live, Utopia? We are in America are we not, people career are made and killed because of stuff like this. You make it sound like this is bigger deal than all the crazy insane things we do to people every day. This is nothing, go read a book or two about how business really is, and go take another ethic class so you can feel all good inside.
So much fun to see Apple cult going in circle. Can't wait for the next news maybe it will have Steve chastising someone or with a big ass smile.
I'll repeat what I wrote in the other thread:
If this is true and that is legitimately a next gen iPhone, then I hope Apple sues Gizmodo into the ground. They've had it coming for a long time, anyway.
If this is true and that is legitimately a next gen iPhone, then I hope Apple sues Gizmodo into the ground. They've had it coming for a long time, anyway.
Matters of national security or whistleblowing are one thing, and as such are protected under the law.
A company's property for the sole purpose of future commerce and earnings (with public shareholders at stake) is COMPLETELY different.
Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.
Damn it. I like how we get to have a sneak peek. But I wished I could have been surprised in June instead. -___-
And just blowing out the guy's name to the whole world is such a freakin' @$$ move. Is it that necessary to ruin this guy's career; the dude probably has some talent in the technology world, but a company wouldn't want to hire his ass since he lost a prototype iPhone.
Hmph. Wonder if he's going to hang himself like the Chinese man that reportedly lost a prototype. yeah, nice going.
And just blowing out the guy's name to the whole world is such a freakin' @$$ move. Is it that necessary to ruin this guy's career; the dude probably has some talent in the technology world, but a company wouldn't want to hire his ass since he lost a prototype iPhone.
Hmph. Wonder if he's going to hang himself like the Chinese man that reportedly lost a prototype. yeah, nice going.
How is this a good analogy? How is a prototype phone that legally belongs to Apple incriminating evidence? If you are referring to the pentagon papers incident, then there was an overall public good being served (even then, that was a matter of opinion to some people). I don't see how this is anything but a federal crime or a PR stunt.
BTW, the Pentagon papers were stolen, but the RAND Corp employee(Ellsberg) was never convicted due to rampant government corruption in the case.
Actually, it is. What I think you were trying to say was ignorantia juris non excusat, or, ignorance of the law does not excuse [you from it].