Why should people waste their time trying to crack apples signing keys when downgrading should always be an option, with given warnings from Apple.
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Class Action Lawsuit Accuses Apple of Crippling iPhone 4s With iOS 9 Update
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Why should people waste their time trying to crack apples signing keys when downgrading should always be an option, with given warnings from Apple.
I would say some people. I don't know how to quantify many and I don't know how you could either. My ipad 2 on 9.2 is slower than ios 6, but oh much more functional that I really don't care.
No, I'm saying this is sue happy nation and it's easy to sue because you don't have to pay for it. Do you not think there are a bit of frivolous lawsuits filed every year? The last lawsuit was dismissed...we'll see about this lawsuit.
But it is a viable option for everyone.
If you want android with pure android and timely updates, get the Nexus 6P.
I believe they did say that the 4S could take the 9, and maybe that was not always true in all cases, depending on your app use. But sorry, dudes. You can restore your phones-- you did make a copy of your last backup, right?-- but if you can't use a 4S with iOS 9, it's not a plot, that's an old phone. Give them 20 cents each and put them back in 8 or 7 or wherever they came from.
I don't know the number, but if there is class action law suit, one thing is certain these people aren't happy with iPhone 4S's performance with iOS 9.
Are memebr of class action lawsuit only people who aren't happy? Certainly not, there are fair share of people who aren't happy with iOS 9 but didn't say anything.
Now, what I don't get is why you so against choice? If people are happy with iOS, they certainly won't downgrade. If it is really small number of people aren't happy, then their downgrade won't cause a dent to iOS. If large number of people aren't happy, then Apple has problem. What Apple did is the most lazy way and most effective way to push people buy new hardware.
Now, with iOS's adoption rate slowing down, banning people downgrade won't help adoption rate, it will only deter people update.
These are two different people. Concerning what I've posted: no, Android systems are known to be full of holes - even if each one of the hardware team tries to fix them, developing their own version - we haven't got antivirus on iOS for a certain reason.
I do not commend open source when it comes to security issues that may arise from it.
As if iOS aren't full of holes?
And about open source, open source community actually fixed holes that Google won't fix.
You really want me to differentiate between open and closed source and each benefits?
No. You just sound like open source are all bad...but no...
But I am big fan of open source.
So now Apple gets punished for supporting iOS 9 on the 4s in the first place? I thought it was fortunate they decided to allow it in the first place. And as we know, no one forces you to upgrade. Perhaps it's slower, but my father has iOS 9 on his 4s and he's never complained.
Now I really believe Apple has a strong motivation to skip the iPhone 5 on iOS 10, and leave the non-64-bit processors behind. Will they do it? I say they should.
Now I really believe Apple has a strong motivation to skip the iPhone 5 on iOS 10, and leave the non-64-bit processors behind. Will they do it? I say they should.
How about suing Samsung for neglecting their Android devices after about a year? A new one comes out and the old one is forgotten. This is how it's been on the Samsung tablets and Camera I have. Nowhere close to the 4-5 years Apple supports their mobile devices! Apple keeps the resale prices good and upholds its brand and its image.
If they hadn't supported the 4s in iOS 9 it would be even more ~obsolete than it already is. And ironically there'd be no lawsuit. I guess No good deed ...
If Samsung ever did this I think I'd go into shock ...!
Funnily enough you don't need anti virus software on Android either, unless you deliberately visit dodgy pornographic websites regularly, or visit sites to download illegal free software, or go into your Android devices menu options and physically Turn Off the security feature blocking you from installing apps and software from outside the Google play store....
I still own two and use them as my daily drivers. Their delicate mix of form factor and base features in my humble opinion is still better than any phone available (apart from the 5s). The CA-201L (Japanese/Korean version) still holds the record in my eyes as the best utility device. And that doesn't even have 3G support in the USA.
To make a long story short, So you see while the 'niche' might be present we are still talking about a large group of people.
It depends on how you look at it I guess.
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And you have to admit their is still a compelling argument for the 4s. If the rumors about the 6c are true i can't think of any stronger evidence to backup my claims.
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why all smartphones suck even after a decade
1) they cost more than the most expensive pc out there considering actual price & mobile data subscription, repairs, accessories
2) they have the worst lifespan in the history of computing lasting a little more than a couple of years
3) they lose value more than anything. in 2018 noone will want to buy a very cheap 6s plus because it will be crippled
4) you have to charge them every day
5) they are best time wasters ever invented! should we upgrade? should we jailbreak? should we sell?
6) their capabities compared to the average pc are very limited
7) they destroy the environment with all that recycling & the energy used to produce them for offering basically nothing new
and so on..
I rest my case
1) they cost more than the most expensive pc out there considering actual price & mobile data subscription, repairs, accessories
2) they have the worst lifespan in the history of computing lasting a little more than a couple of years
3) they lose value more than anything. in 2018 noone will want to buy a very cheap 6s plus because it will be crippled
4) you have to charge them every day
5) they are best time wasters ever invented! should we upgrade? should we jailbreak? should we sell?
6) their capabities compared to the average pc are very limited
7) they destroy the environment with all that recycling & the energy used to produce them for offering basically nothing new
and so on..
I rest my case
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Well, that's not even a objective post. So im sitting here thinking ...WTF?
But let me give it a shot. Don't expect a reply to your followup though.
1.) You can't really compare that to anything though, considering smartphones themselves have only just been popular within the last decade.
2.) This i have to agree with but i think this is in part only because of developers unwillingness to write updated drivers for older hardware. Simply because its a lot of grunt work.
3.) Apple and Samdung devices appreciate in value somewhat as well. Depending on their condition and certain circumstances.
4.) ok ill admit i took my old i5 into service at apple. They replaced the battery for free though
5.) That's what communities like this are for
6.) There is no getting around this. It will always be the case no matter what you do. Even current PC 's are always going to be faster than newer smartphones in the next decade.
7.) Anything you produce and then don't recycle has the potential to help destroy the environment.
Hell your post helped destroy the environment !
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I find your comments useful - you've made good points. But I also think you've establish that anyone who values performance should now be on a 5s (I still have one) or, soon, a ~6c.
Thank you for the kind words.
Also with regards to this. I certainly hope no one got that impression. I honestly don't see much real world value other than for a media * vehicle *, by getting a 5s over a 4s. But thats just my humble opinion.
I would also like to point out to everyone there are many many useful accessories that will work on the 4 form factor that you smimply can't get on later devices. Mainly because they were never updated and their patents have been archived.
Now if we compare the 4s to the 6c and it has all the features of the 6s crammed into it. Its a new freakin ballgame.
Now if we compare the 4s to the 6c and it has all the features of the 6s crammed into it. Its a new freakin ballgame.
I think it will come close. It has the advantage of arriving right in-between the 6s and ~7, which should prevent it from usurping sales, and allow Apple to make it powerful enough to remain current for 1.5-2.5 years before being updated.
Everyone at work thought I was insane keeping my 4S around. But I really liked the size and, until iOS 9, it was running fairly well. I finally gave in and bought a 6S and haven't looked back. But I'll be interested to see how this turns out. The 4S makes for a good kid phone/spare phone.
All they have to do is fix it in 9.4 (or, optimistically, 9.3) and the lawsuit can be thrown out. It's not like iOS is static!
Sorry about your iPad 3. I took mine back within a month of purchasing it and waited 2-3 weeks for the iPad 4 to come out. The iPad 4 worked much better. I believe the iPad 3 was an Apple mistake that they quietly replaced without ever explaining their "failure." My iPad 3 was prone to overheating.
Time to sell it, take your loss, and upgrade if you still like iPads. You got a lot of life out of it. Even my trusty iPad 4 was replaced by me a year ago. 2GB RAM works well in the Air 2. And I believe an update to the Air 2 is rumored for 1H 2016.
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Yeah... I downgraded to iOS 8.4.1 on my iPhone 4S from iOS 9 after about 2 days of use. So glad I did while Apple was still signing. The best option for iPhone 4S is iOS 7.1.2 for stability and function. For me though the vast increase of features on iOS 8 prompted me to upgrade and stick it out. iOS 9 did not introduce as many new features, and the ones it did introduce were mostly not included on A5 devices. In a lot of ways it should have been a massive bug fix of iOS 8, but it certainly wasn't.