Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Class Action Lawsuit Over Broken iPhone 4, 4s, and 5 Power Buttons Finally Proceeding to Trial
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
The idea, even if the attorney wins is that Apple, (or others), lose and are discouraged from shady practice.
You’re saying that’s not worth it?
Nothing at all. But when you call out Californians for the way they do things it might indicate some location-based bias. I'm done commenting on this.
You could always get in the grocery business. People always seem to need to eat, no matter how often they eat.
Oh, so you ARE implying something.
Yes, it absolutely is location-based bias. I’m not trying to hide that from you. They’re a bunch of libs.
Really? Well, now you have, I am an IT Manager with about 30 people at the time and I would say we had 10 failed home buttons on the iPhone 4 and considering that not everyone had an iPhone, I would say that is a lot.
The average lawyer barely earns middle-class wages, let alone an amount that could be considered a "license to steal."
Lucky you, most of the time they would claim it was user error or that there was an app causing the problem.
[doublepost=1556127388][/doublepost]
Not really, consider this, the iPhone 4 is about 8 years old now, other models adjust accordingly. People bout the phone for $X back then, even if Apple had to refund 100% of the purchase price, they have made $Y off of interest on that money all of these years which I am sure they invested in a way that it would far exceed their manufacturing costs.
They will have a small lawyer cost, but that is minimal and will be deducted from any settlement.
An in reality, they won't have to refund the full purchase price, but will probably settle out of court to offer some sort of credit, probably around $150 for future iPhone purchases or a smaller cash payout of around $100. Meanwhile they probably earned about $500 per unit between the original profit, the interest, etc.
So, in the end Apple makes tons of money, gives a small percentage of that profit back, so they still make lots of money, what incentive do they have to not do this again?
This is the problem with these lawsuits taking this long to move forward, if they were tried within say 30 days, then suing over it would make a difference.
Last edited:
It certainly didn’t go “unnoticed,” as I had an issue with my iPhone at the time and had it repaired under the program. And starting 10 months after the first report of an issue is irrelevant, as it would have taken time to gather and process the data needed to determine whether such a program was warranted.
More parasitism through litigation as far as I can tell.
Same thing happened to my Mom and Apple's excuse was that the serial number of the unit didn't fall under the recall.
Nope, always makes a difference. Apple, (or any other scamming company), will have less money than they started with. How much less is open to debate. But less all the same. They also suffer damage to the brand.
I wish California would break off from America. I have never seen such a bunch of whiney people in my life! The amount of class action suits that come out of there is crazy. God help us all if something happens to social media that the state doesn't like lol
Will echo some others: I too had this issue. Unfortunately, no AppleCare and button gave up 1yr 2mo after warranty expired. Had to pay for a replacement ($200?).
And will ditto only the lawyers will get anything out of this. Looking forward to my $10 settlement check.
And will ditto only the lawyers will get anything out of this. Looking forward to my $10 settlement check.
Seriously, that was like a decade ago.
And it only affected like 5%. Hardly a class action.
And people, if they win, will only get like $40.
And it only affected like 5%. Hardly a class action.
And people, if they win, will only get like $40.
Think the article said only people in CA could sue under this lawsuit?
"The proposed class includes California residents who purchased an iPhone 4, iPhone 4s, or iPhone 5 from Apple or a third-party retailer"
Pretty sure it was due to some consumer laws in CA
"The proposed class includes California residents who purchased an iPhone 4, iPhone 4s, or iPhone 5 from Apple or a third-party retailer"
Pretty sure it was due to some consumer laws in CA
I had this problem intermittently with a 5. I took it to an Applestore and told the genius about it and he told me that the problem covered by the program was a permanent malfunction, and not an intermittent one, and I ended up having to get a new phone. Seems that guy lied to me.
I had this problem. 1x 4S, 2x 5 devices...a 16GB black model and a 32GB white model. One of my sister's had this issue with her 5 as well
I usually don't have problems or issues with my Apple products but this was real and pretty frustrating when it happened.
But holy moly that was so many years ago...I wonder how many people in this lawsuit even still own these iPhones as their daily driver lol
[doublepost=1556167484][/doublepost]
Yeah - I thankfully had mine replaced. With the 5, I had AppleCare Plus though so maybe that played a role. That is really unfortunate! That is a sneaky genius you had there.
[doublepost=1556168292][/doublepost]
Yeah it was a while ago - 2010 was 9 years ago, almost a decade - but 2013 (both 4 and 5 were still sold in market until Sept 2013 keep in mind) was a more recent 6 years ago. My MBP I use is a late 2013 model lol. Certainly feels like an eon ago given how fast tech evolves and how much has changed between those iPhones and today's.
Still though, let's say you're right and its 5%; if it only affected 5% of all iPhones (which is actually a really large amount of product to have a quality issue like this...it was probably significantly less than that, by less than an order of magnitude downward, that were affected), there were around 325 million iPhone 4,4S and 5 models collectively sold during their shelf life globally... 5% or 16ish million iPhones having that issue would be an incredibly high number. That's like half the entire population of the State of California itself!
Last edited:
Had this problem on my 5, at the time I was working on a mine site. One day I tried smashing the button against a metal box trying to get it so actuate (fully dented the band, didn't break the screen). After I took a trip to the US, stopped by an Apple store and almost had my phone replaced till they saw it was jailbroken. Some time later after my warranty period ended they had that replacement program, took it in (fresh iOS restore) and they swapped it over straight away! Ended up using it again switching from a Nexus 5.
