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Clearly the majority want iPhone X
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I guess censorship, along with the iPhone 8+'s bezels, have something in common then
. Seriously tho, everybody should enjoy what they have. I never understood why one would need the approval of another (especially when that person is some stranger on the net) regarding a purchase of something with their own money. Saw the same stuff with the iPhone 6/6 Plus and the Matte Black/Jet Black. Every other post was "The iPhone 6 Plus sucks and I'm getting the regular 6 and here's why" and then it was "Jet Black is stupid. I'm glad I got the Matte Black color and here's why" now it's "iPhone 10 is stupid and I'm glad I got the regular 8 and here's why" It's like ok, I get it. The iPhone 10 is hated here. But I don't think we need 50 posts a day detailing why the 10 is so inferior to the 8. No sense in trying to justify and get the approval of random folks on the internet b/c you (not necessarily directing this at you, I mean in general) purchased the 8 over the 10 or even vise versa. I'm gonna order the 10 and no amount of "convincing me" that I made the wrong decision is gonna make me change my decision
That is literally, physically impossible. There aren't enough numbers of iPhone X for sale, and won't be until 2018. iPhone 8/8+ will sell way more than iPhone X.
What people forget is a majority will buy 8 on contract.
Less and less buy sim free these days.
The 8 will do better due to price and availability. Apple will have to reduce the price of there OLED screens for people to buy into the new design.
Less and less buy sim free these days.
The 8 will do better due to price and availability. Apple will have to reduce the price of there OLED screens for people to buy into the new design.
Even with all the complaints and negativity towards the iPhone X, most people are still getting it over the 8/8+.
Just look at the pre-orders. There is no possible way in the past iPhone releases that you could go online right this moment, 2 days after pre-orders, and still be able to get most of the configurations on release day. Or the fact that the worst wait you can find is only 1-2 weeks after release. It’s not like Apple is producing the 8 any faster than the previous models. The demand is just not there. And no, it’s not because Apple is failing or everyone is not upgrading / switching to Android. People just want the best and clearly that is the iPhone X, wether you like it or not.
So while you’re all complaining you don’t like the iPhone X and listing off all the reasons people shouldn’t get one, just know that’s what the majority of upgraders are getting and your opinions mean nothing.
Your very first sentence is wrong and it gets worst after.
The 8 and 8+ will outsell the X. It will not even be close.
You also have no idea at how well the 8 and 8+ are selling. You can not use "in stock" to determine this as you have no idea what kind of stock Apple has.
Just more fake news.
If people are buying on contract then the difference for the iPhone X is negligible, it will be around an extra £10-20 a month. Personally I buy unlocked directly from Apple, but a lot of people do go with contract. I'm not a fan of contracts because you end up paying more over the time, plus they lock you in for 24 months, I might decide I want to upgrade 12 months later instead.
I think the iPhone X is going to sell like crazy but that's just my personal opinion.
Let me start by saying I also want the iPhone X, but ... and this is my opinion, not the "truth".
- I think I will be disappointed about the actual quality, considering the price.
- The display will be fine, but Samsung phones already have them, no groundbreaking difference
- The missing Touch ID might be a concern for me, because it now works in the car, on my desk somewhere, etc.
- Sound and microphone might be not so good, because of the densely packed notch and little room at the bottom.
- Allthough OLED uses less battery when dark colors are used, iOS still has the obsession with whites. This might be an issue.
In short. I'm waiting to preorder one, even with 256GB and leather case plus AC+, but deep inside me I know that a iPhone 8 Plus might be the better choice NOW, at THIS time.
Apple will improve on the iPhone X and next year it might be the one to buy.
But then, I might not want to spend this amount of money again.
So, I agree. The iPhone 8/8Plus will outsell the iPhone X. It is the more rational chioce, if you consider buying one at all.
Leaving all emotions aside, the order would be, in my opinion.
- Buy no iPhone at all, the current ones including even the 6 are fine
- Buy the 7 series, if your iPhone breaks or the battery is getting worse.
For the new ones:
- Buy the 8Phone 8Plus, because the 8 is too expensive in comparison.
- Buy the iPhone 8, because you don't want the big Plus size
- Buy and WAIT for the iPhone X, as nobody knows when they really arrive.
This is all my opinion only, trying to be rational.
But, as I said above, I will be going for the X and preorder and wait and probably be disappointed.
Thanks for reading my contribution to this ongoing wave of comments.
PS: I left out the SE intentionally, as I do not believe it is worth buying at all. Sorry to offend.
- I think I will be disappointed about the actual quality, considering the price.
- The display will be fine, but Samsung phones already have them, no groundbreaking difference
- The missing Touch ID might be a concern for me, because it now works in the car, on my desk somewhere, etc.
- Sound and microphone might be not so good, because of the densely packed notch and little room at the bottom.
- Allthough OLED uses less battery when dark colors are used, iOS still has the obsession with whites. This might be an issue.
In short. I'm waiting to preorder one, even with 256GB and leather case plus AC+, but deep inside me I know that a iPhone 8 Plus might be the better choice NOW, at THIS time.
Apple will improve on the iPhone X and next year it might be the one to buy.
But then, I might not want to spend this amount of money again.
So, I agree. The iPhone 8/8Plus will outsell the iPhone X. It is the more rational chioce, if you consider buying one at all.
Leaving all emotions aside, the order would be, in my opinion.
- Buy no iPhone at all, the current ones including even the 6 are fine
- Buy the 7 series, if your iPhone breaks or the battery is getting worse.
For the new ones:
- Buy the 8Phone 8Plus, because the 8 is too expensive in comparison.
- Buy the iPhone 8, because you don't want the big Plus size
- Buy and WAIT for the iPhone X, as nobody knows when they really arrive.
This is all my opinion only, trying to be rational.
But, as I said above, I will be going for the X and preorder and wait and probably be disappointed.
Thanks for reading my contribution to this ongoing wave of comments.
PS: I left out the SE intentionally, as I do not believe it is worth buying at all. Sorry to offend.
I have no idea if the majority want the X and tbh, any speculation is just that, speculation. My guess is that it will sell well, but how well is anyone's guess.
I don't care what the majority want, I get what works best for me and what I think is a good value for my money. I'm hard pressed to make a case that the X is a good value for my hard earned cash.
I don't care what the majority want, I get what works best for me and what I think is a good value for my money. I'm hard pressed to make a case that the X is a good value for my hard earned cash.
MacRumors forum members make up a very, very small percentage of the whole. Trying to use response here as some kind of accurate sampling for your statement won't work.
i think that "first day buyers" - or let's call them smartphone enthusiasts - will prefer the X. that's why at first there will be a bigger demand for the X and after a while it will go down and casual buyers will mostly buy the 7, 8 and SE models.
Nope, you have no idea what you're talking about. Your assumption that pre-order availability of the iPhone 8 is representative of huge numbers of customers awaiting the iPhone X is about the furthest thing from scientific that one could get. There is actually a 100% chance that the iPhone 8 outsells the iPhone X, for multiple reasons but the two main reasons are:
1. They can only make approximately 70 million iPhone X in the next year, due to component yield rates, specifically OLED availability. Apple will sell over 200-220 million iPhones over the next year. Do the math.
2. The $999 starting price immediately decreases demand by tens of millions of customers, that's not hard to imagine, it's actually quite obvious.
This is MacRumors. Don't be coming into a thread with logic and common sense. It puts a notch in the atmospheric ranting and emotional hyperbole.
We don't have any preorder stats at all to make any judgement whatsoever on sales so far.
I think launch day sales tend to be aberration for Apple device sales or new devices in general. Usually its the hard core fans who will buy phones on those days. Most users I think tend to just pick up a phone whenever they just decide they need it.
The 8/8+ will likely outsell the X in the long term I suspect like others have alluded to due to the price. But it is hard saying because Apple usually obfuscates the data and may group it all together or just mention a specific time period that makes it sounds impressive. Mix this up with the fact that now Apple has a large line up of phones available to cover a larger cost spectrum. You still have the 6S line (To include the SE which is 6S guts) the 7 line and now the 8 and X. But those sales is what will sustain them through the fiscal year past the launch day and increase phone revenue.
But as far as the X vs 8 launch days I think 8 will be a ho hum launch with the X being this big line up and no phones. You know your typical Apple launch. The question I wonder is the media smart enough to realize there will be two launch days or will they latch onto the 8 launch only because its in that typical cycle.
The 8/8+ will likely outsell the X in the long term I suspect like others have alluded to due to the price. But it is hard saying because Apple usually obfuscates the data and may group it all together or just mention a specific time period that makes it sounds impressive. Mix this up with the fact that now Apple has a large line up of phones available to cover a larger cost spectrum. You still have the 6S line (To include the SE which is 6S guts) the 7 line and now the 8 and X. But those sales is what will sustain them through the fiscal year past the launch day and increase phone revenue.
But as far as the X vs 8 launch days I think 8 will be a ho hum launch with the X being this big line up and no phones. You know your typical Apple launch. The question I wonder is the media smart enough to realize there will be two launch days or will they latch onto the 8 launch only because its in that typical cycle.
Considering the price hike of the 8 and the minimal upgrade over the 7, it makes no sense not to pay more to get a X or just get/ stick with the 7.
I mean if you're on a 128gb iPhone 6/S/7+, and don't want to drop down to 64gb storage, you have to pay £949 for 256, at which point why not just go all in and pay £1,149 for the X and get the new design etc. Maybe for regular 8 users the slightly bigger saving getting the 256 model might make it worth it, but again, near minimal upgrade over a 7, which can still be had for less.
I mean if you're on a 128gb iPhone 6/S/7+, and don't want to drop down to 64gb storage, you have to pay £949 for 256, at which point why not just go all in and pay £1,149 for the X and get the new design etc. Maybe for regular 8 users the slightly bigger saving getting the 256 model might make it worth it, but again, near minimal upgrade over a 7, which can still be had for less.
So at the risk of being left out, here's my wild guesses based on absolutely no facts whatsoever. I might as well put them in here rather than starting six new threads and if nothing at least I've got this off my chest.
- I suspect Apple have sold a ***-load of iPhone 8s and 8+'s over the last few days.
- I suspect they had a lot of stock available and its that, not the impending iPhone X which is the reason for better availability of handsets. Every year they try to make the ordering process easier and have enough stock to go around and they are clearly getting better at it.
- That's not to say I don't think people have held off for the X. A certain number of people will have. But there's a larger percentage of folk out there, who don't post on forums like this one, who will upgrade to the 8 or 8+ and literally won't care one iota about the X.
- The price of the X will also put a large number of people off buying the phone or it will mean they simply can't afford or justify it.
- The iPhone 8 isn't (and won't be a flop); Apple aren't doomed and the stories I've heard about FaceID from reasoned technical commentators I respect make me think its not going to be the failure that many seem to hope.
People are moaning about the x due to the price and the notch thats it...most realize it's an amazing device with a great screen that makes the most of the display
Pretty much this. Who gets to use your phone? The one in your pocket? That basically is the only relevant thing.
Both are excellent choices for their own reasons. If you want my advice though I am avoiding the X because I want to see how the apps fair (especially games) with the new screen design and see how FaceID plays out though I suspect it will be fine. I also don't feel like dealing with the mad rush hassle to get one so I figured I can get one next year. That is just my opinion.
I don't care how much ya'll borderline hate this phone in which you've never used. I'm getting the X because I want the X and saved for the X.
But but...someone has VERY CLEARLY explained with 10 reasons why you'll regret getting the X!
most people don't preorder their phones. Most of the people who preorder are the ones who want the best. Not a great indicator of demand. Most people will grab the 8. I'm telling ya that right now.Even with all the complaints and negativity towards the iPhone X, most people are still getting it over the 8/8+.
So while you’re all complaining you don’t like the iPhone X and listing off all the reasons people shouldn’t get one, just know that’s what the majority of upgraders are getting and your opinions mean nothing.
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Clearly you don't understand how average consumers purchase things. Most people don't care about a phone that costs a grand. Many people will get it as a status symbol, or that it's new or whatever. And I'm sure this phone will sell like hot cakes. But your telling me that more consumers will buy the x over the 8 that's just nonsense.