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rdrr

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Climate change is a myth. Besides, I’d rather depend on a crystal radio than a cell phone...

Climate change is happening all around you. That isn't a myth, but you can debate the man made aspect to it.

However, iPhones probably contribute more to climate change (lithium mining) than would benefit you from climate change.
 
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sunapple

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I am curious how this jibes with:
1. the carbon footprint of Apple of 50 round trip United tickets per day to China - why not teleconference? [ see MR article a few weeks ago]

While there's room for improvement for sure, the total amount of CO2 emissions from (all) business travel from Apple in 2017 only accounted for .44% of the total carbon footprint, which can be read in their annual report on environmental responsibility.

2. the article this morning on France24: "Never mind climate change, Davos prefers private jets". Why not teleconference for Tim Cook to go to Davos?

Apparently, it was necessary. I can imagine the flight time isn't that convenient either.

3. the impact of soldering in everything including batteries. While they are recyclable, that takes energy and it would be more carbon neutral to allow batteries to be replaced, memory and CPUs (on computers) to be upgraded etc. [see MR]

Last year, the cost of replacing an iPhone battery through Apple was lower. I think many people decided to replace batteries that were actually still OK (>80% for example). It led to 10x more replacements anyway. What's better, carbon-wise, using the battery until it's barely usable or replacing it too early for cheap? This is without regarding customers.

Of course this assumings that "climate change" means "global warming" and is even real. (And I did see that AOC comment mentioned above, 12 years isn't long). It seems that sometimes the left hand doesn't know what they right is doing. Why isn't Apple doing more to prevent climate change since they are big proponents of it as fact instead of prepping the phone to be there for it?

That report I mentioned should be pretty interesting to you! ;)
 
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shareef777

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But AOC says the world will end in 12 years if we don't do her Green New Deal.

Who cares about 12 years from now, we were all doomed when the wall wasn't built last year (we're all ghosts and you don't even know it). If only these politicians will approve the funding (so that Mexico can finally pay for it lol).
 

tennisproha

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But AOC says the world will end in 12 years if we don't do her Green New Deal.
Source?

And she cited the UN to back up her claims haha!

Way more worried about people like her running the country one day, then Al Gore's now refuted claims that the world should have ended by now.

Why do celebrities and leftie politicians get to fly all over the world on their private jets and go cruising on their mega yachts, and get to tell us with a straight face to chill out on our comparatively inconsequential carbon footprints?

Why do they not practice what they preach at all?
Because those things also contribute an inconsequential amount to carbon pollution. And they’re not telling you to lower your carbon footprint; they’re telling you to vote for leaders who will hold the carbon polluting conglomerates accountable.
 

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I don’t know why this is in politics, politicizing climate change is why barely anything is being done about it. Too many people fighting it which won’t matter when we all end up dying.
 
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thadoggfather

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You beat me to it. I put an event on my calendar for 2031 to mark the end of the world. I figure I can quit paying all my bills about November of 2030 and use the money to really live it up those last 2 months :D

The way it works when the nothingburgers backfire big time, is "why you so obssessed with (insert applicable subject lefties are obsessed with... until it doesnt pan out)" so they can turn it around on you.

REMINDER - You are usually dealing with 'intellectually' dishonest #resistance manbabies.
 
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mariusignorello

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And she cited the UN to back up her claims haha!

Way more worried about people like her running the country one day, then Al Gore's now refuted claims that the world should have ended by now.

Why do celebrities and leftie politicians get to fly all over the world on their private jets and go cruising on their mega yachts, and get to tell us with a straight face to chill out on our comparatively inconsequential carbon footprints?

Why do they not practice what they preach at all?
That’s a good point and it doesn’t matter if you’re liberal or conservative. If you’re telling someone else to conserve and you’re not...then you’re a hypocrite. Plain and simple. The elitist attitude is going to be to their demise.
 

Gasu E.

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This is correct, but really doesn’t make a difference when debating ignorance.

People will listen to their political talking heads before scientists and facts.

The one thing I never understood about the debate is what if the facts and science are wrong? Let’s pretend there is no man made global warming/climate change. Let’s pretend we have an intelligent president who was correct in stating that it was a hoax created by China.

Then what are we gonna say? “Look at all this money we wasted taking care of our earth!” Doesn’t make sense to me.

We should build an attractive steel wall around the USA to keep all the bad climates out.
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Climate change is a myth. Besides, I’d rather depend on a crystal radio than a cell phone...

ICWYDT.
 

DoctorTech

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That’s not what people are saying, they’re saying the effects of climate change will be irreversible in 12 years if we don’t do anything to stop it. Big difference.

Edit: Ok, so I just saw the quote AOC said. She misrepresented what a climate study said. Still, time is running out to slow climate change down.
AOC must be wrong. Al Gore told us in January 2006 that "earth has a fever" and "we only have 10 years to save the planet" before the melting polar caps cause sea levels to rise so much that millions of people living in coastal areas will either drown or be displaced from their homes. If I recall his movie correctly, he even used the term "climate refugees" to describe the people who will be forced from their homes.

So the man who "used to be the next President of the United States" (as he describes himself in "An Inconvenient Truth") claimed in January 2006 that we only have 10 years to save the planet!! Of course, that prediction contradicts the prediction made by actor, Ted Danson, who told us on Earth Day in 1990 that we only had 10 years left to save the planet before the damage is irreversible. However, neither Ted Danson nor Al Gore have the intelligence and credibility of AOC. :rolleyes:
 

DoctorTech

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You have to cut people a little slack today. After all the fake news over the past weekend (Buzzfeed, Catholic kids from Kentucky, etc.) everyone might be hesitant to believe what is being reported today on every main stream news outlet ;)
 
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thadoggfather

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You have to cut people a little slack today. After all the fake news over the past weekend (Buzzfeed, Catholic kids from Kentucky, etc.) everyone might be hesitant to believe what is being reported today on every main stream news outlet ;)

Even when people are presented with the facts on that one, that MSM made a conscience effort to edit and splice the footage to make it seem like the MAGA kid (and he is a kid, you sickos) confronted the Native American drummer, when it was in fact the Native American drummer who confronted and antagonized a benign group of a kids who werent bothering anyone, and the kid simply showed he was going to back down to leftist cowardice, they STILL don't want to believe it, and/or double down on their efforts to say otherwise and control the narrative, and/or believe everything MSM tells them without a cast of doubt.

The depravity and denial knows NO limits!

"How will we ever explain to the children... we support children being harassed, doxxed, their futures ruined, etc etc"

It is the most disgusting display of evil I have seen in all this hysteria in recent history. I hope the parents sue everyone peddling this nonsense, and the kids stay safe. They have to be escorted by police right now, because the situation is THAT dire and there are enough leftist lunes out there threatening them.

Love trumps hate.
 
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Khedron

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The fact the iPhone has to have a minimum charge level before it will even turn on means it's not the most well-suited to a disaster situation.

And will refuse to charge from an unauthorised power source that didn't pay Apple royalties

That BS should be illegal
 

tennisproha

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LOL!

Yeah, ok... I made up that AOC said the 12 years thing and so did every one else here, and every publication, and the video that has her saying that too, because you refuse to research for yourself. If one could even call it research which I question. You are stubborn in your ignorance.

I cant even :D

The poetry of caring so much you cant even google easily verified statements for half a second.

Also take your bleeped out curse words elsewhere chap; makes you appear like an unhinged lowlife out of arguments running on raw emotions. Reeeeee
lol when you google that quote, the first source that comes up is your comment. Figured. Looks like you made “the news!”

Hey everyone thadoggfather is actually AOCs username! Trying so pass off as someone else. Nice try.

Idk why macrumors keeps bleeping **** out. I was typing your hometown but they think it’s a curse word lol.
 

thadoggfather

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lol when you google that quote, the first source that comes up is your comment. Figured. Looks like you made “the news!”

Hey everyone thadoggfather is actually AOCs username! Trying so pass off as someone else. Nice try.

Idk why macrumors keeps bleeping **** out. I was typing your hometown but they think it’s a curse word lol.

take a chill pill you totally need it. And that isnt even true. Typed AOC + 12 years and found exactly what I was trying to show you, stop being helpless and angry its a bad look.

The first step is acknowledgment! You're spiraling out of control and not sure how much more I am going to engage with you.
 

tennisproha

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take a chill pill you totally need it. And that isnt even true. Typed AOC + 12 years and found exactly what I was trying to show you, stop being helpless and angry its a bad look. The first step is acknowledgment!
Maybe if you didn’t take so many “chill pills” you’d have a few more brain cells.
 
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Wow. What a heaping load of cow manure. So Samsung phone do not matter and are (obviously) inferior to iPhone? I’m sure we are capable of using the same techniques to survive a weather anomaly like we did before smartphone. And to say we are experiencing more weather related events is a stretch. It’s the same thing year after year, season after season and it’s not bc of climate change, it’s mother Nature doing her thing.
 
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That depends on what you specifically mean by, "climate change."

Does the climate of earth change? (Yes - not a myth)
Has mankind been the major cause of the climate of earth changing? (The science is not settled)
It’s a general consensus that when someone says “climate change” they are referring to man made. Not changing of the seasons.
 
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