Outside might look similar, but it's completely different inside. Especially the fan system (and exterior intakes). Also the display housing is completely different.
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Outside might look similar, but it's completely different inside. Especially the fan system (and exterior intakes). Also the display housing is completely different.
I don't think it looks dated, it still looks minimalist. The retina MBP doesn't look that much different, especially sitting next to the much sleeker Airs.
Maybe it's just because we're so used to seeing them over the years? I don't know how something so minimal could be significantly redesigned.
It's sort of like a Porsche 911. Every new generation kinda looks the same, recognizable as the same car, although it may have entirely different technology.
Maybe it's just because we're so used to seeing them over the years? I don't know how something so minimal could be significantly redesigned.
It's sort of like a Porsche 911. Every new generation kinda looks the same, recognizable as the same car, although it may have entirely different technology.
Classic MBP, the legacy one according to some rMBP fans
It's out of hand. I've seen cMBP, uMBP, LMBC, and even reverse orders of those.
It's freaking MBP!
I don't like the bezel on the Air either, and the taper is way overdone making the touchpad look tinny and cheap.
I'd much rather have a "dated" LOOKING tool that has far more functionality and productivity compared to the new "thin and light" tool with inferior sound, screen size and that requires me to carry dongles and additional drives to compete with the previous MBP.
My post was supposed to reflect how effective Apple's marketing actually is. The fact is, MBPs aren't obsolete. However, they seem obsolete due to Apple's marketing.
The OP's question was whether the MBP looks dated. And the answer for most people is that it does, even if that's just because of Apple's marketing.
Both base machines are $1,199.
With the Air you're stuck forever with a measly 4GB of ram and a super expensive to upgrade SSD.
With MBP you get the option for an optibay drive going up to 1TB, built in FW800, replaceable battery, 16GB of ram, and faster processor. Oh and I can upgrade any of that whenever I want.
Tim, you've done a great job with the sheep...please pat this one on the neck, give him a treat, and refill his Kool-Aid.
Obviously I'm as aware of the specs as you are. But how many of those uni students flocking to the 13 MBP have even HEARD of Firewire, let alone have the remotest use for it? For the average purchaser of the MBP 13 who is going to use it for email, facebook, Safari, and the occasional paper, I contend the MBA is a much better choice
Tim, you've done a great job with the sheep...please pat this one on the neck, give him a treat, and refill his Kool-Aid.
I love this.. pure win!
Do not underestimate the power of big numbers. Who cares if the Air has a flash drive in it, it doesn't hold as much and people don't care about speed. From what I've seen Pros still outnumber Airs and will continue to do so as long as one has a bigger drive and the iDevice mentality is linked to them.
People don't care about speed?
To me, nothing matters more than speed and consistency. If I need more space after buying a computer, I can just get a couple externals and be set. If I can't run my programs in a quick and concise manner, I'm SOL.
"pure win"? What does that even mean. Is this a forum full of bored children on their summer break from middle school? Pretty sure Pentad was making fun of the fact that you are blindly following and succumbing to Apple's marketing.
Bingo!
Isn't it amazing that the OP thinks the CMBP are 'thick'. Marketing is amazing when done well. The fact of the matter is, I had the total opposite reaction to the new RMBP. I didn't think they looked all that different. It was hard for me to tell which one was which since none of them are sitting next to each other in the store.
Do you remember when water bottles were a not common? Why doesn't anyone drink tap water anymore? Did our parents get diseases from doing so?
Why the need for drinking water that we have to pay for when water is free from our tap, or allot less expensive than the bottled version. One word :Marketing. (for the record, I do not buy bottled water).
The CMBP's are thin. Very thin. Engineering at it's finest. They are about as thin as you can go without giving up a replaceable HD or SSD and Ram. Any thinner and you simply have to give those up for the design to work well.
Hence the RMBP non-replaceable Ram and SSD. There isn't much more to the design you can do. Remove the OD and make the battery bigger or ad a SSD as standard for boot.
Apple's marketing is such they make you think that just a quarter inch or 6mm more than a RMBP makes it a 'thick' laptop. Like the 2' or 3' inch laptops of years past, are you kidding OP?
These are the facts: Only 6mm or a quarter inch separates the RMBP from the CMBP. That's it. The CMBP can almost qualify for ultrabook status. 24mm to 21mm. The RMBP is 18mm.
I love my RMBP, but the design is not much better other than the screen that the CMBP. Thinner yes, better not by much. To each his own, but that is just my opinion.
Yes "blindly" following Apple's marketing... The advantages and improvements in the new design of the Retina Macbook Pro are all just a complete illusion fabricated in the marketing department of Apple. Please show me who can seriously compete with the Retina MBP right now. I'm sure they are in their R&D labs right now after having been shown how its done trying to figure out how they can offer a copy... for people who are worried about being considered a fanboy and drinking too much of the "koolaid"
Nah, you got this the wrong way around. First look at an iPad and its beautiful streamlined design. No keyboard, no mouse, no hinges, and barely no holes for connectors. Now look back at that fat rMBP with its ugly connectors and noisy fans. And ewww... it has pieces of plastic sticking up and you're meant to put your fingers on them. It looks like a torture device which dates back to the medieval age. And plus it stinks too... Just put your nose up against it. I can sleep with my iPad, but that thing ain't getting within a hundred feet of my bed.
More seriously... to me the cMBP looks like a solid and well built machine. In fact, I wouldn't mind if Apple were to make a 'rugged book' that could absorb shock and was waterproof. Even if it were fatter and heavier...
Umm, yeah. That is why the Airs (well they were at first, anyway) and the rMBP are selling at premiums.
This thread was made to discuss design yet some people seem hell bent on having a rMBP V uMBP. Fact is that both versions of the MBP are ansolutely essential. Apple cannot dump upgradable laptops because they will lose a massive customer base. Yet non upgradable computers may be the future. Most consumers do not upgrafe their pc's ever, and just buy a new one when theirs gets slow or old.
On the subject of design, I disagree that the umbp looks dated. I just bought a retina but I still see the umbp as current. It is gorgeous. Not as nice as the retina though
On the subject of design, I disagree that the umbp looks dated. I just bought a retina but I still see the umbp as current. It is gorgeous. Not as nice as the retina though
This thread was made to discuss design yet some people seem hell bent on having a rMBP V uMBP. Fact is that both versions of the MBP are ansolutely essential. Apple cannot dump upgradable laptops because they will lose a massive customer base. Yet non upgradable computers may be the future. Most consumers do not upgrafe their pc's ever, and just buy a new one when theirs gets slow or old.
On the subject of design, I disagree that the umbp looks dated. I just bought a retina but I still see the umbp as current. It is gorgeous. Not as nice as the retina though
No one is comparing the two saying which is better than which. The OP stated that the CMBP is looking dated and 'fat'. Which it is far from. Only 6mm separate the two in thickness. Not a big difference at all. Very little difference actually. I own the RMBP and CMBP, is the design on the RMBP better, well that is user preference. Does it look as good, yes, in my opinion it does. Does the screen no it doesn't'.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder isn't it?
6mm or less than a quarter inch is not much at all. The CMBP is one of the thinnest 15 laptops on the market to this day. It most likely is the thinnest or one of the thinnest laptops with user replaceable parts. Any thinner and that benefit goes away.
Almost qualifies as a ultra book. It's 24mm thickness is only 3mm away from 21mm for qualifying for ultra book status. The Retina MBP is 18mm, 3mm under the ultra book guideline's for 15 laptops. But the OP thinks they are 'thick' and look like laptops of old. Apple doesn't have good marketing?
Here is a dell that is fairly new. Still thicker than a CMBP.
http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-15z/pd
Hence the Apple marketing tag line.