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QuickTime is a video player, not a format.
There is no such thing as a "Quicktime format." Your post makes no sense.
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QuickTime is a video player, not a format.
There is no such thing as a "Quicktime format." Your post makes no sense.
Instead of adobe spending all this time and money suing apple, why don't they take that money and effort and just make a better product?
All apple has to do is enable flash on an iphone and go to a flash heavy site and show them how slow it runs and crashes the browser.
It's like a car company not wanting to use a certain engine because it does not run well, and that engine company suing the car company for not using their engine.
Also weren't people bashing apple when they decided to take out floppy disk drives (3.5) from their computers?
Last time I checked no computers have those kind of drives anymore.
All apple has to do is enable flash on an iphone and go to a flash heavy site and show them how slow it runs and crashes the browser.
It's like a car company not wanting to use a certain engine because it does not run well, and that engine company suing the car company for not using their engine.
Also weren't people bashing apple when they decided to take out floppy disk drives (3.5) from their computers?
Last time I checked no computers have those kind of drives anymore.
Probably because the Desire was released less than a month ago and the iPhone 3GS was release almost a year ago? And also, once something becomes popular it is hard for competitors to persuade customers to purchase their product even if it is better. Even if Mac OSX is a lot better than Windows, for example (and I'm not saying it is), a lot of people won't even consider it because Windows is by far the most popular.
The web experience is OBVIOUSLY better than it is on the iPhone:
- Supports Flash Lite
- You view it on a 3.7" OLED screen
- Higher resolution than the iPhone, so it's better for browsing - can see more of the page at once
- The Snapdragon processor renders pages faster than the 3GS
- Bookmarks widget on your home screen
- You can download and save files
And the browser uses Webkit, so it should render pages the same as the iPhone 🙂
Yea, the Desire is going to outsell the iPhone just like the Droid was supposed to 🙄. Don't you think the era of the "iPhone killers" has come to an end? Or are we going to come to the consensus that no company is willing to invest as much money and resources into their mobile phones as Apple is willing to do.
Well all of this will be moot when the 4G iPhone comes out next month. And BTW, most people buy a PC because they are cheap. In the process, they are forced into using Windows. More or less everyone who buys a Mac gets it for OSX.
I've already said it probably won't outsell the iPhone. In fact I'm 99% sure it won't.. but that doesn't mean it's not better, it just means it's not as popular or well known.
Not only do people buy PCs because they're cheap, but also because it's all they know. If I asked my mother what she thinks of Macs, she'd be like "what's a Mac?" - it's a similar thing with the iPhone. The iPhone was the first smartphone of its kind, and it's often all people know. If people actually gave the alternatives a chance, they would often find that they're better.
Android is gathering pace though, I'm hoping one day soon people will realise the iPhone is no longer the king of smartphones. Not even close 🙂
appleguy123
macrumors 604
His job is to make share holders the most money... He should put whatever consumers want in it unless it decreases the quality of the device. I agree with his decision on Flash, because it does slow the device.
mikethebigo
macrumors 68030
I voted that we should be most concerned about the police raids. Not liking another company's software is one thing, but the police **** / Apple people showing up at houses is just getting creepy.
I've had the nexus one for like a week and i don't see how it's a better experience, except it was faster. With both phones it came down to who had more apps. But the other thing is i do mild web searching on my
iPhone and I've only hit 2 web sites that i can't access because it's flash within the last 2 years. So in my eyes is the flash worth it? No.
Most Android phones have Flash Lite atm. When Android 2.2 is released it will come with Flash 10.1 installed - the full version, not lite.
Most new Nokias have Flash Lite too.
I'm sure there are more but that's what I know from experience 🙂
This is getting very old. Apple did not show up at anyone's house, the authorities did. Apple reported the theft (from their perspective) and the authorities decide what to do about it. And before you tell me that Apple is on the steering committee for the group that responded, so are dozens of other companies in the area.
And as to CNET, anything they do or say about anything is irrelevant.
IMO the nexus one did have a nice screen and that's about it in my books. But the bad things over weighted the good things by a landslide. Widgets are useless when it updates only as often as i the time specify with not push notification. Poor battery life with widgets updating and the 1 ghz gets up the battery, which i would of hated to see the battery life with flash. No apps that are worth a damn and fit the screen. The phone volume was so quite and when you had the phone laying down on the table, you couldn't hear calls. 3G never worked either, so surfing Internet sucks. Last but not least the phone felt cheap but the iphone cracks so that part is a draw not did i use the nexus one long enough to see if it will crack but i didn't think so.
I also love how simple the iPhone is and how smooth it is with performance and how it is developing. Apple wants to developer slower than other companies to do it right the first turn which i am a firm believer of. I just can't stop saying all the reason i love the iPhone over the android. I actually never understood the android multitasking, if you would call it that. My buddy showed me how to "multitask" on his android which i though was retarded cause the iPhone could already do there so call multitasking. Also one word, iTunes, i love it but i know some people don't.
japasneezemonk
macrumors 6502
I'm thinking we should wait until June when Adobe plans to introduce Flash 10.1. Right now your options will be installing Skyfire browser on your Android device and have it transcode Flash videos into HTML5 or using a device with flash lite like the HTC Hero.
JackAxe
macrumors 68000
You're both correct. QuickTime is a format, it's a container. ".QT" is Quicktime.
JackAxe
macrumors 68000
The other posts covered your question, I'm just adding some rambles.
I'm buying a Google Nexus One, since I'm on T-Mobile, but my friend just got the HTC Incredible through Verizon and it's an impressive phone. Anyways, these phones and others mentioned will run Flash 10.1 with in the next few months -- I recall hearing by June.
Here's a list of features for Android 2.2, if you're interested.
IMO the screen on the Nexus One doesn't look so hot.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news...nexus-ones-screen-science-color-and-hacks.ars
So instead of taking our freedom away by adding Flash we should just not have the option to use it at all?
I wish the US was communist.
VulchR
macrumors 68040
Fair enough, but QT files are in a format that is not readable without Apple software, so while QT is not a proprietary format, Wiki describes it as a proprietary 'framework'. Hardly an open standard. My comments about the nonsense of having a proliferation of diffrerent incompatible multimedia 'frameworks' stand. I really hate having need of different plugins/players from different companies that are squabbling like children. The current situation is about locking consumers into commercial systems rather than the end use experience. It's not just Apple, but MS, Adobe etc.
maflynn
macrumors Broadwell
If you read that article you'd see that the color, text crispness and vibrance is still much better then the iPhone.
I used (and returned) a nexus one and its screen blew away my iphone. I returned it because the software did not fit my needs as much as the iphone did
As for the poll, it looks like I'm with apple is at 39% and adobe is 35%, nearly a statistical tie. Personally, I'm with adobe on this one, while Jobs' letter made some points I think he failed to ultimate convince me that having no flash was a better choice.
That is YOUR personal experience. That does not make it FACT.
only ONE website I go to uses flash. LOCKERZ.. It's not really a big deal to me or a lot of people to not have flash. So bigger? the iphone is big enough , clearer screen. a clear screen is not worth features and other amazing things you can do with the iphone(especially jailbroken). Stop complaining on a mac forum and go to a nexus one forum and talk about how much you love it SIMPLE as that . good bye
I've never used the nexus one but I have a desire, which is essentially the same thing with different software. The battery life on these phones improves after 6-7 charges, so if you didn't have your phone long you probably didn't get that far. If 3g didn't work that could have been a network or unit problem. I get 3g all the time.
As for push widgets - Android is still in its youth so this is something that could be added down the line.
I actually find the desire easier to use that my first iPhone because it has the features I expect it to have. I wasn't looking around trying to find out how to forward text messages or Bluetooth files.
You probably don't understand the multitasking because you don't notice it. If an app needs to carry on processing in the background it will do so, theres no need to inform the user of that 🙂
Let me guess, you've read those articles about the touchscreen tests that show its not as accurate as the iPhone? The "problems" that have no bearing on day to day use of the phone and only appear in carefully planned tests? 😉
You should actually use the device and not just assume things.
Again - try using it, not just reading articles. The screen is so much less washed out than the iPhone and doesn't have those yellow/blue tinge issues that so many have 🙂
- posted with my HTC Desire