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Code for Apple's Communication Safety Feature for Kids Found in iOS 15.2 Beta [Updated]
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Apple clearly never went to a primary school in the pause, and just listened to kids public conversations.
It can be shocking!
Their conversation is often just ************************************************
They aren’t all so innocent as Apple think they are.
It can be shocking!
Their conversation is often just ************************************************
They aren’t all so innocent as Apple think they are.
To me, it just makes it obvious that people don't know what they're talking about.
Apple doesn't own all data on their iCloud servers. Apple rightfully has access to the photos stored on their servers. Big difference between owning and having access.
Apple won't issue the wording. The wording will be "we have a warrant to search your premises" or "you are under arrest" issued by the cop who comes to the door of the person who uploads it.
Nothing stopping that kind of scenario. Apple would have to honor such laws unless it decided to stop doing business in that country.
That's exaggerating a bit. I see your point, but someone would have to be under 13 AND receive a photo flagged as nude AND open the photo AND click through the warning before parents are notified. Not that it can't happen especially to young people who just blindly smash buttons, but I doubt the false positive rate among photos received by 12 year old children would be that high to be a huge concern. You also have to consider that it could actually protect children who legitimately get harassed and are too scared to talk about it.
That said, I do have total sympathy for LGBT children and think anyone who disowns or harms their child because of their sexual or gender identity is a horrible person and should not be allowed to have kids. But for now I'm slightly more positive given all the safeguards that have been put in.
And so far none of the documents say that the actual photo will ever be stored unencrypted on Apple's servers or sent to the parents - of course, parents can simply take the child's phone, but at least there aren't wider privacy implications of this (even though your account would have to be marked as 12 or younger for this system to kick in anyway, for ages 13-17 it's completely on-device and the parents are never notified).
This is going to lead down a slippery slope where they start scanning for Nazi, ISIS, MAGA and Confederate imagery.
Right. Look the US government is very flawed, but I’m not cynical about them abusing something like this. This feature probably won‘t affect any US citizens except actual child sex offenders.
But I’m looking at the bigger picture. I can see the governments of Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc. abusing this technology.
Surely you have a spare iPhone you could set up for a fake child to test it?
Interesting idea. I’ve never tried searching for “nude” or “breasts” or “penis” etc in my photos. “Cats” works.
The problem with that argument is “obvious” is subjective. What’s obvious to you isn’t always obvious to somebody else coming from a different context. Even if you can’t think of an example of someone who might not find this one obvious, the principle applies in many other situations, so the habit of using careful, accurate, unambiguous wording is a good one to be in.
Greetings from Lukaschenko & Co. , they will love this kind of features!
You’re all afraid of this so-called slippery slope, as though Apple doesn’t already have the power to spy on you if they wanted to! How about pausing for just a moment, using your own head (instead of just parroting what everyone else says), and taking a look at what this technology actually does… because from where I’m standing, it’s helping to address a huge problem and in a pretty sensitive way. Young people have ended their lives over online bullying and the sharing of nude images. But don’t worry yourselves about that… go on, grab your popcorn, or rant and rave about how unfair this is for you, you poor, poor entitled iPhone owners.
(For the record, I also support the far more controversial CSAM technology, but I’m not talking about that here. I’ve already posted at length about that elsewhere.)
(For the record, I also support the far more controversial CSAM technology, but I’m not talking about that here. I’ve already posted at length about that elsewhere.)
It is for young users under a family account. It could be handy if you 10yo son receive and send nude photos.
What is exactly? It is parental setting in a family account for a user under 13yo.
Yeah sure, that’s how it usually starts, but then expands.
This screams "some Karen" from California all over ?
That being said... My fiancé is a social worker and judging from the stories that I have to hear on a daily basis.... Some parents need help being parents
As long as these "safeguards" can't be exploited by law enforcement without a legal and highly justified warrant... have at it
That being said... My fiancé is a social worker and judging from the stories that I have to hear on a daily basis.... Some parents need help being parents
As long as these "safeguards" can't be exploited by law enforcement without a legal and highly justified warrant... have at it
It’s not about whether Apple wants to spy on you, it‘s about foreign governments requiring Apple to spy on you. Foreign governments will try to abuse this technology. Apple already censors the app store to appease Russia and China.
Nice! I'm all for this feature. Protecting children is important.
Let me say it that way…
What you now see in China, it’s coming to your country in near future.
Welcome scoring, and more CSAM like stuff.
What you now see in China, it’s coming to your country in near future.
Welcome scoring, and more CSAM like stuff.
I understand wanting to filter material for children, but that really should be the parents’s responsibility. Companies should probably filter certain materials within their corporate scope of responsibility, for example if someone was breaking the law on Facebook and trying to prey on children, then I think Facebook should ban them. But trying to police the entire internet is an impossible task, and it isn’t the corporations’s responsibility to police it. They should report suspicious activity to the parents and authorities though. As the old saying goes, the road to hell is often paved with good intentions. Ultimately, the parental units are responsible for protecting their kids. It is far too easy to let kids entertain themselves on the internet so as not to be constantly bothered by them. However, if they brought them into this world, then they damn sure should watch over them and protect them. I think Apple is confusing good intent with responsibility. It is a thin line between good intent and encroaching into someone else’s business. Perhaps Apple should try to bring together many of the major tech companies with parents and legal advisors and law makers and approach it from that angle.
Every year many kids gets road-killed, they should prohibit cars and trucks.
Child safety first!
Btw. why not prohibit cameras?!
10 years of prison for owning a camera, thats what we need.
Nothing new here. Governments (foreign or otherwise) already pressure Apple for access to our private data. At some point you either need to trust Apple’s public statements about this, or throw your phone away and go live in the wilderness. (A lot to be said for that actually!)