Typical fallacious argument. Do they not have road rules in your country? No seatbelt laws? No speed cameras? No road signs advising you of possible dangers ahead??
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Code for Apple's Communication Safety Feature for Kids Found in iOS 15.2 Beta [Updated]
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Okay to build on your stupid analogy. What if they built a system inside your car that would detect when you're about to run someone over and the brakes come on and say "are you sure you want to run over this person? This could send you to prison for a very long time and the cops will be automatically called if you continue" -- That's basically what this system is doing, and it's only for kids under 13 for pete's sake.
Do they not have child safety laws in your country?
Of course, words have meaning, and using a word in isolation while meaning something else is just a signal that says "this person is below average intelligence, don't even bother arguing with them".
As much as I understand certain criticisms of CSAM, and I'm not sure I'm sold on it personally, we're all naive for thinking governments don't already monitor this stuff one way or another. Various countries already employ many avenues of surveillance and have been doing so for decades.
Nahh, all of the hatred came from the CSAM matching hashes of your personal photo library. I have no problem using on-device machine learning to scan photos sent to a young child, and I suspect many others don't either.
I agree with what you're saying, but there is an increasing trend over time of parents expecting everyone other than them parenting their child.
I don't understand how a country like Russia or China could use this technology if Apple owns it though? I suppose if those governments go to Apple and request information under law, Apple may have to provide it, but how is that any different than how things currently are? If Russia "subpoenas" person iCloud data, then it's already in the cloud for the taking. CSAM doesn't change that.
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And tanks with people in front of them.
I often read comments discussing LGBT+ kids being adversely affected by these child protection implementations. LGBT+ kids are more at risk of being victimized by predators, especially LGBT+ kids (remember, we are talking about kids under the age of 13) in repressive households or communities. Apple's child safety feature directly tries to prevent vulnerable kids from being groomed or victimized in private messages. We shouldn't suggest that LGBT+ kids are less deserving of being protected.
Are there bigoted parents and adults? Yes, there are. Almost all policies are a compromise of potential harms. I think it is best to err on the side of preventing active victimization o children. We can continue to work collectively to reduce the harm of repressive cultures that can also harm LGBT+ young adults as they explore and discover their sexuality.
So Apple waited til the heat died down a bit and is introducing the backdoor spyware we all knew was coming. Such a detestible company run by an equally despicable CEO. Apple is clearly no longer about privacy & security and in many ways never was
They do. And this technology will act much like a road sign, warning of danger ahead.
I’m for a license(like a driver license) to allow giving birth, that would safe many children from incompetent parents.
And yet there is precisely nothing stopping any country from requiring that today, with or without Apple's CSAM scanning tech (which isn't even really new, it's just fuzzy image matching). Look at how iCloud operates in China, or the lack of VPN apps (among many, many other categories) on the App Store there. Look at the various things that iPhones sold in Russia are required to do that others aren't, such as offering certain apps during setup.
The fact anyone sits and tries to argue that the only thing stopping Russia, or China, or anybody else from mandating scanning of user data on the device for any given purpose is that Apple hasn't yet actually implemented that on a device is absolutely insane. That would be the same thing as trying to argue that the only thing stopping governments from requiring surveillance cameras was facial recognition wasn't yet available. Have you ever been to the UK? I haven't, but I am keenly aware of the nearly ubiquitous CCTV coverage that existed long before facial recognition tech.
One thing is not being prevented by the other. Anybody who argues otherwise has no handle on the state of the world or how governments operate.
And for the record, as somebody else mentioned upthread, Apple long ago implemented actual ML scene and item recognition in photos. The fact that that went by without so much as a whimper from anybody, but as soon as they pivot to match against known CSAM images there is a "massive problem", is so ridiculous I don't even have the words to describe my utter disbelief.
Road signs are passive objects, put a permanent red bar with blah blah in their chat views and we’re fine.
The "backdoor spyware" that sends information nowhere except an autogenerated notification to a parent. Right. Even for this conversation, you are a shining star of having no idea what you're talking about.
All of the wording seems pretty helpful for kids. Only pedos will disagree.
The CSAM detection as proposed cannot search for something as vague as "promoting homosexuality", it only searches for specific photographs. In addition, the device doesn't know if an image is CSAM or not, that detection happens on the server.
What's stopping the detection you've proposed? The answer is nothing, and the answer has been nothing for years. Apple's proposal doesn't change anything.
Apples new strategy.
Slide the features into small updates and say nothing.
Slide the features into small updates and say nothing.
And what's stopping another country from building a database of photos they find troubling and telling apple "you must detect matches of these, you have to comply"?
What is wrong with CSAM on Messages app? Or the disclaimer on the Siri and Search? How can they be exploited?