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Well, UK poster here. (for a change!)

I've never seen anyone in the UK have a pod-based coffee maker (Tassimo / Keurig) in their kitchen. Remember UK kitchens are much smaller, and we don't have such a fetish of electronic kitchen gadets.

I only know one guy with an expresso machine in his kitchen, and he's from the USA anyway.

Almost never seen drip-based coffee sold in UK cafes.

Most most MOST people drink instant coffee at home and work. The usual crap. Nescafe or whatever.

Older people will make filter coffee at home, using a plastic thing that sits on top of your cup, with a paper filter in it. That's the only thing we have room for in our kitchens.

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Did I mention we have small kitchens? UK fridges only have one door on them, and they're not walk-in style. Often, they will fit under the counter, about the same size as a washing machine or cooker. And yes, our washing machines and cookers are smaller too.

Some people use cafetieres at home:
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They're quite common, but tend to stay at the back of the kitchen cupboard. (It's easier to make an instant.) We don't call them French Presses. That sounds slightly rude here - kinda like a French Letter :)

Argos just put a notice on their website saying they don't sell cafeteries :) Woolworths had some nice ones, but they've gone bust now. You could try just going up and down the shops on your local high street. Local mixed-goods shops will have them (any shop that sells pots and pans will do).

I have a one-cup one which I use most, and a 3 cup one that is a bit too big for my kitchen (yes like most english people, I have a tiny kitchen) but I use it when friends come over. (the girlfriend doesn't drink coffee, but she likes the smell of it.)

My spanish and italian friends don't trust the English way of making coffee and will bring this

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with them and guard it with their lives. I don't really know the name of it in English. It opens into three compartments. Coffee goes in the smallest one, in the middle, water in the bottom, and the whole thing goes on the stove top, hob or gas ring. Water boils in the bottom and steam goes through the coffee and into the top. Damn nice.

Putting decent coffee in whatever machine you use is important but not to get obsessive about it. Just get the most expensive of whatever your supermarket has. Generally about £5-£7 for 500 grams and will last a long time. I always drink fair trade or organic. No need to support slavery with your daily drink.

If you are in London, Monmouths do the best coffee beans. http://www.monmouthcoffee.co.uk/ I often see their beans in other hippy shops.

My father drinks his cofffee the old fashioned way - a big handful of ground coffee shaken into his cup, pour boiling water on, wait 30 seconds and drink. No milk or sugar. Blimey. I always pour mine with milk first then coffee second. Tastes smoother to me. No sugar. Sometimes honey.
 
strength of caffienne is in the volume of coffee and not the waiting time??

Strength of caffeine depends on the roast:

The lighter the roast, the MORE caffeine there is in the coffee.

The darker the roast, the LESS caffeine there is in the coffee.

Yes, I know that seems backwards to most people, but it's true. The reason is simple: The longer the coffee beans are roasted, the more caffeine is burned off of the beans.

If you want a coffee with a higher caffeine content, drink lighter roast coffees.

The exception (I guess) is espresso. Espresso is high in caffeine because of the way it is, well, brewed. The espresso is ground very finely and packed tight into the filter area, and hot water is forced through it at high pressure. Because of this, the espresso shot that is pulled has a higher level of caffeine in it compared to if you were to brew the same coffee grinds in a normal drip brewer.

Of course, the more grinds that you put into the filter when you brew coffee, the stronger tasting it will be and, yes, it will have more caffeine in it as well.
 
Brew just means to let it sit in water?

In some coffee-making methods, sure. The French Press is a literal "sit in the hot water", whereas a percolator typically cycles the water through the coffee grounds (acting like a drip) and runs for a fixed time...the longer it perks, the stronger the coffee will get. For drip and espresso, the water only gets a single pass through, so the brew cycle is typically much shorter.


So espresso beans are diff to regualr coffee beans?

The actual beans, absolutely not.
How dark the roast, maybe. Some people say yes, others no.
How the beans are ground, yes. (Espresso = fine grind)

ABOUT STRENGTH AND TASTE
Is this correct?:
- if you want stronger coffee, you use MORE coffee
.........so whats this about the wait time, brew time, does this just affect the taste? and nothing to do with strenth?

With Tea, the longer we leave the tea bag in the hot water and sqeeze it around with a spoon, the stronger the tea is.........

Stronger coffee comes from getting more "stuff" out of the ground bean dissolved into the water. From a basic chemistry standpoint, you either use more coffee surface area or more time of exposure. On brewing methods where you can't easily increase the time, this means that you either use more coffee...or a finer grind. If you're buying pre-ground, you can't change the grind size, so you simply use more.

For taste, there's a lot of things you can read about how to not brew a coffee that tastes bitter.

When i used to make nescafe, i used to use around one and half spoons of coffee (strong) (one cup) ....but now im using the ground coffee "tea bags"...im finding the TASTE MUCH BETTER...but i find myself having two cups....maybe thats cause one is not strong enough? .....

IMO, probably not. You're probably having more because it tastes better.

strength of caffienne is in the volume of coffee and not the waiting time??

How much caffeine is in a cup is a function of how much was in the bean and then how strongly it was brewed. As Surely noted, the darker the roast, the more of the caffeine chemical is destroyed before you even grind it or brew. You can compensate some by then brewing a stronger cup, but you might not like the stronger taste.

-hh = im impressed and greatful for that in depth response. So i boil the water in a kettle, and let the water cool down for a few seconds before making the coffee?

for a French Press, this is pretty much the process. Take the now-hot water and fill up the Press..best to have your ground coffee already in it. I usually then insert the plunger and push it down just enough to make sure that all the grounds get submerged so that they'll be wet and do their chemical transfer thing. Watch & wait until you think its the right color...maybe move the plunger partially down & up to help stir...and then push it down all the way and pour off the coffee into your mug/cup. In general, you don't want to let the coffee continue to sit in the press because it will continue to be in contact with the grounds and thus will continue to brew (to some degree).

FWIW, for other types of coffee makers, you typically just use room temperature water and the machine has a built-in heating element.

"the grind is very very fine, so it makes for a higher concentration level."
So the more finer the coffee is grounded, the more like an espresso is the effect/result?

Yeah, I think that that's a reasonable conclusion. However, do be aware that non-espresso systems aren't really set up to deal with really fine grinds, so their filters are likely to clog up and cause mischief.

Microwave to boil water? I thought hob was always the recommended and safe way to heat water to be drunk...? Kettle is what i use..electric kettle.....

(hob = ??) I simply use the microwave because it is quick, easy and minimal mess...I don't use teakettles because our local water supply has an incredibly high calcium level ... my Mom's kettle would accumulate around a 1/2" of scale buildup every ~6 months, and it was one of my chores to take a knife and try to knock chunks loose before we would give it a good vinegar soak. It continues to give me headaches with my espresso machine.

So course ground coffee = normal coffee
Finely grinded coffee = espresso

Correct.


I dont think i wanna drink instant coffee ever again.
Instant coffee is just that stuff you add water to and youre ready to drink?

And that's the slippery slope you run into once you've learned to appreciate a really good cup of coffee. The good news is that a brewing method such as a French Press hardly takes any more time than instant, and it tastes appreciably better.


-hh
 
Well, UK poster here. (for a change!)

I've never seen anyone in the UK have a pod-based coffee maker (Tassimo / Keurig) in their kitchen. Remember UK kitchens are much smaller, and we don't have such a fetish of electronic kitchen gadets.

I only know one guy with an expresso machine in his kitchen, and he's from the USA anyway.

Almost never seen drip-based coffee sold in UK cafes.

Most most MOST people drink instant coffee at home and work. The usual crap. Nescafe or whatever.

Older people will make filter coffee at home, using a plastic thing that sits on top of your cup, with a paper filter in it. That's the only thing we have room for in our kitchens.
Sorry, but I disagree. Pretty much everyone I know has some sort of coffee machine in their kitchen (even one guy who doesn't like coffee) whether it be espresso, filter or bean to cup machine. I guess you don't go in many home accessory stores, otherwise you'd notice most, if not all, sell a wide range of coffee machines, as they've become ever more popular over the past 10 or so years.
As for coffee at work, every office I've worked in has had some alternative to instant coffee, whether it be a bean to cup or filter machine, or in one case a Costa coffee shop downstairs
 
Some people use cafetieres at home:
They're quite common, but tend to stay at the back of the kitchen cupboard.

Exactly how many UK homes do you go into and monitor their coffee making methods:confused:

People are over-complicating it for the poor OP. Just get down to a decent sized Tesco, they will have everything you need at a reasonable price (with the possible exception of the grinder).
 
various people said:
various stuff

Guess it depends on your friends - are they home-owners or renters, do you live in the city or suburban, and your job history - in established companies with nice offices or in struggling startups / charities with cheap offices?

As you can guess, I'm in the lower money categories :cool:
 
Guess it depends on your friends - are they home-owners or renters, do you live in the city or suburban, and your job history - in established companies with nice offices or in struggling startups / charities with cheap offices?
Both, both and both :)
 
You guys are doing it wrong.

Here is the correct procedure:

1. You tell a woman to get you some coffee.
2. You drink the coffee.
 
You guys are doing it wrong.

Here is the correct procedure:

1. You tell a woman to get you some coffee.
2. You drink the coffee.

lol
ive tried it, doesnt work, ONLY I CAN MAKE MY COFFEE, as i change the volume of sugar or milk or coffeemate or coffee amount depending on how i feel at the time....i gotta prepare my own coffee...its too important to let it get messed up as im grumpy in the morning anyway...

(ill reply more to others later on)
 
I prefer using a french press with all kinds of roasts.
It makes your interact more with the coffee.
It creates a great aroma, and the wait time creates an anticipation.

As far as the caffeine issue goes with dark roasts versus light roasts, it's an argument that has two sides. If going by weight, dark roasts have more caffeine than light roasts (because they have less water moisture from longer roasting and therefore take more beans to weigh the same), but by volume light roasts have more.
(http://www.roastmagazine.com/backissues/janfeb2005/caffeinecontrol.html)

Espresso, is a term for coffee beans that are always a darker roast and is brewed using an espresso machine that forces water through a fine grind of the dark roasted coffee beans. To create about one fluid ounce (one shot) of espresso, about 4 tablespoons of water are forced through at high pressure and temperature through about 1/2 a tablespoon of ground beans.

For brewed coffee, it's recommended to use 2 tablespoons of ground coffee per cup of water (16 tablespoons). So basically the same ratio of 1:8, coffee to water. Because of the same ratio of coffee to water, and if using the same roast of bean, the caffeine amount comes out to about the same per serving size give or take - usually in the neighborhood of 100 mg for 2 ounces of espresso versus 8 ounces of brewed coffee. However, from what I've read, smaller concentrated doses of caffeine are absorbed faster into the body than larger doses - so perhaps that's why it seems to have a larger kick to many people. Plus people trend to drink espresso shots very quickly while others tend to sip at larger cups of coffee.

Everyone is different and has different taste palates so it's important for you to try different methods and different roasts to find the perfect one for you.
 
Another vote for the french press. My complaint about most "coffee makers" is that the water temperature is inconsistent, take up too much counter space and they are hard to keep clean, both the water tank and the drip section. I have never seen a drip coffee maker produce the crema that the simplest press can produce.
 
I have always used my Italian coffee maker when making for me


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and cafetiere when making coffee for guests.

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I've never heard of a French Press is that the American name for the cafetiere.

Posted from a bed in Scotland. A long way from Tim Hortons donuts.
 
I have always used my Italian coffee maker when making for me

I've never heard of a French Press is that the American name for the cafetiere.

Yes a French Press is a cafetiere. Us Americans call it a French press instead of using the French word, much like you Brits call it an Italian coffee maker instead of using the Italian - caffettiera. ;)
 
Yes a French Press is a cafetiere. Us Americans call it a French press instead of using the French word, much like you Brits call it an Italian coffee maker instead of using the Italian - caffettiera. ;)

so

- french press
- cafetiere
- italian coffee maker or caffatteira

are all exactly the same thing????
 
Language, what a wonderful thing. We should all get together with our cups of coffee and discuss the differences between a biscuit and a cookie, chips and fries/frittes and crisps. :D
 
I have always used my Italian coffee maker when making for me

That's the one coffee maker I've never tried/owned. I'd really like to get one.
  • I have my preferred cafetieres and I'd never be without them
  • I also have a Philips filter machine (is that what people are referring to as 'drip coffee' on this thread?) which is good for making large quantities such as when having guests for dinner. You can just set it going and leave it while you 'entertain'
  • I have a single cup filter thing which I use occasionally if I can only get pre-ground coffee such as decaf
  • I have a cheap Kenwood espresso machine. Waste of time, doesn't produce a crema, takes up too much space and is a pain to clean. It's in the cupboard and I haven't used it for about two or three years (ebay beckons)
  • I'm also quite fond of the standard paper Melitta-type filter kits, the type you always get in your holiday apartments in the Med. Maybe it's the holiday atmosphere but they always seem to make good coffee
However, I've never tried the traditional Italian type - is that called a percolator? Gonna have to get one of those.
 
so

- french press
- cafetiere
- italian coffee maker or caffatteira

are all exactly the same thing????

French press = cafetiere
Italian coffee maker = caffetiera
but a French press ≠ an Italian coffee maker

They all make coffee but as covisio just pointed out ^^^^^
the Italian coffee maker is a percolator, which means water boils in a bottom chamber, the steam rises through the coffee grind and extracts the flavors, then it condenses in the upper chamber as coffee.

Pretty damn cool invention when you think about it.
 
BODUM website doesnt really explain much with alot of their products:

Can someone please explain what these are....well, the difference....:

- Brazil (simple affordable press)
- Bistro Nouveau
- Kenya
- Crema
- Shin Bistro
- Filtre Belgique Set


i think ive narrowed it down to brazil.....bistro nouveau...... kenya........crema.....are all these exactly the same? and they just look different with different "names"? they are all french presses, right?
 
I have always used my Italian coffee maker when making for me


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and cafetiere when making coffee for guests.

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I've never heard of a French Press is that the American name for the cafetiere.

Posted from a bed in Scotland. A long way from Tim Hortons donuts.


Anything more expensive than the Bialetti coffee maker or a cheap copy thereof is a total waste of money and pain in the neck to clean.

As for the much vaunted quality of Indonesian coffee I never encountered it there. Indonesian tea is lovely though.
 
Can someone please explain what these are....well, the difference....:
- Brazil
- Bistro Nouveau
- Kenya
- Crema
- Shin Bistro

All of these above are French Presses (Cafetieres) - the two differences are the design and amount of cups/ounces each can hold.


- Filtre Belgique Set
This is actually a single cup drip brewer. You put the grind in the top and add hot water. The water saturates the grind and eventually drips into the cup.
 
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- Filtre Belgique Set
This is actually a single cup drip brewer. You put the grind in the top and add hot water. The water saturates the grind and eventually drips into the cup.

thanks.

the filtre set thing...... so i can use ground coffee yeah?

the water will instantly start pouring though the filter? or do i controll how long i want to brew it for??
 
bob..... I think you've squeezed this thread for as much as it's going to give you. :eek:

Just thought I'd tell everyone that this thread inspired me to buy a Bodum French Press and to retire my Mr. Coffee (the warmer was starting to rust anyway, and only after 1.5 years of use. WTH is that?). I bought the 8 cup press at Starbucks, because a friend of mine works there and he used his employee discount of 30% for me. Ah the perks..... I get free drinks there all the time too.

This one, actually:
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I made my first cup this morning with it...... now this is how coffee is supposed to taste. It took around the same amount of time to make as well, with only a couple of quick extra steps involved.

Back to my coffee and another sunny day in LA.
 
"Surely", no this thread can def be squeezed for more.

Sorry to all those who i have not responded to yet.
I plan to re-read the last few pages and discuss further in due time.

Bought a Bodum french press last week. Online.
today they said "Your order left our warehouse in Denmark on Thursday 2.7.09, so delivery will be the early part of next week at the latest via Royal mail"...

Can you believe that?!?!?!?! two weeks to deliver. From denmark to UK.
I wish i would have got off ebay. Hate this waiting period. the online shop was even on the UK section..grr
 
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