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Coffeeshops here will have you believe apple is #1
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I have a High Sierra laptop backpack, short(ish - it needs cut) hair, and I'm wearing cargo pants, a lumberjack shirt and asics sneakers. I wear glasses but they have narrow metallic frames. What kind of computer should I be using?mrzeve said:
(And don't bother with the comments about what I should be wearing)
My local coffee hang out is about 30%....which makes me happy being the only Apple guy in town.
My little "mini monopoly"
My little "mini monopoly"
Yes. But then again, I'm also in Berkeley right now.WillMak said:
It was a bit of a shock when I started at UC Berkeley last year. I transferred from a junior college where I knew of maybe two other Mac users and now I walk around campus or sit in the library and there are aluminum or white Apple laptops all over this place!
Here you go Chuck ... just for you ...
"Only whiny liberals use Mac."
I wear a dark suit, white shirt, boring tie, shiny black shoes.
Does that mean I should use a Thinkpad?
Or maybe paint the PB black and go incognito.
"Only whiny liberals use Mac."
I wear a dark suit, white shirt, boring tie, shiny black shoes.
Does that mean I should use a Thinkpad?
Or maybe paint the PB black and go incognito.
Josh said:
Or could it be that they ARE designers, or otherwise employed in some creative field? Designers are bred on Macs, and the design field is huge on freelance. ie, people who could literally make a coffee shop their office (See> Delicious Monster). BTW, who says they have to be 'working on work?' Seems to me they all have one common goal- leaching internet access. I'd never set foot in a Starbucks EXCEPT to use their internet. And if they ARE designers, why would they have/need to work some place quiet? My office has some pretty damn loud music going most of the day.
But you know, stereotyping is fun, I guess.
Well at coffeeshops(which i do not travel into very often and only see in passing) I'd say I see about 50/50. However as a frame of reference since my freshmen year hear in Pittsburgh. I have seen the Mac in all of the campus computer labs get more and more use, now the few macs they do have in the selected labs around campus are always filled and you can only find open Dell or Gateway PC's. I do need to however mention that there are many many more PC's in these labs then Apples so I'm not sure of the break down on campus.
One thing that bothers me is the fact that have gotten 3 or 4 different and upgraded versions of PC's CAMPUS-WIDE and they still have the same iMac's the keyboards are starting to get dingy which kinda makes me mad, because well the G4's with yellow'd keyboard, loose monitors(G4 iMac), and frankly slow performance, can't compete with the 2.5 or 2.7 Ghz P4's with DVD-R and so on and so forth.
One thing that bothers me is the fact that have gotten 3 or 4 different and upgraded versions of PC's CAMPUS-WIDE and they still have the same iMac's the keyboards are starting to get dingy which kinda makes me mad, because well the G4's with yellow'd keyboard, loose monitors(G4 iMac), and frankly slow performance, can't compete with the 2.5 or 2.7 Ghz P4's with DVD-R and so on and so forth.
Josh said:
Actually, I find I work better with a decent amount of background noise. Give me a paper to write and a choice between the library and Starbucks, I'll take the coffee shop.
I just think that powerbooks and ibooks are simply more conducive than their PC counterparts to bringing around to coffee shops. Mac users generally seem to just enjoy working on the computer more than Windows users (understandable). I do happen to frequent coffee shops with my PowerBook, except its usually in my regular levis jeans and an old tee shirt.
I bought a new ibook and gave my old one to my gf who goes to ucla. She says in the 2+ weeks that she has had it, she has not seen another ibook in school or in Westwood. All she sees are powerbooks, mostly 15's with a 17 sprinkled in there every so often. She feels poor using "only" an ibook, and a hand me down one at that.
Le Big Mac said:
I work in a corporate business environment. I have a beautiful T41 Thinkpad at work that is purposefully crippled (no wireless ability) becasuse my company is worried about network security concerns. The network admins won't even let me install a wi-fi card for when I'm working at home.
I usually get coffee from the coffee bar in my building and then go back to my desk...what does that say about me?
THIS IS SO TRUE!ITASOR said:There's always people with TiBooks in Panera Bread (free wireless). It's like a TiBook magnet place.
If the people in this thread believe that iBook/PowerBook users are fake poser show-off wannabe-designer trendies when they go to coffee shops with their 'Book to act jaded and make an appearance... then I can say that people who use iBooks/PowerBooks at Panera Bread are obviously just those with discriminating tastes. Great bread, great computers, great people. ;P
Don't you love ridiculously specious logic like this, folks?
i use my PB at Starbucks instead of the library simply because the baristas are hot and the librarians are not.
I use a PB instead of my work Dell there simply because I want to be able to get work done.
Plus, the 12" screen makes it easier to see the baristas.
About 20% Macs in Andover.
I use a PB instead of my work Dell there simply because I want to be able to get work done.
Plus, the 12" screen makes it easier to see the baristas.
About 20% Macs in Andover.
Can't speak much of the coffee shop near me, I don't think they offer wireless
But in terms of my university, I see about 10% macs, a few ibooks (mostly 14s) and 12 and 15" pbs. It's especially noticable in my classes. In my business class I am the only one with a mac (I even used it to do a keynote today, just closed the dell that everyone else was using and put my little book on top and spanned the presentation through the projector (the dell couldn't even span ). In my urban studies class though there are 2 other guys with ibooks, one 12 and one 14.
So I guess that means I'm not hanging out in the right coffee shops or macs are just startign to grow out here in Calgary...
But in terms of my university, I see about 10% macs, a few ibooks (mostly 14s) and 12 and 15" pbs. It's especially noticable in my classes. In my business class I am the only one with a mac (I even used it to do a keynote today, just closed the dell that everyone else was using and put my little book on top and spanned the presentation through the projector (the dell couldn't even span
). In my urban studies class though there are 2 other guys with ibooks, one 12 and one 14. So I guess that means I'm not hanging out in the right coffee shops or macs are just startign to grow out here in Calgary...
I live in Shanghai. While Apple Experience Centres and iPod Stores litter the electronics malls here, the rest of the place will be running on Windows. Go into a coffee shop or Starbucks, and if you see someone using a Mac, chances are he/she won't be native Chinese.
iPods are ridiculously popular here though.
iPods are ridiculously popular here though.
Macs in China
Hey,
Just thought that I would through in my .02. Here in China (Xi'an), I don't see mac's too often...I look though. I did find the Apple recommended "service" center the other day, though...pretty interesting find right there.
Mac's are starting to make their presence known here, and I think that it is due to the sales of the Ipods. The ipods here have become a pretty lucrative item, even being sold at department stores. The prices are much worse than the states, yet people continue to buy them.
I am hoping this drives more and more people to look at purchasing Apple hardware.
The problem here is that if you pay anything for your OS, or software...you are paying more than the local Windows users...
Plus, the price factor plays in when younger (read "less afluent") people look to buy a computer solution.
I really think that a place like China (maybe India/Russia as well) could really start to change Apple worldwide because of products like the Mac Mini. This is a great idea for getting their foot into the door of these developing countries where people want to check email, do something with an office application, or maybe view some digital pictures. I think that if Apple started to push these products here, it could have implications back in the United States.
This has happened recently with the governement signing contracts with Red Flag (Linux) instead of using Windows...Windows lost out big time on that one.
If you read this, I am sorry...just had sooo much to say.
Hey,
Just thought that I would through in my .02. Here in China (Xi'an), I don't see mac's too often...I look though. I did find the Apple recommended "service" center the other day, though...pretty interesting find right there.
Mac's are starting to make their presence known here, and I think that it is due to the sales of the Ipods. The ipods here have become a pretty lucrative item, even being sold at department stores. The prices are much worse than the states, yet people continue to buy them.
I am hoping this drives more and more people to look at purchasing Apple hardware.
The problem here is that if you pay anything for your OS, or software...you are paying more than the local Windows users...
Plus, the price factor plays in when younger (read "less afluent") people look to buy a computer solution.
I really think that a place like China (maybe India/Russia as well) could really start to change Apple worldwide because of products like the Mac Mini. This is a great idea for getting their foot into the door of these developing countries where people want to check email, do something with an office application, or maybe view some digital pictures. I think that if Apple started to push these products here, it could have implications back in the United States.
This has happened recently with the governement signing contracts with Red Flag (Linux) instead of using Windows...Windows lost out big time on that one.
If you read this, I am sorry...just had sooo much to say.
I wonder how many minutes those people with laptop stay at a coffee shop. I am a brew-your-own coffee type of person and I only visited Starbucks several times only (there are so many here in NY/NJ areas) in my life. I am also anal about the surface I put my notebook computer as I don't want to put it on the dirty surface. I feel there should be some spillages of milk, coffee, sugar, and etc on those tables in the coffee shop.
For computing duties in the public places such as restaurant and coffee shop (for that matter), I bring my work Dell PC. Once time, a waitress spilled dressing on my work PC causing the complete replacement of HD, screen, keyboard, and mother board (it was under incidental warranty my company subscribes to). I mostly keep my Macs at home (except my iBook, which comes with me a few times a week or when I travel on business).
For computing duties in the public places such as restaurant and coffee shop (for that matter), I bring my work Dell PC. Once time, a waitress spilled dressing on my work PC causing the complete replacement of HD, screen, keyboard, and mother board (it was under incidental warranty my company subscribes to). I mostly keep my Macs at home (except my iBook, which comes with me a few times a week or when I travel on business).
The rare occasions I actually use my Powerbook in public I feel a little uncomfortable and slightly embarrassed, not sure why though.
Might be I like to keep a low profile.
Not even the envious glances from non-Apple laptop users helps eleviate the feeling.
Might be I like to keep a low profile.
Not even the envious glances from non-Apple laptop users helps eleviate the feeling.
Josh said:
So ummm. Where to start?
For example, most cafes are wireless hot spots. I personally haven't gotten cable or broadband at my home (trying to hold out as long as i can) and sometimes after photo events, I have the need to upload my photos to my client site. I could go to my office 25 minutes away OR I could go to a cafe, one of the many around here, and use a hot spot.
Unfortunately, Josh, I wear thick black glasses, a messenger bag and shirts with ties, but only because I believe in being presentable and professional are parts of my job. And yes, I use a Mac. Not because I give enough of a **** to care to show off, but rather because my main work computer is a mac, and i like the idea of a "consistent" platform for my work.
And I can't say that I ever bother to notice what computers anyone else is using, if only because i'm generally there with a task and wish to complete said task efficiently and quickly.
That said, there once was this cute girl using a 17" pb and I'm pretty sure she was on ichat via rendezvous....
PDX has one up on most
I'd say that Portland, OR's ratio is 80/20 for the Mac. I think that has a lot to do with there being more graphic designers than there are jobs for graphic designers. With that said, they have little to do but sit in the coffee shop and wait for jobs to pop up on the internet. Who knows, with the whole snowboard industry practically moving here they might just find something eventually!
I'd say that Portland, OR's ratio is 80/20 for the Mac. I think that has a lot to do with there being more graphic designers than there are jobs for graphic designers. With that said, they have little to do but sit in the coffee shop and wait for jobs to pop up on the internet. Who knows, with the whole snowboard industry practically moving here they might just find something eventually!