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Coffeeshops here will have you believe apple is #1
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At the Tysons Panera it's about 25/30% Mac. At the Arundel Mills Panera, it's about 1 Mac, 0 PCs. I think a lot of what you see depends on what is nearby. If the Panera is by the mall and a couple businesses are a good distance away, you tend to get people who come in, eat, and leave.
Me? I ususally only take my PB in when I'm studying. Of course, I would probably fit the mold of someone who just wants to be seen with their PB. Plain wire glasses, thermal style shirts (it's usually a bit chilly around finals), jeans, and moccasins/boots (depending on the weather). I guess I'm jsut trying to hard to be comfortable and have crossed into trying too hard to be cool.
Me? I ususally only take my PB in when I'm studying. Of course, I would probably fit the mold of someone who just wants to be seen with their PB. Plain wire glasses, thermal style shirts (it's usually a bit chilly around finals), jeans, and moccasins/boots (depending on the weather). I guess I'm jsut trying to hard to be comfortable and have crossed into trying too hard to be cool.
Hey, even that 17" is still a little portable, altho' I am eyeing smaller laptops. It's just as portable as the regular sized PC laptops ^^gekko513 said:
In my public health classes, I'd say the proportion of Mac to Windows laptops would be around ... 70/30. iBooks seem quite popular nowadays.
You know what I think?
I think 96% of the statistics in this thread were made up on the spot.
While Josh seems to be the most quoted person in a thread in history, I think you and Josh both have a point, whether people like to admit it or not. Lots of Mac users got a Mac because it's trendier, and guess what people who enjoy being trendy like to do? Oh yes, show off their trendiness.
I think people at MacRumours will be the "exceptions to the rule" because if we only got our computers because they were trendy, we wouldn't spend so much time on a message board devoted to Macs. We wouldn't care so much about them if we bought them as trendy accessories. That's not what they are for us.
And it doesn't mean you need to wear the square framed glasses, long hair combed to one side, the jeans and crappy-looking suit jacket (chosen to look like that on purpose, of course) + t-shirt. There are different types of "looks/trends" that walk into a coffee shop to show off their Macs. Lots of these people may not want to admit it, but I think you'll find a lot people will look around the room before they pull out their Mac.......feel a little proud..... while they see that everyone else is on a generic looking WinXP laptop.
I think 96% of the statistics in this thread were made up on the spot.
mrzeve said:
While Josh seems to be the most quoted person in a thread in history, I think you and Josh both have a point, whether people like to admit it or not. Lots of Mac users got a Mac because it's trendier, and guess what people who enjoy being trendy like to do? Oh yes, show off their trendiness.
I think people at MacRumours will be the "exceptions to the rule" because if we only got our computers because they were trendy, we wouldn't spend so much time on a message board devoted to Macs. We wouldn't care so much about them if we bought them as trendy accessories. That's not what they are for us.
And it doesn't mean you need to wear the square framed glasses, long hair combed to one side, the jeans and crappy-looking suit jacket (chosen to look like that on purpose, of course) + t-shirt. There are different types of "looks/trends" that walk into a coffee shop to show off their Macs. Lots of these people may not want to admit it, but I think you'll find a lot people will look around the room before they pull out their Mac.......feel a little proud..... while they see that everyone else is on a generic looking WinXP laptop.
Moxiemike said:Unfortunately, Josh, I wear thick black glasses, a messenger bag and shirts with ties, but only because I believe in being presentable and professional are parts of my job. And yes, I use a Mac. Not because I give enough of a **** to care to show off, but rather because my main work computer is a mac, and i like the idea of a "consistent" platform for my work.
I know he didn't mean to offend. However, when Apple only has a very small bite of the market, and yet a large chunk of the "coffee-shop market," it does seem a bit odd, even factoring WiFi cards into the equation (that's the reason some people here gave, right?), because my two year old 12" Powerbook rev B didn't come with a wireless card either (although I bought one last year). iBooks didn't come with either until fairly recently, and by that time, so did all PC laptops.
In Fort Worth, Texas, there are many a pc user (In the local starbucks stores, about 1 mac in every 10 computers), but that is slowly changing. I do go to Panera and Starbucks alot to study, but I am not doing it just to look cool (looking cool is a byproduct of owning a mac, it is not something you have to try to do).
I think that when I see another mac user, It's nice to know there is someone else in the coffee shop that understands what it is like to own a mac. I look at it like a brotherhood. Since I got one, 4 of my friends have purchased macs. They now understand what it is like.
Maybe I'm overrating this, but Windows users can't bond like that because there are so many different choices of laptops, and that makes them non significant. There is no way they could feel the same way as we do when we see another mac across the room.
I think that when I see another mac user, It's nice to know there is someone else in the coffee shop that understands what it is like to own a mac. I look at it like a brotherhood. Since I got one, 4 of my friends have purchased macs. They now understand what it is like.
Maybe I'm overrating this, but Windows users can't bond like that because there are so many different choices of laptops, and that makes them non significant. There is no way they could feel the same way as we do when we see another mac across the room.
where i live tends to have hot spot coffee shops with at least half the users having a mac
but then again, in northern california, that is to be expected and there is some of that buy locally type of loyalty here...well, imagine if apple inc was in los angeles
but then again, in northern california, that is to be expected and there is some of that buy locally type of loyalty here...well, imagine if apple inc was in los angeles
m-dogg said:
It says that you don't bring your laptop to the coffee bar because you work in a corporate environment that has crippled your use of wireless access on a laptop.
What it says about the coffeeshop is that there's one less customer who will be showing off is beautiful PC laptop there.
I've been to the Lake Mary, FL Panera once. I frankly don't remember noticing any Macs, but really wasn't looking for them. I only remember one person outside our group with a laptop in the 8 hour period I was there and it was a PC.
The group I was with is a 3D graphics user group (Carrara), all creative professionals and small business owners. There were 3 straight PC guys, and 3 cross platform people, myself included. The other cross platform guys have G5s, but no Apple portable and I was using a Dell inspiron 600m. I have an iBook G4, but it's so pokey that mostly it's a portable DVD player for the kids these days.
The group I was with is a 3D graphics user group (Carrara), all creative professionals and small business owners. There were 3 straight PC guys, and 3 cross platform people, myself included. The other cross platform guys have G5s, but no Apple portable and I was using a Dell inspiron 600m. I have an iBook G4, but it's so pokey that mostly it's a portable DVD player for the kids these days.
Abstract said:
Whatever the reason, I just love to go out and see people with Mac's! Who cares if they bought it to be trendy? They will fall in love with it and more than likely be a mac user for life! What does this mean for us? More cash infusion into Apple, and better products for us down the line.
I, too, wear shirts and ties. But the difference is I wear *dress* shirts and ties with *dress* pants and *dress* shoes.....I don't wear casual shirts with ties, with a jacket that is too small, jeans, and converse all stars...etc.Moxiemike said:Unfortunately, Josh, I wear thick black glasses, a messenger bag and shirts with ties, but only because I believe in being presentable and professional are parts of my job. And yes, I use a Mac. Not because I give enough of a **** to care to show off, but rather because my main work computer is a mac, and i like the idea of a "consistent" platform for my work.
The wish-wash of casual and formal in an attempt to appear as 'artsy' and 'ecentric' is what I am talking about - not just shirts and ties in general.
This pretty much sums it up:
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people aren't being pretentious when they use they're laptops in coffee shops. coffee shops just happen to be hotspots. so if you're in a city and want to check your email, where you gonna go? how bout the coffee shop on the corner. it's not showing off it's just checking your email.
get over the laptop envy.
get over the laptop envy.
ironMonkey said:
many years ago, using pagers were a showoff thing
then it was using cellphones
then laptops
but the show off factor of those gadgets was basically a phenomenon of the previous decade
The thread is a little old but,,,, I spent 6 weeks in central Europe and of the 2 dozen or so laptops I saw in use I'd say at least half if not maybe 60% were macs. It seemed a little strange to me but it would be interesting to see what Apple's market share in the new EU countries is.
I'm a bit late for this thread, but here in Newcasle (England) I've not seen many Mac out and about. Could be as coffee shops and things here are hotspots very oftern (from my experience) so people don't have that many places to use them.
One place I used to see a few though was in the park close to my school. We go there in the summer to hang out if we have no lessons, and there is almost always two or three guy with powerbooks there. I know that there was a few places where you could pick up a wireless network there (passworded and junk so we've never managed to make use of it) so I guess that they were makeing use of that on lunch breaks or what ever (there are a few office blocks close by).
One place I used to see a few though was in the park close to my school. We go there in the summer to hang out if we have no lessons, and there is almost always two or three guy with powerbooks there. I know that there was a few places where you could pick up a wireless network there (passworded and junk so we've never managed to make use of it) so I guess that they were makeing use of that on lunch breaks or what ever (there are a few office blocks close by).
i know i look cool when i bust out my 17" powerbook at the local coffee shop with free wifi...
jk.
na, i just love to go to the coffee shop, lounge around, drink some bangin latte's, and surf the web. i also dj up at this same coffee shop from time and time again. it's a lot of fun!
jk.
na, i just love to go to the coffee shop, lounge around, drink some bangin latte's, and surf the web. i also dj up at this same coffee shop from time and time again. it's a lot of fun!
Wombert said:
Some are and some aren't. Starbucks uses T-Mobile and charges for access. I think in general the big chains charge while independents are more likely to provide it free.
A friend was telling me that there are a number of free wi-fi places in Munich. There aren't any where you are?