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Combination PS4 and XDR display

kaiz

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Yes and No,

Yes, you can connect a PS4/PS5 to a capture card and output to XDR display.
No, you can not .
 
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I am also very interested in this question. Since the XDR is such an investment for some, it would be awesome if it could have an HDMI input.
Who knows; maybe PS5 will have usb-C
 
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xraydoc

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...you can connect a PS4/PS5 to a capture card and output to XDR display.
While technically correct, there would be enough delay/lag as to likely render many games difficult to play.

There's going to be no good way to connect a XDR display to anything but a modern Mac. It'll apparently work via USB-C off a current generation iPad Pro, but not sure if this is because the monitor supports USB-C video (obviously not at 6K) or if Apple specifically added support for the iPad Pro to the monitor.
 
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joevt

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If there's no DisplayPort output, then you need an HDMI to DisplayPort converter ($200 for HDMI 2.0 4K60, $60 for HDMI 1.4). I don't know if this will work with the PS4 or PS5 and the XDR. I did get 1080p from a PS4 through an HDMI 2.0 to DisplayPort adapter to a normal DisplayPort display (the PS4 only supports 1080p, need a PS4 Pro for 4K).

Then you need a DisplayPort to USB-C bidirectional cable.

People have successfully tested the following: the XDR display works from the USB-C (not Thunderbolt) port of an Nvidia RTX 2080 card in Windows and from a DisplayPort port (no USB) with the Moshi cable.
 
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Performat

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I got the Xbox One S with the XDR working over here, albeit only at 1080p. 4K isn’t supported and 1440p flickers, regardless of the color mode or refresh rate I pick.

I have the bidirectional USB-C to DP Moshi cable with the Club 3D HDMI to DP 1.2 active adapter (CAC-1331).


The Moshi cable also did well with a GTX 1080 inside an eGPU enclosure. The Nvidia card has a DP port and it worked as expected in games. I could only try it briefly and can’t remember if the max res was 5K or 6K. I’m receiving a 2070 Super in the coming days and will have more time to test, I can report back here if that’s of interest.

I tried the DeLock Bidirectional USB Type-C to DisplayPort Cable 8K cable, and I couldn’t get the XDR to turn on. Neither on the Xbox, nor on the GTX 1080 inside the eGPU.

 
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joevt

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I got the Xbox One S with the XDR working over here, albeit only at 1080p. 4K isn’t supported and 1440p flickers, regardless of the color mode or refresh rate I pick.

I have the bidirectional USB-C to DP Moshi cable with the Club 3D HDMI to DP 1.2 active adapter (CAC-1331).
The CAC-1331 is new. I only heard of it recently. It's supposed to be able to do 4K 60Hz. Do you mean that the Xbox One doesn't support 4K 60Hz or the adapter? Shame that it's not working well with the Xbox One even at only 1440p. I suppose testing it with a PC or Mac where you have more control over the output can help outline the capabilities and limitations of the adapter.

The Moshi cable also did well with a GTX 1080 inside an eGPU enclosure. The Nvidia card has a DP port and it worked as expected in games. I could only try it briefly and can’t remember if the max res was 5K or 6K. I’m receiving a 2070 Super in the coming days and will have more time to test, I can report back here if that’s of interest.
The 1080 doesn't support DSC so it probably only supports 5K. I know the 1080 can do 5K using HBR2 6 bpc RGB. Maybe the 1080 can use HBR3 to do 6K using 6 bpc RGB? I don't think I've seen anyone try that yet. Other tests didn't show that single link HBR3 was possible with the XDR? The only time the XDR uses HBR3 is when it's doing dual link SST over Thunderbolt 3 (for 6K on Macs that don't support DSC). I would like to see someone show otherwise.

I tried the DeLock Bidirectional USB Type-C to DisplayPort Cable 8K cable, and I couldn’t get the XDR to turn on. Neither on the Xbox, nor on the GTX 1080 inside the eGPU.
Very strange that the DeLock cable doesn't behave as well as the Moshi cable. They even claim VESA certification like the Moshi cable. The cable comes in 3 sizes: 0.5m, 1m, 2m
 
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Performat

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The CAC-1331 is new. I only heard of it recently. It's supposed to be able to do 4K 60Hz. Do you mean that the Xbox One doesn't support 4K 60Hz or the adapter?
The Xbox states that “4K isn’t supported on this monitor”, which doesn’t make sense, so I’m wondering if something isn’t lost in translation between USB-C and HDMI... I will try the HDMI port of the 2070 Super and see how it plays out, but I suspect the Xbox to be the culprit. I’d be curious to see how the PS4 behaves, but I don’t have one handy.

Very strange that the DeLock cable doesn't behave as well as the Moshi cable. They even claim VESA certification like the Moshi cable. The cable comes in 3 sizes: 0.5m, 1m, 2m
I’m a bit baffled too. I was fairly confident it would work given that it also has the VESA certification... I had the 2m version FWIW. It’s an understatement to say that the XDR is finicky with its inputs.
 
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joevt

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The Xbox states that “4K isn’t supported on this monitor”, which doesn’t make sense, so I’m wondering if something isn’t lost in translation between USB-C and HDMI... I will try the HDMI port of the 2070 Super and see how it plays out, but I suspect the Xbox to be the culprit. I’d be curious to see how the PS4 behaves, but I don’t have one handy.
The gofanco and SIIG HDMI 2.0 to DisplayPort converters have dip switches to choose an EDID (in case the EDID provided by the Club 3D adapter is not as expected by the Xbox). Maybe the Xbox expects a HDMI 2.0 timing (594 MHz pixel clock) but the Club 3D adapter is returning the 529 MHz timing from the XDR EDID (A CVT-RB timing for 4K is usually 533 MHz).

If the adapter tells the Xbox that it has a 594 MHz 4K timing, then the Xbox might be able to output 4K. But first, you need to check if the XDR can accept a 594 MHz 4K HDMI timing from DisplayPort of a computer. Otherwise, it's a moot point. If the XDR cannot accept 594 MHz, but the Xbox only outputs 594 MHz then I guess you could complain to Microsoft to make their graphics driver allow arbitrary 4K timings.

Maybe HDCP compatibility problem? The Club 3D product page says it supports HDCP1.4/2.2 so it should be sufficient.
 
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Performat

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I'm mostly interested in whether the Nintendo Switch could be connected to the XDR.. If this is possible, then I will definitely get one.
Unfortunately, I couldn’t get the XDR to turn on when plugged to the Nintendo Switch Dock Set with the Moshi cable and the CAC-1331 adapter. I returned the DeLock cable, so I can’t try with this one.

I’d be curious to try the SIIG or Gofanco converters, but these days it’s fairly hard to get one of those shipped to Germany with a decent return policy.
 
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throAU

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I'm mostly interested in whether the Nintendo Switch could be connected to the XDR.. If this is possible, then I will definitely get one.

Yeah because 1080p (sometimes less than that, upscaled) needs a 6k display :D


If (as I suspect) your post is actually sarcasm, well played, I LOLed :D
 
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Performat

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Yeah because 1080p (sometimes less than that, upscaled) needs a 6k display :D


If (as I suspect) your post is actually sarcasm, well played, I LOLed :D
You’re missing the point. The idea here is to use this one monitor with different inputs, instead of several monitors for several inputs.
 
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xraydoc

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You’re missing the point. The idea here is to use this one monitor with different inputs, instead of several monitors for several inputs.
You're forgetting this is an Apple product. They don't include multiple inputs because they don't want you to have multiple inputs. Otherwise they'd make it easy. Take it as a sign that Apple thinks each device you have should have its own $6,000 display.
 
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henrymyf

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Yeah because 1080p (sometimes less than that, upscaled) needs a 6k display :D


If (as I suspect) your post is actually sarcasm, well played, I LOLed :D
Sorry I didn't mean to play sarcasm... My point is, actually I do have a XDR in my office for my daily work use, but from time to time, other than connecting it to my MBP or Razer Blade, I keep thinking about using this screen for some sort of entertainment. If the idea of connecting it to Nintendo Switch does work, then the cost for me is just a couple of connectors. So when I said "I will definetely get one" I meant get a pair of connectors, not the XDR...
 
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henrymyf

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Unfortunately, I couldn’t get the XDR to turn on when plugged to the Nintendo Switch Dock Set with the Moshi cable and the CAC-1331 adapter. I returned the DeLock cable, so I can’t try with this one.

I’d be curious to try the SIIG or Gofanco converters, but these days it’s fairly hard to get one of those shipped to Germany with a decent return policy.
Then maybe the Switch doesn't have the video output power as strong as desktop consoles. I will just hold and watch.
 
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joevt

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Question: does the CAC-1331 work better with a display that is not the XDR? Maybe one with support for more resolutions?
 
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Performat

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Question: does the CAC-1331 work better with a display that is not the XDR? Maybe one with support for more resolutions?
I just tried the 27" LG UltraFine 5K, Xbox One S and same set of cables.

I've got 1440p working reliably, without any flicker unlike as with the XDR. Still no 4K though.
 
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joevt

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I just tried the 27" LG UltraFine 5K, Xbox One S and same set of cables.

I've got 1440p working reliably, without any flicker unlike as with the XDR. Still no 4K though.
I am thinking a PC display such as the Acer XV273K could be more forgiving than those displays that have no buttons or options.
 
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-narcan-

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am thinking a PC display such as the Acer XV273K could be more forgiving than those displays that have no buttons or options.

Yeah I’ve got an LG 5k but for my second monitor got a 27” UL850 4K, specifically so I could also connect the PS4 to it once done working.. works really well for that purpose.

Not as nice as the 5k of course, and in ideal world would have two of those, but always better going with something that’s designed more for your use case.
 
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GeekPandaCH

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No, why would you want to spend 6k on a console monitor. This pro xdr is for serious professional work in video and photo editing. I would recommend you to look at the LG 32UL950, which has a “similar” style as its borderless, it has 4K hdr and you can use your mac and also any console for 1/6 the price! Cheers!
 
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