Remember Verizon's Island of Unwanted Toys commercial? SJ does, and he holds a grudge. "No iPhone for you!"
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Confirmation of the Verizon (CDMA) iPhone Manufacturer?
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If you listen to the words, you'll notice that the commercial said nice things about the iPhone.
The ad bashed ATT, not Apple.
The 2011 iPhone will be "thinner" with a faster processor. Am I a credible rumor source now?
I predict that the 2021 iPhone will be only one molecule thick (just so Apple can prove they're capable of making such a device) and will be more powerful than the current top-of-the-line Mac Pro. However, after too many users slice off their fingers while trying to pick up the iPhone, Apple will revert to the retro 1-mm-thick 2020 case. Fanboys will complain that they don't want to pay top dollar for last year's case design, and if people can't learn to hold an iPhone without touching the edges, they're idiots. Mac Pro users will wonder when the Mac Pro will be updated to be as fast as the iPhone, whose processor surpassed the Mac Pro's processor in 2018. Haters will bash the iPhone in favor of the new Droid phone, which scores better on some tests by a few nanoseconds.
Where is the Beef?
There is no difference between this thread and the one about a week ago which covered the same subject. MacRumors could have saved a lot of typing a lot of server time and a lot of power by just reposting the old thread.
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There is no difference between this thread and the one about a week ago which covered the same subject. MacRumors could have saved a lot of typing a lot of server time and a lot of power by just reposting the old thread.
Nothing to see here folks, move along.
Which is the only real problem many have with the iPhone, and why this Verizon iPhone thing will never go away.
There used to be a time when AT&T was the only thing holding the iPhone back from being "the best" phone. Now, it's AT&T and a decent list of other things.
1. It'll still run on AT&T and their crappy 4.5G network
2. We'll still be asking if it'll come to Verizon and it's 6G network
3. AT&T's coverage map won't change
4. Replacing a lost iPhone Pico will cost $500.
5. When you say Mac Pro, you mean the early 2009 Nehalem model, which still hasn't been updated since . . . . . 2009. Apple just thought it was fast enough.
I can answer this one, Jim. You can't. Think of CDMA and GSM as FM and AM radio. Yes, they are similar as far as being radio, but unless you have an AM/FM radio, you cannot listen to both AM and FM stations.
If you have a CDMA only phone in a country that only has GSM coverage, you have an alarm clock. And vice versa.
Now they make "global" devices that have both chipsets in them. Just like an AM/FM radio. So if you are an international traveler, that would definitely be something to consider. Make sure it has both CDMA AND GSM chipsets.
http://support.vzw.com/faqs/International Services and Roaming/faq_international_cdma_roaming.html
apparently most current CDMA phones can utilize the GSM network when in international; and if this will have cdma/gsm perhaps itd be easier that way to switch without roaming charges?
No. Most of Verizon's phones are CDMA only. That means they will work in North America, and selected other countries. They will need a "global ready" device to use it in a GSM country as well
Yup, just like an AT&T (GSM) iPhone won't work in a CDMA coverage area. OK? Thanks!
A Verizon "world" Iphone with both CDMA and GSM would work in both.
Verizon sells many phones with "world phone" capabilities - especially the higher end smartphones.
It would be stupid for Apple not to make the CDMA Iphone with CDMA+GSM capabilities - but not inconsistent with many of Apple's recent irrational moves.
Actually, with the primary exception of the Palms and Droids, quite a few of Verizon's new smartphones over the past year or so have been dual mode CDMA + GSM/UMTS.
Imagio, Ozone, Touch Pro 2, Saga, Storm, Tour, and a handful of dumbphones as well.
I have another question: how do we use local SIMs overseas in the ATT iPhone? Answer, without unlocking, we can't. Best bet for long trips? Get a throwaway unlocked GSM non-iPhone.
OTOH, since many of Verizon's smartphones are dual mode CDMA+GSM/UMTS, and aren't SIM locked, they can be used more cheaply overseas. Heck, people have even used some of them here on ATT. Who would have thought?
I think Apple would prefer an all-LTE iPhone for one reason: battery life. If you have a combo CDMA/LTE iPhone, that would require more circuitry, and down goes the battery life per charge.
Yeah, having more than one radio protocol in a phone would be CRAZY!!! Almost like...oh...I dunno...Tri-band???
It was pretty cheezy, I wasn't on my best game yesterday.Yeah, having more than one radio protocol in a phone would be CRAZY!!! Almost like...oh...I dunno...Tri-band???
Take em back brother! I keep telling them, world phones with CDMA/GSM have existed and are still very common among carriers.
A Palm Treo from 2003 still has features the current iPhone doesn't have . . . . like CDMA/GSM and wireless syncing.
Could be.
Thanks for the info.
Based upon this, it looks like AT&T is working hard to improve support which is good.
This doesn't make sense to me.
It reminds me of how Apple introduced the iPod. First was Mac only and FW. Then there were Mac and PC versions. Then USB. Then USB that worked for both.
Apple learned a valuable lesson in logistics. Having a separate CDMA phone would be contrary to this. It would make more sense if they had ordered 10 million iPhones that also had CDMA capability.
Wow! I can't believe it's been almost a year since I posted last
Anywho, I really don't see the iPhone coming to Verizon...not yet, anyway. Especially with the way the Droid is eating up sales. If the iPhone goes over to Verizon, it'll have to compete against a red-hot Droid and share the market. It wouldn't have to do that with AT&T, and I could see Verizon being under the "Droid is selling well, we don't need you anymore." mentality.
Anywho, I really don't see the iPhone coming to Verizon...not yet, anyway. Especially with the way the Droid is eating up sales. If the iPhone goes over to Verizon, it'll have to compete against a red-hot Droid and share the market. It wouldn't have to do that with AT&T, and I could see Verizon being under the "Droid is selling well, we don't need you anymore." mentality.
Based upon this, it looks like AT&T is working hard to improve support which is good.
They are. I downloaded the AT&T app that lets you mark spots where you don't have service, and normally I get a simple "thanks". But a few days ago I got this:
AT&T Free Msg: AT&T appreciates your Mark the Spot feedback from Lebanon PA on 3/7/2010. We are pleased to inform you that we have a new cell site planned near your submission in the next 60-90 days. If you have any further comments or feedback, you may reply to this msg for free. Thank you, AT&T.
Needless to say, I'm extremely impressed.
That's PRECISELY the reason that Apple should want their product there as well....to counter those sales and not give Android an open season on Verizon customers with no real competition.
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Versus what? Giving up most of the Verizon market to the Android platform on a silver plate? They already share with Android devices on AT&T as well as internationally. There's no reason why they can't play ball and share somewhere else in the U.S. tool. Steve Jobs has never seemed the type to just give up and let a competitor steal his thunder unchallenged. I can't see him just letting Google walk away with Verizon's customers like that and continue to allow the Android platform to grab market share without a fight. But we shall see.