Actually, I was a Sprint customer on my personal line at that time. I let it expire and when I left the company I took my Verizon phone and made it a personal account. I then ported that number to AT&T. So in the past few years I've had smartphone experience on all 3 carriers. If I'm biased, it's bias based on a positive experience.
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Confirmation of the Verizon (CDMA) iPhone Manufacturer?
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Actually, I was a Sprint customer on my personal line at that time. I let it expire and when I left the company I took my Verizon phone and made it a personal account. I then ported that number to AT&T. So in the past few years I've had smartphone experience on all 3 carriers. If I'm biased, it's bias based on a positive experience.
We could jailbreak and unlock our almost new phones and sell them to cover the ETF and original cost. NO prob!
All of these people that think the Verizon data network is so slow have succumb to advertising. They didn't even pay attention either because it clearly shows that almost all but Luke Wilson's head shows up in the same time period.
The differences in speed (with optimal reception on both) may be noticable, but it's far from a painful experience on Verizon (it's actually pleasant in my experience). And unlike Edge, the calls come through when you are using data services. I really think people just don't know.
Looks like I should educate myself on SVDO.
Not a single person I hear complaining about the original iPhone complained about simultaneous voice and data. They complained about the piss-poor almost dial-up speed. AND, if the complained about voice and data, it was because they missed calls while in a data session. This doesn't happen on CDMA.
If I go 4G I can bring my iPhone where ever I go around the world... If I go CDMA useless
I may not have the freedom to use it ANYWHERE (actually, neither do you) but I used my CDMA phone on 3 of the 4 major international trips I've taken in the last 6 years.
Another false assumption (even I had assumed AT&T had handled more data...but I was wrong.)
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Ver...sage-than-AT-T-last-year-article-a_10763.html
Pegatron = ASUS
If both Verizon and AT&T got the iPhone wouldn't this create competition between the two as far as data plans and pricing? sounds good to me
Exactly! Same phones, price for the phones will likely be the same. Plan prices will have to go down in order to draw customers from one carrier to another, all things being equal. Most customers care more about how much the plan costs a month than coverage differences (if they aren't a sharp contrast).
You can use CDMA in plenty of countries, just not in Europe. Large parts of Asia have a CDMA backbone, Canada, Israel, Mexico, the Caribbean, India, large parts of South America..
A SIM card tray can exist on a primarily CDMA phone - look at the Blackberry Tour. It's called a global phone people, come on.
A SIM card tray can exist on a primarily CDMA phone - look at the Blackberry Tour. It's called a global phone people, come on.
Well, AT&T doesn't have a 4G network yet either, but it would be nice to see those two companies put out their updated networks sooner.
Well, upon reading the news, one would find that LTE isn't right about the corner. Last I check VZW wasn't putting up test sites until early 2012. The only cell company with working 4G is Sprint, everyone else will be waiting at least 3 more years.
With Apple it would have been $200 and a punch in the face.
True, but you being careful doesn't have anything to do with a phone being stolen, or damaged by someone else. I have insurance on all three phones on my plan.
No, AidenShaw is one of those people that likes to give people a fresh test of new perspective. It's okay to just save $5 every month and call it insurance, but it's not. I have myself, and know many others that have maxed out their insurance plans with other carriers.
We may be paying $6 a month for it, and after two years or more given close to $300, but we can get our smartphones replaced for free or for $100 if lost or stolen . . . . phones that cost $650 or more a piece . . . . and replaced multiple times in a year.
With AT&T (mostly Apple rules) you have to pay $200 no matter what, and if lost or stolen buy a new iPhone outright for $400 or more.
I don't get it. People outside the US have been enjoying unlocked iPhones and tethering, while we in the US are more interested in putting the iPhone on an even locked-down provider that is only usable in 1 country. Really? I rather see Apple made the iPhone with quad-UMTS-band supporting the 1700 band for T-Mobile 3G in addition to AT&T's 850 band, and sell the iPhone unlocked.
Where did you get that info? I read they have 2 cities tested and are ahead of schedule for 25-30 cities this year.
Verizon already announced plans to launch LTE in 25 to 30 cities by the end of this year. Verizon Wireless, a joint venture of Verizon Communications Inc. and Vodafone Group PLC, paid $4.7 billion in 2008 for the nationwide 700 MHz spectrum.
Earlier this year, Verizon's LTE was tested in Boston and Seattle. Those tests indicated the network is capable of peak downlink speeds of 40 to 50 megabits per second [Mbps] and peak uplink speeds of 20 to 25 Mbps. Verizon engineers report that in real-world environments, LTE average data rates of 5-12 Mbps on the downlink and 2-5 Mbps on the uplink. They are claiming most users will see 8Mbps on the downlink and 3Mbps on the uplink.
Granted, that would only cover about 100 million, but it is a start.
I can't find a single link that shows verizon holding off till 2012. Are you sure?
Really? Did you have a straight face while typing your statement? If 2 dozen friends don't complain then maybe you should just ask them if they are happy with the service.
All I ever hear is complaints, the best I hear is that the service is "ok" and then you get..."depends on where you are." Maybe your 2 dozen friends all live in a parallel universe where they have better service......
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If its CDMA ?
So if its CDMA can it still talk and surf at the same time?
I'm not sure if that was dependant of the OS or the type device being GSM or CDMA.
Kinda funny someone posted else where that Sprint was going to pick up the iPhone also.
So if its CDMA can it still talk and surf at the same time?
I'm not sure if that was dependant of the OS or the type device being GSM or CDMA.
Kinda funny someone posted else where that Sprint was going to pick up the iPhone also.
So if its CDMA can it still talk and surf at the same time?
I'm not sure if that was dependant of the OS or the type device being GSM or CDMA.
Kinda funny someone posted else where that Sprint was going to pick up the iPhone also.
It comes down to the chips inside the handset. Rev A evdo network can handle the svdo (talk and surf) spec.
Interesting.
I have read some articles in the past that stated words to the effect that AT&T had not planned on the rapid growth of data requirements from the iPhone and that the other networks would be affected in the same way.
This article seems to be contrary to that.
I guess we'll find out someday if the iPhone comes to Verizon.
Sorry, I was very ambiguous in my rant. I am sure that Verizon won't have wide spread voice and data rollout of LTE until early 2012.
There will be plenty of dongles and PC cards using it, and there will be a handset or two that can use 4G LTE data but not voice.
Not a huge issue IMHO, it's what Sprint did with their 4G back in 2008 and 2009 until they got a large enough network running to handle phones.
That can be found in most recent articles upon a Google Search.
I think it was just the way they worded it. The said they had XXX% increase in 3G network traffic over the last 3 years since the iphone started. When I looked back, I had a tough time finding how much data was being used to begin with, what the coverage of 3G was at the start and how many 3G handset were available. If 3G had a small footprint and there were few 3G device, of course you would see a big increase. You can twist the stats to sound good for just about anything. And they ALL do it, it's not just ATT. Always look where the data comes from and most important, what's the frame of reference.
Either way, I'm pretty sure CNET reported that Verizon would create CDMA/LTE devices compatible with both networks close to the release of LTE so that the CDMA users would be able to utilize the LTE. SO it is very likely that if a Verizon iPhone is made it will be compatible with both CDMA and LTE. Maybe not, but it's a possibility.
"LTE handsets will be introduced sooner than anyone had anticipated."
"Until a solution is complete, Verizon will use its CDMA network to provide voice services. And the LTE network will be used for data. Eventually, when voice over LTE becomes a reality, Verizon will use that technology."
So this would support the CDMA/LTE iPhone. LTE for Data, CDMA for voice, and voila, you have talk and surf.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_7-10453550-78.html?tag=mncol
If I was Verizon, I'd keep CDMA as the phone side for a solid 5 years for 2 reasons. One, it works well with really good capacity/scaling. Two, let everyone finish fighting over the voice over IP spec. CDMA (SVDO) phone, LTE/CDMA(SVDO) data. I wouldn't even think about voice on LTE until coverage is over about 150M.
Just my opinion (that and 1.79 will get you a cup of coffee)
I think Apple may decide NOT to offer a CDMA-compatible iPhone for two reasons:
1) CDMA does NOT support simultaneous voice and data communication. That right there could "break" parts of the iPhone OS, which was designed for GSM in the first place.
2) Verizon will soon start rolling out nationwide 3GPP LTE, which does support simultaneous voice and data communication. As such, Apple may hold off releasing an iPhone for the Verizon network until LTE is widely available in the major metropolitan areas--hopefully by middle 2011, when the fifth-generation iPhone will be rolled out.
1) CDMA does NOT support simultaneous voice and data communication. That right there could "break" parts of the iPhone OS, which was designed for GSM in the first place.
2) Verizon will soon start rolling out nationwide 3GPP LTE, which does support simultaneous voice and data communication. As such, Apple may hold off releasing an iPhone for the Verizon network until LTE is widely available in the major metropolitan areas--hopefully by middle 2011, when the fifth-generation iPhone will be rolled out.
Did you not just read my post 2 posts up?...... sigh. A CDMA/LTE iPhone would provide data on the LTE side and voice on the CDMA side.
Then explain the first iPhone.
+1. All of these people who post before thinking, or post because they think they know something is getting really annoying. I may be one of them, but when it is constant like this, its like "do you ever learn"?
I wish they'd just announce this so we wouldn't have to hear about it anymore.
The September timeframe for manufacture lines up with a like holiday launch for VZW. It also lines up with the iPad 4.0 OS release. The significance is that I think an incremental SDK release will be needed around the time the VZW phone releases...will they or won't they?
The September timeframe for manufacture lines up with a like holiday launch for VZW. It also lines up with the iPad 4.0 OS release. The significance is that I think an incremental SDK release will be needed around the time the VZW phone releases...will they or won't they?
I wonder why so many people, especially non-Verizon customers, come here and will rant and battle everyone in sight about the iPhone going to Verizon. What personal stake do you have in Apple going or not going to another carrier? If they do, it's good for both existing Verizon customers and people who don't get good AT&T coverage in their hometown. If they don't, then nothing changes. I just don't get why people tend to take this issue so personally.