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Carrier [Confirmed] Verizon Unlimited Loophole
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anyone here ever run into this problem- bought and activated iphone on dumb line. phone works and able to make/receive calls but when i go into myverizon to switch it back to the dumbphone its greyed out and i cant do anything. i also have an extra nanosim but i dont want to try to activate the iphone under my line until i could put the dumb phone back on the dumb line. any help would be appreciated! thanks!
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Hey guys, I posted in here (#179, 182...) way back when we thought doing Transfer Upgrade from an unlimited line to a non-unlimited line would get you tossed from the buffet. Failing to keep up with this thread I let my release day iPhone 5 sit there for a month unactivated while I toiled over what to do.
At that point it was automatically activated on the transfer-recipient non-unlimited line one morning. I called to deactivate it and reactivate the existing phone on the non-unlimited line, let the iPhone sit overnight, then activated on my unlimited line...what do ya know, I still have unlimited 2 weeks later (although the activation's billing period hasn't closed yet). Looking at the recent developments in this thread, it looks like being lazy and indecisive finally paid off!
Anyway, to explain everyone's Transfer Upgrade windfalls, I think it's because Verizon incorrectly foresaw more people transferring upgrades TO unlimited lines rather than transferring upgrades AWAY from unlimited lines and plotted to repeal as many unlimited plans as possible. Basically they couldn't have it both ways:
unlimitedA consuming B's upgrade removes unlimited on line A, AND
B consuming unlimitedA's upgrade removes unlimited on line A.
They chose the former: an unlimited line consuming its own upgrade or an upgrade transferred from another line will remove the unlimited data feature. Since they couldn't cripple two accounts for a single upgrade, this meant the converse must not be true: that an unlimited line's upgrade transferred to another line will not remove the unlimited feature on the original line.
Although it seems like a loophole, the policy as implemented may have actually been Verizon's best bet for wiping out as many unlimited plans as possible. Despite leaving the door open for some tomfoolery, it still seems to be the more aggressive option. If the company suspects that the consumers most likely to resist abandoning unlimited data are the same consumers most likely to upgrade to iPhone 5, then prohibiting their upgrade via inbound transfer from another user is more likely to deter the uninformed than prohibiting their upgrade via the outbound transfer of their own upgrade which must then be followed by subsequent activation, deactivation, and reactivation on the unlimited line.
In other words: if the 'Transfer Upgrade' method as we know it did actually cause the line transferring away an upgrade to lose unlimited data, then we would all be simply transferring our dumb lines' iPhone 5 upgrade directly to the unlimited line without repercussion, as the dumb line would be the one at risk of losing unlimited data. Allowing the outbound transfer of an unlimited line's upgrade is the cost Verizon had to pay for making the rest of you go through the hassle of upgrading on secondary lines rather than doing a direct upgrade transfer to your own line.
Consider a share plan with 2 lines, both unlimited. One has an eligible upgrade, the other line wants to consume the upgrade but keep its own unlimited plan. Which line should have to give up unlimited data (in Verizon's eyes)? If the upgrade-eligible line loses its data plan no matter who consumes the upgrade, then users just 'Transfer Upgrade', upgrade line #2 directly, keep unlimited, easy as pie. If the line that actually receives the transferred upgrade loses unlimited, line #2 would instead have to compel the eligible line #1 to execute the upgrade on line #2's behalf, activate the device on its own line, then reactivate its original device and physically transfer the new phone to the user of line #2. I'm not saying it's hard, it's just harder. It makes the more obvious method of gaming more disruptive and therefore a less likely scenario (although still extremely likely for the macrumors crowd). So on closer inspection, the observed policy is not inconsistent with Verizon trying to maximize its own profits at the expense of users' unlimited data plans. It need not be a computer glitch, a policy oversight, or some benevolent act to satisfy the superusers. They had to leave open one method or the other, and they chose to leave open the method that increases the headache and decreases the likelihood of gaming the system (even if ever so slightly in the context of what you're getting, in hopes there exists the marginal teenager who lacks sufficient parental bargaining power to let him attempt some convoluted scheme he read on the internet, on a phone bill he's already tanked once with all that dammed texting and vcast nonsense).
What is Verizon's alternative? You execute or transfer an upgrade and everyone loses unlimited data? What would that policy look like? Two or more contracts must be extended and re-signed on inferior terms for one new handset? It may not be an intensely competitive market, but I don't think Verizon could've sold that proposition en masse. Perceived inequity may be one of the few strong motivators for brand switching in a price-equivalent oligopoly.
Equipped with knowledge of these recent revelations, our mid-September beliefs appear retrospectively inconsistent, or at least intransitive, most likely grounded in our shared hypersensitivity toward losing unlimited data plans. The assumption was that upgrading one's own device kills unlimited data (reflexive, OK), also that transferring an unlimited line's upgrade to use on a dummy line kills unlimited (assumes the impact is on transfer originator), and finally an idea too farcical to have ever come up - transferring a dummy line's upgrade to use on an unlimited line kills unlimited (assumes the impact is on transfer recipient). Our belief was that no matter which way an upgrade crossed an unlimited data line the feature was revoked, even if it required an asymmetric application of policy to selectively benefit Verizon in each instance. Which is not to say that's an unreasonable belief to hedge against. Fortunately now, and the point of trying to unwind this initially ill-described system that was exposed only through trial-and-error and mutual information sharing, we have thus established a rational and internally consistent basis on which we can claim to have relied for decision making should the dear provider soon backpeddle and attempt to make good on the contents of upgrade transferors' emailed receipts rather than the dynamic content served during those frantic moments navigating the iconic order process.
Yet as it stands, everybody wins. Those investing the time and energy to research getting everything they want can do so, Verizon retains those users' business while stripping unlimited plans by the tens of millions from moms and pops in the middle 48 states who know not the glory of macrumors. Meanwhile marketing and legal are already in the conference room plotting to clean up more of those pesky legacy accounts next time around, knowing full well that the perfect trap does not exist but that some traps nonetheless work better than others. Recognizing this fact in advance - that the impossibility of a perfect contract implies they must always leave something on the table in pursuit of the majority - for us means the time is now to prepare for the siren song of September '13.
Committed to gorging myself on the 700 band for ages to come, I've already begun preparations for next year's showdown: I conduct 30 minutes of 'Genius' practice in the mirror each day and have befriended a tri-generational Bohemian neo-mennonite family (with eighteen upgradeable flip phones they want to keep
!). The rest of the plan will require a microwave magneto core and a skilled ALGOL programmer, though not for his or her skills in ALGOL.
But at least for 2012, score one for the informed consumer. All eligible upgrades are in play.
As for next year, with proper foresight, incidito in iPhone, cupiens non vitare C-spectrum.
...and now for the backlink: JK!
At that point it was automatically activated on the transfer-recipient non-unlimited line one morning. I called to deactivate it and reactivate the existing phone on the non-unlimited line, let the iPhone sit overnight, then activated on my unlimited line...what do ya know, I still have unlimited 2 weeks later (although the activation's billing period hasn't closed yet). Looking at the recent developments in this thread, it looks like being lazy and indecisive finally paid off!
Anyway, to explain everyone's Transfer Upgrade windfalls, I think it's because Verizon incorrectly foresaw more people transferring upgrades TO unlimited lines rather than transferring upgrades AWAY from unlimited lines and plotted to repeal as many unlimited plans as possible. Basically they couldn't have it both ways:
unlimitedA consuming B's upgrade removes unlimited on line A, AND
B consuming unlimitedA's upgrade removes unlimited on line A.
They chose the former: an unlimited line consuming its own upgrade or an upgrade transferred from another line will remove the unlimited data feature. Since they couldn't cripple two accounts for a single upgrade, this meant the converse must not be true: that an unlimited line's upgrade transferred to another line will not remove the unlimited feature on the original line.
Although it seems like a loophole, the policy as implemented may have actually been Verizon's best bet for wiping out as many unlimited plans as possible. Despite leaving the door open for some tomfoolery, it still seems to be the more aggressive option. If the company suspects that the consumers most likely to resist abandoning unlimited data are the same consumers most likely to upgrade to iPhone 5, then prohibiting their upgrade via inbound transfer from another user is more likely to deter the uninformed than prohibiting their upgrade via the outbound transfer of their own upgrade which must then be followed by subsequent activation, deactivation, and reactivation on the unlimited line.
In other words: if the 'Transfer Upgrade' method as we know it did actually cause the line transferring away an upgrade to lose unlimited data, then we would all be simply transferring our dumb lines' iPhone 5 upgrade directly to the unlimited line without repercussion, as the dumb line would be the one at risk of losing unlimited data. Allowing the outbound transfer of an unlimited line's upgrade is the cost Verizon had to pay for making the rest of you go through the hassle of upgrading on secondary lines rather than doing a direct upgrade transfer to your own line.
Consider a share plan with 2 lines, both unlimited. One has an eligible upgrade, the other line wants to consume the upgrade but keep its own unlimited plan. Which line should have to give up unlimited data (in Verizon's eyes)? If the upgrade-eligible line loses its data plan no matter who consumes the upgrade, then users just 'Transfer Upgrade', upgrade line #2 directly, keep unlimited, easy as pie. If the line that actually receives the transferred upgrade loses unlimited, line #2 would instead have to compel the eligible line #1 to execute the upgrade on line #2's behalf, activate the device on its own line, then reactivate its original device and physically transfer the new phone to the user of line #2. I'm not saying it's hard, it's just harder. It makes the more obvious method of gaming more disruptive and therefore a less likely scenario (although still extremely likely for the macrumors crowd). So on closer inspection, the observed policy is not inconsistent with Verizon trying to maximize its own profits at the expense of users' unlimited data plans. It need not be a computer glitch, a policy oversight, or some benevolent act to satisfy the superusers. They had to leave open one method or the other, and they chose to leave open the method that increases the headache and decreases the likelihood of gaming the system (even if ever so slightly in the context of what you're getting, in hopes there exists the marginal teenager who lacks sufficient parental bargaining power to let him attempt some convoluted scheme he read on the internet, on a phone bill he's already tanked once with all that dammed texting and vcast nonsense).
What is Verizon's alternative? You execute or transfer an upgrade and everyone loses unlimited data? What would that policy look like? Two or more contracts must be extended and re-signed on inferior terms for one new handset? It may not be an intensely competitive market, but I don't think Verizon could've sold that proposition en masse. Perceived inequity may be one of the few strong motivators for brand switching in a price-equivalent oligopoly.
Equipped with knowledge of these recent revelations, our mid-September beliefs appear retrospectively inconsistent, or at least intransitive, most likely grounded in our shared hypersensitivity toward losing unlimited data plans. The assumption was that upgrading one's own device kills unlimited data (reflexive, OK), also that transferring an unlimited line's upgrade to use on a dummy line kills unlimited (assumes the impact is on transfer originator), and finally an idea too farcical to have ever come up - transferring a dummy line's upgrade to use on an unlimited line kills unlimited (assumes the impact is on transfer recipient). Our belief was that no matter which way an upgrade crossed an unlimited data line the feature was revoked, even if it required an asymmetric application of policy to selectively benefit Verizon in each instance. Which is not to say that's an unreasonable belief to hedge against. Fortunately now, and the point of trying to unwind this initially ill-described system that was exposed only through trial-and-error and mutual information sharing, we have thus established a rational and internally consistent basis on which we can claim to have relied for decision making should the dear provider soon backpeddle and attempt to make good on the contents of upgrade transferors' emailed receipts rather than the dynamic content served during those frantic moments navigating the iconic order process.
Yet as it stands, everybody wins. Those investing the time and energy to research getting everything they want can do so, Verizon retains those users' business while stripping unlimited plans by the tens of millions from moms and pops in the middle 48 states who know not the glory of macrumors. Meanwhile marketing and legal are already in the conference room plotting to clean up more of those pesky legacy accounts next time around, knowing full well that the perfect trap does not exist but that some traps nonetheless work better than others. Recognizing this fact in advance - that the impossibility of a perfect contract implies they must always leave something on the table in pursuit of the majority - for us means the time is now to prepare for the siren song of September '13.
Committed to gorging myself on the 700 band for ages to come, I've already begun preparations for next year's showdown: I conduct 30 minutes of 'Genius' practice in the mirror each day and have befriended a tri-generational Bohemian neo-mennonite family (with eighteen upgradeable flip phones they want to keep
!). The rest of the plan will require a microwave magneto core and a skilled ALGOL programmer, though not for his or her skills in ALGOL.But at least for 2012, score one for the informed consumer. All eligible upgrades are in play.
As for next year, with proper foresight, incidito in iPhone, cupiens non vitare C-spectrum.
...and now for the backlink: JK!
For this go around (since i am on a single person unlimited data plan), i am just buying the 5 outright. Next fall when the 5s comes out, i will be elligiable for an upgrade on my ULD plan. Am i reading this thread correctly, i can transfer my upgrade on my ULD line to someone else, use that to get the 5s.
I don't think I ever updated but I did get mine to work as well, finally. Upgraded a dumb phone, waited 24 hours, and went to activate. No dice. Couldn't do it online. Called in and said I needed a new SIM contrary to everything I've read. Called the third party store and they want $20 for one, I ticked but go anyways.(I have a history of hating this place, they had an iPhone 5 on release day but couldn't get it activated over three days so I told them to pound sand and waited a month to get one from Apple) I get there and tell them what I need. Guy goes to the back and gets one. He comes back and asks if I have a SIM tool. Uh, no as they don't include them in Verizon phones and I don't think any US phones. So a Verizon store that sell iPhone doesn't have a SIM tool? Nope, sure don't. I hate this store. After trying push pins and paper clips to no avail he gave up. He did give me the SIM card though without charging me like they should have. Took it home and finally got the SIM out with an old nametag pin of my wifes. Activated quickly and easily with the new SIM.
I want to share my success story with everyone. So I was at Sams Club and they happened to have an iPhone 5 available. I bought it at the subsidized price on my grandmother's dumpphone line. Then I got home and called Verizon to switch the 4S on my unlimited line to my grandma's and the 5 to my line. The 5 had sim so the representative redid the sim # or something so the phone showed up as a Samsung Trance online with PayPerUse data. I got worried so I called verizon again and they said it was normal and the unlimited would come back once I activated the iphone 5. The sims reset at 7 AM EST so I called at 6 AM PST then they transferred everything over and I had a subsidized iPhone 5 w/ unlimited.
You lost me at paragraph 4.
Hey guys, I posted in here (#179, 182...) way back when we thought doing Transfer Upgrade from an unlimited line to a non-unlimited line would get you tossed from the buffet. Failing to keep up with this thread I let my release day iPhone 5 sit there for a month unactivated while I toiled over what to do.
At that point it was automatically activated on the transfer-recipient non-unlimited line one morning. I called to deactivate it and reactivate the existing phone on the non-unlimited line, let the iPhone sit overnight, then activated on my unlimited line...what do ya know, I still have unlimited 2 weeks later (although the activation's billing period hasn't closed yet). Looking at the recent developments in this thread, it looks like being lazy and indecisive finally paid off!
Anyway, to explain everyone's Transfer Upgrade windfalls, I think it's because Verizon incorrectly foresaw more people transferring upgrades TO unlimited lines rather than transferring upgrades AWAY from unlimited lines and plotted to repeal as many unlimited plans as possible. Basically they couldn't have it both ways:
unlimitedA consuming B's upgrade removes unlimited on line A, AND
B consuming unlimitedA's upgrade removes unlimited on line A.
They chose the former: an unlimited line consuming its own upgrade or an upgrade transferred from another line will remove the unlimited data feature. Since they couldn't cripple two accounts for a single upgrade, this meant the converse must not be true: that an unlimited line's upgrade transferred to another line will not remove the unlimited feature on the original line.
Although it seems like a loophole, the policy as implemented may have actually been Verizon's best bet for wiping out as many unlimited plans as possible. Despite leaving the door open for some tomfoolery, it still seems to be the more aggressive option. If the company suspects that the consumers most likely to resist abandoning unlimited data are the same consumers most likely to upgrade to iPhone 5, then prohibiting their upgrade via inbound transfer from another user is more likely to deter the uninformed than prohibiting their upgrade via the outbound transfer of their own upgrade which must then be followed by subsequent activation, deactivation, and reactivation on the unlimited line.
In other words: if the 'Transfer Upgrade' method as we know it did actually cause the line transferring away an upgrade to lose unlimited data, then we would all be simply transferring our dumb lines' iPhone 5 upgrade directly to the unlimited line without repercussion, as the dumb line would be the one at risk of losing unlimited data. Allowing the outbound transfer of an unlimited line's upgrade is the cost Verizon had to pay for making the rest of you go through the hassle of upgrading on secondary lines rather than doing a direct upgrade transfer to your own line.
Consider a share plan with 2 lines, both unlimited. One has an eligible upgrade, the other line wants to consume the upgrade but keep its own unlimited plan. Which line should have to give up unlimited data (in Verizon's eyes)? If the upgrade-eligible line loses its data plan no matter who consumes the upgrade, then users just 'Transfer Upgrade', upgrade line #2 directly, keep unlimited, easy as pie. If the line that actually receives the transferred upgrade loses unlimited, line #2 would instead have to compel the eligible line #1 to execute the upgrade on line #2's behalf, activate the device on its own line, then reactivate its original device and physically transfer the new phone to the user of line #2. I'm not saying it's hard, it's just harder. It makes the more obvious method of gaming more disruptive and therefore a less likely scenario (although still extremely likely for the macrumors crowd). So on closer inspection, the observed policy is not inconsistent with Verizon trying to maximize its own profits at the expense of users' unlimited data plans. It need not be a computer glitch, a policy oversight, or some benevolent act to satisfy the superusers. They had to leave open one method or the other, and they chose to leave open the method that increases the headache and decreases the likelihood of gaming the system (even if ever so slightly in the context of what you're getting, in hopes there exists the marginal teenager who lacks sufficient parental bargaining power to let him attempt some convoluted scheme he read on the internet, on a phone bill he's already tanked once with all that dammed texting and vcast nonsense).
What is Verizon's alternative? You execute or transfer an upgrade and everyone loses unlimited data? What would that policy look like? Two or more contracts must be extended and re-signed on inferior terms for one new handset? It may not be an intensely competitive market, but I don't think Verizon could've sold that proposition en masse. Perceived inequity may be one of the few strong motivators for brand switching in a price-equivalent oligopoly.
Equipped with knowledge of these recent revelations, our mid-September beliefs appear retrospectively inconsistent, or at least intransitive, most likely grounded in our shared hypersensitivity toward losing unlimited data plans. The assumption was that upgrading one's own device kills unlimited data (reflexive, OK), also that transferring an unlimited line's upgrade to use on a dummy line kills unlimited (assumes the impact is on transfer originator), and finally an idea too farcical to have ever come up - transferring a dummy line's upgrade to use on an unlimited line kills unlimited (assumes the impact is on transfer recipient). Our belief was that no matter which way an upgrade crossed an unlimited data line the feature was revoked, even if it required an asymmetric application of policy to selectively benefit Verizon in each instance. Which is not to say that's an unreasonable belief to hedge against. Fortunately now, and the point of trying to unwind this initially ill-described system that was exposed only through trial-and-error and mutual information sharing, we have thus established a rational and internally consistent basis on which we can claim to have relied for decision making should the dear provider soon backpeddle and attempt to make good on the contents of upgrade transferors' emailed receipts rather than the dynamic content served during those frantic moments navigating the iconic order process.
Yet as it stands, everybody wins. Those investing the time and energy to research getting everything they want can do so, Verizon retains those users' business while stripping unlimited plans by the tens of millions from moms and pops in the middle 48 states who know not the glory of macrumors. Meanwhile marketing and legal are already in the conference room plotting to clean up more of those pesky legacy accounts next time around, knowing full well that the perfect trap does not exist but that some traps nonetheless work better than others. Recognizing this fact in advance - that the impossibility of a perfect contract implies they must always leave something on the table in pursuit of the majority - for us means the time is now to prepare for the siren song of September '13.
Committed to gorging myself on the 700 band for ages to come, I've already begun preparations for next year's showdown: I conduct 30 minutes of 'Genius' practice in the mirror each day and have befriended a tri-generational Bohemian neo-mennonite family (with eighteen upgradeable flip phones they want to keep
But at least for 2012, score one for the informed consumer. All eligible upgrades are in play.
As for next year, with proper foresight, incidito in iPhone, cupiens non vitare C-spectrum.
...and now for the backlink: JK!
I purchased my Verizon iPhone 5 using the 'loophole' to maintain my unlimited data. All is good but I have some battery issues that are concerning. I want to make a genius bar appointment but I am worried about loosing ULD if I get a replacement phone.
My general understanding is that a replacement from an Apple Store will not change the 'plan' just the hardware.
So I am curious to see if anyone here has had a replacement iPhone 5 from an Apple Store and either Maintained or Lost Unlimited Data after the replacement.
My general understanding is that a replacement from an Apple Store will not change the 'plan' just the hardware.
So I am curious to see if anyone here has had a replacement iPhone 5 from an Apple Store and either Maintained or Lost Unlimited Data after the replacement.
That is a great question. My guess is the answer would be its the equivalent of an ESN swap and should not touch anything but of course we should get someone who has done that to confirm.
so heres my story,
i stupidly went to a verizon store to get an iphone 5. I used my moms dumbphone upgrade, but i for whatever reason ok'd to go from my unlimited plan to a 2gb. so using my moms upgrade but activating on my line. Thinking about it a week ago while it was being sent to me, i want to keep my unlimited plan.
Now i just got the phone in mail. all paper work points to my phone number to be the one updated to the 5 with 2gb plan. I know if i update my phone to the 5 i will lose my unlimited.
I dont want to return the phone and cancel the whole transaction to do it all over again. so is there a why i can keep the iphone5 i have and the unlimited plan without returning it?
thanks
i stupidly went to a verizon store to get an iphone 5. I used my moms dumbphone upgrade, but i for whatever reason ok'd to go from my unlimited plan to a 2gb. so using my moms upgrade but activating on my line. Thinking about it a week ago while it was being sent to me, i want to keep my unlimited plan.
Now i just got the phone in mail. all paper work points to my phone number to be the one updated to the 5 with 2gb plan. I know if i update my phone to the 5 i will lose my unlimited.
I dont want to return the phone and cancel the whole transaction to do it all over again. so is there a why i can keep the iphone5 i have and the unlimited plan without returning it?
thanks
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This is my first post, although I have been a regular to this site for many years. I really want to make his loophole work, but I need some help. Mostly, it's a pride thing for me because this move by Verizon to eliminate unlimited data really irks me.
Here's what I have.
Family share plan with 2 smartphones (iPhones). No dummy phone.
Can I add a really cheap or even free dumb phone, or an old dumb phone I have lying around. Do I need to already have a dumphone on my account? How is it that Verizon haven't closed this loophole.
Also, and this is less important. Will I be paying more by having an unused dumb phone for 2 years?
I appreciate any help. I know it should be easy, but it sounds too good to be true and I would last surely screw something up.
Thanks in advance!
Shaun
Here's what I have.
Family share plan with 2 smartphones (iPhones). No dummy phone.
Can I add a really cheap or even free dumb phone, or an old dumb phone I have lying around. Do I need to already have a dumphone on my account? How is it that Verizon haven't closed this loophole.
Also, and this is less important. Will I be paying more by having an unused dumb phone for 2 years?
I appreciate any help. I know it should be easy, but it sounds too good to be true and I would last surely screw something up.
Thanks in advance!
Shaun
So my iphone is being delivered today, I will activate it on the dummy line. How long does it have to be "active" on that line? Do I need to make a phone call or two? Download an app? Then just asking advice. I will then reapply the old dummy phone to the line. This will effectively kill the data plan I signed up for and make the iphone "dead" for 24 hours. I can then either wait till 7am tomorrow or go to a verizon or apple store and get another nano sim and just activate the iphone now to my line and maintain ULD. Does that sound pretty accurate? Am I missing anything? Thanks in advanced.
Ok so the iPhone only has to activated on the dummy line. After that you don't even have to wait a minute to swap the 5 out for the dummy
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Doesn't need to be on the dummy line for too long. A minute would be a ok and swap the phone before midnight EST that way you can activate the 5 at 7AM EST
Just an update to pass along that this still works...
Took my unopened iPhone 5 into the Verizon store. Told them that I wanted to keep my unlimited and switch lines. Since I had not activated the iPhone they made the switch in the store and 5 min later I was walking out with the 5 on my line with my unlimited still intact.
Thanks everyone. You saved me $450...plus tax
Thank you for your reply to my second question, but could you advise whether or not to turn on the phone after the activation on the dummy line?
Hi everyone.
My situation:
My Verizon account has 3 phones on it. An iPhone 4, an iPhone 4S, and a dummy phone. Both iPhone's have the Unlimited Data Plan.
The "dummy" phone has an early upgrade eligible on 12/02/12. Anyone heard of stories of Verizon being kind enough to early upgrade now, since it's NOT an Apple to Apple phone?
I want to upgrade this line to iPhone 5, order it, have them put a 2GB data plan on his number, have the iPhone 5 shipped to me. I'm wondering what's the easiest step to go from there? Switch iPhone5 to my line via Verizon website, then call Verizon to cancel the data plan that was placed on dummy line?
Also, once I cancel the data plan, will they charge me for it even though I didn't use it at all?
Thanks again.
My situation:
My Verizon account has 3 phones on it. An iPhone 4, an iPhone 4S, and a dummy phone. Both iPhone's have the Unlimited Data Plan.
The "dummy" phone has an early upgrade eligible on 12/02/12. Anyone heard of stories of Verizon being kind enough to early upgrade now, since it's NOT an Apple to Apple phone?
I want to upgrade this line to iPhone 5, order it, have them put a 2GB data plan on his number, have the iPhone 5 shipped to me. I'm wondering what's the easiest step to go from there? Switch iPhone5 to my line via Verizon website, then call Verizon to cancel the data plan that was placed on dummy line?
Also, once I cancel the data plan, will they charge me for it even though I didn't use it at all?
Thanks again.
Ok so this is my first time on this site, I have a family plan 1 iphone 4 (unlimited) and 2 dumb phones, I went to Verizon last week and the guy told me I can add the gs3 just pay the 200 dollars for adding the line then replace the iPhone 4 with the gs3 so the gs3 will have unlimited and the iPhone 4 will now be capped then he said to replace the iPhone 4 with a dumb phone..so after all this he said my gs3 will be the only smart phone with unlimited 4g lte and 3 dumb phones...would this work??? I don't want to pay 200 dollars and then he tells me he accidentally "downgraded" me to a capped data plan
Nevermind. Answered my own question. They don't upgrade based on phone, but based on contract date. So I can't upgrade my dummy phone line until 12/02/12. Gr.
I had a dumb phone on a 3rd (unused) family plan line I activated about a year ago to have an upgrade available for the iPhone 5. When I got my iPh5, I called Verizon BEFORE I ACTIVATED IT and had them activate my iPh5 on my regular number (which had an iPhone4 on it). So far, my billing is showing unlimited data. I thought maybe they just hadn't updated my plan (thinking I'd have to pay per GB). I'll be interested to see if it's still "unlimited" on my next bill.
Thanks for the info!
Thanks for the info!
I went ahead and "activated" the IP5 on a dummy line. I never turned on the iPhone. I went ahead and tried to activate the dummy line back after about 5 minutes...said it was unable to process my request and to call customer service.
Talked to someone and they put the dummy phone back on.
Does it sound like even though I had to go through this, that I will be able to activate the IP5 on my UDP line and keep my unlimited data tomorrow?
Talked to someone and they put the dummy phone back on.
Does it sound like even though I had to go through this, that I will be able to activate the IP5 on my UDP line and keep my unlimited data tomorrow?