Carrier [Confirmed] Verizon Unlimited Loophole

[ineoxs]

Ok, so I transferred my upgrade to line 2 dummy. Purchased the 5 on line 2 and had to add a 2gb data plan to it.

I would like to do this all online if possible.

so the steps are:
1. Activate 5 on dummy line 2.
2. This is the part I am unsure of....transfer what to what?
3. Wait 24hrs for nanosim to reset. Do I still need to do this?
4. Activate 5 on my original UDP line via website.
5. Reactivate dummy phone on line 2 and drop the data plan.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks!

Won't transferring upgrade from your smart line to the dumb line extend your smart line into 2 years contract and change you plan to 2gb data? I was told by couple of reps that if you transfer upgrade your smart line will be renewed and the moment it's renewed you will lose UDP automatically and get into tiered data plan.

Only way you can keep UDP is if your dumb line was eligible for upgrade. then you can order iPhone5 and switch it to your smart line. Nothing changes on your smart line.

 

[Jtludwig]

Won't transferring upgrade from your smart line to the dumb line extend your smart line into 2 years contract and change you plan to 2gb data? I was told by couple of reps that if you transfer upgrade your smart line will be renewed and the moment it's renewed you will lose UDP automatically and get into tiered data plan.

Only way you can keep UDP is if your dumb line was eligible for upgrade. then you can order iPhone5 and switch it to your smart line. Nothing changes on your smart line.

It works. It shouldn't but its an error/loophole on the website. If you were to transfer it to another smartphone line, that one makes you drop unlimited. Doing it with a dumb phone line just makes u pick a tiered plan.

 

[imazu]

It works. It shouldn't but its an error/loophole on the website. If you were to transfer it to another smartphone line, that one makes you drop unlimited. Doing it with a dumb phone line just makes u pick a tiered plan.

does it extend the contract or upgrade eligibility of the phone? or both?

 

[Jtludwig]

It works. It shouldn't but its an error/loophole on the website. If you were to transfer it to another smartphone line, that one makes you drop unlimited. Doing it with a dumb phone line just makes u pick a tiered plan.

It extended the contract on the smartphone donor line. This should have dropped the unlimited data per Verizon's policy, but it must be an oversight on the website when you transfer the upgrade to a dumbphone.

As I said, transferring it to a line that already has a smartphone makes the recipient line drop unlimited data...i tested that out too.

MAKE SURE YOU ACTIVATE THE NEW PHONE ON THE DUMB PHONE LINE FIRST.

Phoenixmac earlier in this thread already did the same thing.

 

[oreo1112]

I am receiving my phone on Monday. I upgraded using my upgrade but then transfered it to my dad's "dumb" phone. I know I am able to keep my unlimited and blah blah blah.

But what I wanted to confirm is when I do this upgrade will it mess with his line? Will he be able to still receive phone calls when I "upgrade" his line to the iphone?

Thanks everyone!

 

[bmwtech113]

I can confirm the transfer upgrade works even in the verizon retail store. I have 2 lines, line 1 is my udp line and line 2 is a dumb phone line. Line 1 was eligible on October 7 for upgrade. I made various phone calls to verizon and finally talked to someone that knew about the transfer upgrades. So I went to the verizon store and told them what I wanted to do and the first salesperson didn't know it would work but others did know about it. I transferred my upgrade from line 1 to line 2. The salesperson activated the iphone on line 2. This extended my line 1 contract but did not remove udp. The salesperson then used another nano sim and put the iphone on line 1 with udp.

 

[ForceMan]

It is not a website error. It is call an MDN Alternate Upgrade. Most employees just don't understand the policy but that is what it is.

 

[mactumors]

Easy

Thanks to this thread, I now have an iPhone 5 with unlimited data. I didn't have to get a new SIM card and it was all done online. Here is my process. It should work for anyone:

1. Bought an iPhone using my sister's upgrade and activated it on her dumbphone line.
2. Went online to My Verizon and activated my sister's old dumbphone back on her line, replacing the new iPhone.
3. Now the iPhone is not associated with any phone line. It takes "24 hours" (or really only until 7am EST the next morning) for the SIM card to be available for activation again.(source)
4. Woke up the next morning, went on My Verizon, typed in the IMEI and SIM numbers, and the phone activated on my line.
5. Downloaded a bunch of crap I didn't even need over blazing fast LTE just to stick it to the man.

 

[Gryz]

Thanks to this thread, I now have an iPhone 5 with unlimited data. I didn't have to get a new SIM card and it was all done online. Here is my process. It should work for anyone:

1. Bought an iPhone using my sister's upgrade and activated it on her dumbphone line.
2. Went online to My Verizon and activated my sister's old dumbphone back on her line, replacing the new iPhone.
3. Now the iPhone is not associated with any phone line. It takes "24 hours" (or really only until 7am EST the next morning) for the SIM card to be available for activation again.(source)
4. Woke up the next morning, went on My Verizon, typed in the IMEI and SIM numbers, and the phone activated on my line.
5. Downloaded a bunch of crap I didn't even need over blazing fast LTE just to stick it to the man.

I see a lot of people referring to leaving the phone in the box during the activation process. Do you ever need to open the box to get any of the IMEI and SIM numbers? I guess what I'm asking is, is the phone on at all during this process?

 

[imazu]

I see a lot of people referring to leaving the phone in the box during the activation process. Do you ever need to open the box to get any of the IMEI and SIM numbers? I guess what I'm asking is, is the phone on at all during this process?

IMEI/MEID and SIM # is outside the box sticker. SIM # is the ICCID. They are all on the sticker so you don't really need to open the box if you don't want to.
When you pick up an iPhone during reservation all the infos on the box that you reserved is associated to your account they need to scan all the phone details Serial, SIM and IMEID to continue your pick up and will trigger the system to associate it to your account and will be activated to the account but it doesn't mean that your other phone that your upgrading from will be deactivated. It will only be deactivated once you turn on the new device and let it do the activation.

 

[aneftp]

For the record. This is not a "loophole".

A loophole is like adding unlimited data when unlimited data was killed off summer 2011.

Many people like me used the real loophole and added unlimited data by calling and having reps add a $30 unlimited hotspot to our 2-4GB tiered data LTE phone.

That's. real loophole that was finally closed in march 2012.

A loophole does not require adding a line or using another line's upgrade. It's silly to call this a loophole.

What happens if you don't have another upgrade left or another line to add? Verizon has you cornered.

 

[Gryz]

IMEI/MEID and SIM # is outside the box sticker. SIM # is the ICCID. They are all on the sticker so you don't really need to open the box if you don't want to.
When you pick up an iPhone during reservation all the infos on the box that you reserved is associated to your account they need to scan all the phone details Serial, SIM and IMEID to continue your pick up and will trigger the system to associate it to your account and will be activated to the account but it doesn't mean that your other phone that your upgrading from will be deactivated. It will only be deactivated once you turn on the new device and let it do the activation.

So when I activate it online by typing in the numbers on the sticker and want to deactivate the dummy phone, I need to turn on the iphone and let it activate in order to get the dummy off?

 

[imazu]

So when I activate it online by typing in the numbers on the sticker and want to deactivate the dummy phone, I need to turn on the iphone and let it activate in order to get the dummy off?

you just have to mactumors guide.
in order to deactivate the iPhone 5 on the dummy line after you activated it you have activate the dummy phone that you originally have before the iPhone 5.
then you can activate the iPhone 5 to your line by waiting like his suggestion or if you have a new nano sim you'll be able to use it right away.

 

[mactumors]

So when I activate it online by typing in the numbers on the sticker and want to deactivate the dummy phone, I need to turn on the iphone and let it activate in order to get the dummy off?

No, you do not have to turn the phone on. I kept my iPhone in the box the whole time. Activation really just means tying a phone number to a SIM card.

 

[chakalakasp]

It is possible to do this without re-activating the dumbphone?

Here is my situation. Line 1: iPhone4, unlimited data. Line 2: dumbphone. Am using line 2's upgrade path to get the iPhone 5.

The line 2 dumbphone is an old Alltel phone grandfathered onto Verizon. Once you deactivate it, Verizon will not reactivate it.

What I want to do is get the iPhone 5 activated on line 2, then move it to line 1 and move the iphone 4 to line 2. In the end, I want line 1 to have the iPhone 5 with unlimited data and line 2 to have the iPhone 4 with tiered (limited) data. My plan was to get the iPhone 5, activate it on line 2, wait 24 hours, then move the iPhone 5 to line 1 and iPhone 4 to line 2 via ESN swap on the website. Will this work and retain unlimited data for line 1?

I can go out an buy an el cheapo Verizon dumbphone on ebay that I can briefly activate if I have to to make this work, but if I'm going to need to do that I want to have it in hand when then iPhone 5 gets here. And if I don't need it at all, all the better.

 

[BMNB1tch]

activated my 5 on my unlimited data line with ease. literally took 2 minutes. i didnt even open the box just entered the IMEI and ICCID from the receipt on the verizon wireless website.

 

[iphone4all]

My procedure as previously stated:

I purchased the ip5 as an upgrade to an existing basic phone.
Once the ip5 was activated on the basic line, the original basic phone was then reactivated to its original line.
At his point the ip5 was automatically deactivated.
The ip5 nanosim was replaced.
The ip5 was then activated on the ULD line.

I am wondering if anyone has had success keeping the unlimited when purchasing the ip5 on line1 (dumb) then switching it over the the ULD.......at an Apple Store?

I had success at the Verizon store with my ip5 as I had posted earlier. But now, I want another ip5 and the Apple Store will most likely have one this week that they can hold whereas Verizon Store says 11/16.

 

[Homebrew13]

Can someone help me keep my UDP and purchase the iphone 5 at the discounted price? Here is my setup: I have a droid with unlimited data and is upgrade eligible. I am currently on a family plan. There are three other lines one is an iphone 4 no upgrade, live 3 is a flip phone no data currently but upgrade eligible (this line however is purchasing their own iphone 5. Finally line 4 basic flip phone not eligible.

I tried using this loophole at a veruzin store two weeks ago transferring my upgrade to the line that is currently the iphone (no current upgrade and already on a 2gb limit) the reciept and cashier said it worked but I woke up with an email from verizon saying because I transferred my upgrade my line lost unlimited. I was able to call and cancel everything. At that time I was told if I transfer my upgrade I automatically lose unlimited...but from what I am reading here if I transfer that upgrade online to line 4. I will not lose my UDP. Is that true? what would my next steps be? Help please!

 

[areyes163]

It is possible to do this without re-activating the dumbphone?

Here is my situation. Line 1: iPhone4, unlimited data. Line 2: dumbphone. Am using line 2's upgrade path to get the iPhone 5.

The line 2 dumbphone is an old Alltel phone grandfathered onto Verizon. Once you deactivate it, Verizon will not reactivate it.

What I want to do is get the iPhone 5 activated on line 2, then move it to line 1 and move the iphone 4 to line 2. In the end, I want line 1 to have the iPhone 5 with unlimited data and line 2 to have the iPhone 4 with tiered (limited) data. My plan was to get the iPhone 5, activate it on line 2, wait 24 hours, then move the iPhone 5 to line 1 and iPhone 4 to line 2 via ESN swap on the website. Will this work and retain unlimited data for line 1?

I can go out an buy an el cheapo Verizon dumbphone on ebay that I can briefly activate if I have to to make this work, but if I'm going to need to do that I want to have it in hand when then iPhone 5 gets here. And if I don't need it at all, all the better.

Yes I did the same thing today. You don't even have to wait 24 hrs. I activated the phone then deactivated it. Drove to Verizon got a new SIM card and was done. Took less than 30 minutes total

 

[Homebrew13]

^ help?!?

 

[lemieuxfan67]

Can someone help me keep my UDP and purchase the iphone 5 at the discounted price? Here is my setup: I have a droid with unlimited data and is upgrade eligible. I am currently on a family plan. There are three other lines one is an iphone 4 no upgrade, live 3 is a flip phone no data currently but upgrade eligible (this line however is purchasing their own iphone 5. Finally line 4 basic flip phone not eligible.

I tried using this loophole at a veruzin store two weeks ago transferring my upgrade to the line that is currently the iphone (no current upgrade and already on a 2gb limit) the reciept and cashier said it worked but I woke up with an email from verizon saying because I transferred my upgrade my line lost unlimited. I was able to call and cancel everything. At that time I was told if I transfer my upgrade I automatically lose unlimited...but from what I am reading here if I transfer that upgrade online to line 4. I will not lose my UDP. Is that true? what would my next steps be? Help please!

No, you cannot use the upgrade on your unlimited line at all. Anything you do that will force your line to renew its contract will remove unlimited data. Looking at your scenero, you can either add a line or pay retail price for the phone.

 

[ForceMan]

No, you cannot use the upgrade on your unlimited line at all. Anything you do that will force your line to renew its contract will remove unlimited data. Looking at your scenero, you can either add a line or pay retail price for the phone.

That the opposite of what is happening on here. We need further clarification.

 

[Ivabign]

That the opposite of what is happening on here. We need further clarification.

I was under the impression that when the line that has unlimited comes up for upgrade - you can "transfer upgrade' to the dummy line - activate - leave it on for a bit - then switch devices - hence you are able to upgrade the unlimited line and keep unlimited...

Am I wrong here?

 

[ForceMan]

I was under the impression that when the line that has unlimited comes up for upgrade - you can "transfer upgrade' to the dummy line - activate - leave it on for a bit - then switch devices - hence you are able to upgrade the unlimited line and keep unlimited...

Am I wrong here?

That is exactly how I understood it. I would venture to guess that this person activated it directly on his main line instead of the other line first?

 

[ddehr026]

Anyone have any experience transferring an upgrade to an iPhone 4s line currently under contact and buying the 5 that way?