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"According to Bloomberg, Cicilline did mention the possibility of a Glass-Steagall law for technology platforms, which would prevent tech companies from both running a platform and competing on it at the same time."

That actually sounds like a good idea.
 
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"According to Bloomberg, Cicilline did mention the possibility of a Glass-Steagall law for technology platforms, which would prevent tech companies from both running a platform and competing on it at the same time."

That actually sounds like a good idea.
Good. Let’s kill tech innovation in the US. We’ve already lost manufacturing, now let’s go for tech.
 
Still can’t understand why they blocked xcloud other than trying to squeeze money out of Microsoft.

they denied xcloud because Apple wouldn’t have been able to vet each game that Microsoft would make available through the xcloud system since the games are streamed. Part of the App Store system is to make sure there aren’t any bad actors. xcloud would have circumvented that.
 
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New OS, new ecosystem developed and nurtured only by the developers and make their own rules in a cohesive fashion is the only solution.
Allowing iPhones to run other operating systems could work. Let people load whatever Android they like and let Apple provide iOS as the default choice for those that want it. Bootcamp for iPhone.
 
Who is responsible when an Apple hardware running this OS overheats, and burns a hole on the desk or an unsuspecting user's body? Should AppleCare cover the hardware repair costs?
A revised ToS would take care of third-party software incidents like that so no, AppleCare would not cover it.
 
I am proposing that it should be possible to install additional app stores to the iPhone, just like Steam and other stores can be installed on macOS alongside The Mac App Store.
I'll go one better and suggest the ability to install other operating systems, with their own app stores.

iOS is really great and lots of people love it. Messing around with it is a terrible, terrible idea. However, allowing Android to be installed as an alternative makes a lot of sense and would allow Apple to continue business as usual for those who want the Apple experience.
 
Allowing iPhones to run other operating systems could work. Let people load whatever Android they like and let Apple provide iOS as the default choice for those that want it. Bootcamp for iPhone.
I doubt Apple will allow that now when they are in a much stronger position than in 80s even then they didn’t allow when they were even bad. But with TC you never know.

I prefer a complete open OS where developers forums to have complete control over and even license the OS or charge the mobile phone users for a small annual charges to keep the ecosystem safe, secured yet vibrant.
I believe this is already shaping behind the screen if my hunch is correct. These law suits and bravery provides perfect battle ground and motivates, developers, users in migrating to a newer options without spending a fortune on marketing. They only try to keep this legal battle to last longer which shall provide perfect media coverage and polarise public opinions tilting in favour of the underdog as usual. If there is a third or fourth option brewing long enough, this is the perfect timing!
 
News just in, Publicly traded company tries to retain market share and earn a profit.

My wife selling her no-bake bars at the market is an example trying to turn a profit.

I agree with you in principle. But stating it that way, for a company approaching a billion dollars per week in profit, is understating it to the point of misrepresentation.
 
I doubt Apple will allow that now when they are in a much stronger position than in 80s even then they didn’t allow when they were even bad. But with TC you never know.
If the choice is between allowing Android or breaking up iOS, I'm sure they would choose an open hardware platform.

I prefer a complete open OS where developers forum to have complete control and even license or charge the mobile phone users for a small annual charges to keep the ecosystem safe, secured yet vibrant.
You can't have an open os that is also safe and secure. They are diametrically opposite goals. Freedom or security-- choose one.
 
I'll go one better and suggest the ability to install other operating systems, with their own app stores.

iOS is really great and lots of people love it. Messing around with it is a terrible, terrible idea. However, allowing Android to be installed as an alternative makes a lot of sense and would allow Apple to continue business as usual for those who want the Apple experience.

It's an interesting world to imagine, but no, absolutely not.

That seems like it would restrict the ability of Apple, and other companies, to make their own CPUs.

Where would the line be drawn? Would Nintendo and Sony be forced to facilitate Android and Firefox OS being installed on their game consoles?

I think independent stores should be fair and workable on all platforms. I'd bet that well over 50% of people would go through the first party store for everything, but the threat of people possibly switching to third party stores will keep terms on the first party stores reasonable.
 
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Permit third party app stores and refine the IAP requirements.

Imagine if Walmart had the same rules that Apple does. When you buy an iPhone from Walmart, every single iOS App purchased on it had a 30% fee that went to Walmart. That'd be insane.

At the same time though, Walmart isn't full of free products from companies hoping to make money off of IAP later. I'm not sure what the right balance to strike is, but a properly functioning free market can figure that out for us. Permit third party app stores and see what rules end up emerging at each of them.

I wonder if Apple will be permitted to keep the iOS App Store. They were the immoral idiots who didn't properly regulate themselves though, so they get what they deserve when the government comes and breaks them up. The government may determine that only third party app stores are allowed to exist from now on, just like movie studios lost the ability to own movie theaters.

I don’t understand your Walmart argument... Walmart does take a cut of everything. You can argue whether they take too much, but in the end, they could always sell at target - like Android.

It’s funny you suggest that we follow free market forces - but you’re suggesting the government should break Apple up - or that it’s about time it happens. Free market forces brought us here and I like where we’re at.
 
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Bold Prediction Time:

New Law will force AAPL to spin-off the iOS & Mac App Stores !

If done right, the result will be "Trusted, Verified, & Transparent" App Stores !

A welcome change !

Congress will need input from App Devs to get it right !

And I don't mean just the BIG BOYS !

Across the Board / Spectrum input !

From a User's perspective, the two main issues:

1.) App Discovery

2.) Pricing

will both benefit !
 
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Ok, so what? Nothing will happen. It’s just a show that wastes everyone’s time.
 
I think independent stores should be fair and workable on all platforms.
Let me be clear that I prefer Apple to continue business as usual and everyone bugger off, but Apple may be forced into an ultimatum here. If that happens, they may have to choose the lesser of two evils.

Third party app stores could work if they are forced to play by Apple security rules (sandboxed memory and storage, etc). At that point, it becomes just a profit and competition problem.
 
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Bold Prediction Time:

New Law will force AAPL to spin-off the iOS & Mac App Stores !

If done right, the result will be "Trusted, Verified, & Transparent" App Stores !

A welcome change !

Congress will need input from App Devs to get it right !

And I don't mean just the BIG BOYS !

Across the Board / Spectrum input !

From a User's perspective, the two main issues:

1.) App Discovery

2.) Pricing

will both benefit !
It’s definitely bold, but I don’t see any of this happening. Of course, I and we are just bystanders to the process.
 
The simplest solution is to tax monopolies. If the government feels the system makes too much money in too fewer hands then force them to pay more tax.
That's how it works with PG&E and other utilities. Effectively turns it into a government operation with all the DMV-like downsides, but at least they don't charge totally insane prices. Once something is a monopoly, the service is going to suck no matter what.
 
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What is it that lead Apple to this point? Are they totally oblivious to what happened to monopolies in the past? Didn't any lawyers come in and point out when AT&T was busted up, or when movie studios lost their ability to operate theaters? Or does Apple think they have enough money that they can win in court against the federal government (or drag the fight out long enough for the outcome to not matter?)

Does Apple realize that their brand is possibily their single greatest asset, and they've been steadily increasing the pace that they're dragging it through the mud?
I never use an Apple product and think, "I hate this product, but what choice do I have?" When it gets to that point, it's a monopoly. Right now, Apple customers seem quite happy.
 
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