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Option 4, make sure its all over the internet. That is way more likely to get Apple out of hidding. You think you would have gotten Apple to tell you, that your "holding your iphone wrong" by making a ticket? Add to the ball and make it roll and you'll see Apple do what they can to stop it.


I'll agree with you if you can get the press involved. But there's way too much noise and too few users on the forums to do much.
 
LOL

tech support people know absolutely nothing. no wonder you talk out of your ass for so long and condescend all the people who actually know what they're talking about. tech support. it all makes sense now.

how many lines of code have you written friend? why dont you take some CS courses at your local community college and then rejoin the discussion

Amazing how you extrapolate and condescend all in one post.

I've written code. I've built PCs. I have plenty of technology experience. None of which is necessary to recognize the absurdity of posters claiming to know more than Apple designers and engineers. :rolleyes:

Nice trolling attempt. Try again.
 
Amazing how you extrapolate and condescend all in one post.

I've written code. I've built PCs. I have plenty of technology experience. None of which is necessary to recognize the absurdity of posters claiming to know more than Apple designers and engineers. :rolleyes:

Nice trolling attempt. Try again.

why dont you read the 7.1 beta2 thread where an actual iOS coder runs benchmarks on the memory requirements for some of the crashing sites
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1684098/

or you can keep up with your blind support of apple and their "designers and engineers" :

This, as I've pointed out above, has always been one of the Achilles' heel of iOS. They have been aware of it at least since 2008 - particularly since 2010, when the iPad 1 and the iPhone 4 was introduced with vastly higher UIWebView memory requirements (because of the higher-res screens). They would have surely acted if they had wanted to in these years.
 
My tabs (usually no more than 3) are constantly reloading. Just having them open, reading a site for a few minutes and going to another tab will refresh all of them. Didn't think it would bother me and I thought the whole thing was being blown out of proportion but now I see... I hope the Air lasts me atleast two years but I think the RAM really will be a problem. How effective are these memory usage apps? 32MB free seems awfully low...mind you I don't always understand the active and free memory thing
 

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Ahem... Maybe you shouldn't use apps written by someone who lacks first grade math skills? (The numbers don't add up to 100%) :D

LOL! I thought that too, but then figured the rest is below and you need to scroll down.

How much memory is available to load Safari tabs?

(Hint: it's not 32.7MB)
 
Just to be sure, you read this particular post right? https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=18502038#post18502038

And have nothing to say about that?

Yes. The same thing I've said before. It's great that an independent app developer has his opinion. If I had to weigh his skill and credibility against Apple's, you know, the guys that actually designed and built the iPad, I wouldn't be so quick to declare that post the definitive answer. It's interesting, but hardly conclusive.

The iPad platform is well known, stable and documented, and app developers need to work within the constraints of the platform and make their apps work. If they can't, well, I wouldn't be complaining that I need another GB of RAM to make my app work. You don't have another GB. If Infinity Blade can run on 512MB of RAM....

Listen, the iPad Air has 1GB of RAM. Period. That is not going to change. Maybe the Air 2 has 2GB. Maybe not. But any iOS app HAS TO WORK within this restriction. They have no choice. And that includes Safari.

So sometimes tabs have to reload. Every single iOS app is subject to bring booted off active RAM and bring reloaded at some point. This is iOS 101. I am able to use several tabs without reloading a single one. But then I launch another app, and I'm somehow supposed to miraculously keep Safari and all it's tabs in Active Memory as well? If the other app I launch is small, maybe. But if it needs the RAM, it is booting Safari out of active memory. Period. And that would happen with 1 of 2 or 10GB of RAM. The only difference is how many other apps I want to keep in Active Memory at the same time.

And for 99% of iPad users this is a non issue. So I'm not sure why this expectation exists that Apple designs it's products for the 1%. I'd be complaining about the closed file system a lot more than another GB of RAM...
 
Yes. The same thing I've said before. It's great that an independent app developer has his opinion. If I had to weigh his skill and credibility against Apple's, you know, the guys that actually designed and built the iPad, I wouldn't be so quick to declare that post the definitive answer. It's interesting, but hardly conclusive.

The iPad platform is well known, stable and documented, and app developers need to work within the constraints of the platform and make their apps work. If they can't, well, I wouldn't be complaining that I need another GB of RAM to make my app work. You don't have another GB. If Infinity Blade can run on 512MB of RAM....

Listen, the iPad Air has 1GB of RAM. Period. That is not going to change. Maybe the Air 2 has 2GB. Maybe not. But any iOS app HAS TO WORK within this restriction. They have no choice. And that includes Safari.

So sometimes tabs have to reload. Every single iOS app is subject to bring booted off active RAM and bring reloaded at some point. This is iOS 101. I am able to use several tabs without reloading a single one. But then I launch another app, and I'm somehow supposed to miraculously keep Safari and all it's tabs in Active Memory as well? If the other app I launch is small, maybe. But if it needs the RAM, it is booting Safari out of active memory. Period. And that would happen with 1 of 2 or 10GB of RAM. The only difference is how many other apps I want to keep in Active Memory at the same time.

And for 99% of iPad users this is a non issue. So I'm not sure why this expectation exists that Apple designs it's products for the 1%. I'd be complaining about the closed file system a lot more than another GB of RAM...

There's slightly more to it than that. The other issue is that Safari on iOS 7 just isn't efficient. I've had MANY times where I've had no other apps open, and Safari is reloading between TWO (yes, just two) tabs. How do I fix this? Having to close out Safari and firing it back up. Then those two tabs switch perfectly well between each other with no other apps running. I'd imagine I'm not the only person experiencing this. For many, they're just assuming poor memory management, and maybe it is - but it's not all to do with the lack of RAM, and more to do with the lack of Safari's polish.

Many are also forgetting that iOS 7 supposedly has compressed memory functionality, potentially to avoid these sorts of pitfalls. So we'll see where iOS 7 goes, but for now it's certainly a real issue for at least some of us.
 
...For many, they're just assuming poor memory management, and maybe it is - but it's not all to do with the lack of RAM, and more to do with the lack of Safari's polish.

I agree with this. I've been reading a lot of good things about iOS 7.1, so we'll see.
 
How about hundreds? My ****** Windows 8 laptop never reloads a single tab in Chrome. Not ever. This is the gold standard and that's what the iPad should do.

I can't see your point safari on my macbook air never reloads a single tab either but then again its a laptop not a tablet!
 
I can't see your point safari on my macbook air never reloads a single tab either but then again its a laptop not a tablet!
That's a nice thought but the ipad was introduced and marketed (in writing on Apple.com) as: "the best web browsing experience you've ever had."

So a laptop is the best browsing experience ever then? I guess that's what you're saying.
 
I hope so. I haven't had any issues but this is getting a little long winded.... It's like geesh, can we move onto the next issue? :D

Well having just got an iPad mini and safari constantly loads the tabs and not necessarily when other apps are open To be fair never really been a Safari user I do keep trying it on various mac platforms but end up with firefox. Using atomic browser on my ipad and not had a tab reload to date.
 
That's a nice thought but the ipad was introduced and marketed (in writing on Apple.com) as: "the best web browsing experience you've ever had."

So a laptop is the best browsing experience ever then? I guess that's what you're saying.

Tim Cook never opens more than 1 tab where browsing therefore you're using it wrong.
 
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