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iPad Constant reloading of tabs in Safari makes iPad Air useless!

vgamedude said:
Sales figures are in no way an accurate representation of a devices performance. The average consumer probably doesn't even know the name of the processor used unless they see it in the ad.

Congratulations on entirely missing the point though.
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No, it's you who is missing the point. What's the point of having the most awesome tablet with 4GB of RAM if it doesn't sell? It's that arrogance that cracks me up. Apple is supposed to bend over backwards to satisfy a small minority of techies and ignore the millions of people that use their iPads daily with no complaints.

Congratulations on not being average. :rolleyes:
 
Since the Air has a blazing fast A7 processor, the Safari reloads should complete much faster than with prior iPad's, so can we all agree the Air is the "Ultimate Refreshing Machine" to borrow a line from BMW? :)
 
masterpace said:
On a funny side, a cold boot of Windows 8.1 uses 743MB out of 2GB of RAM on my Surface 2. Task manager shows 1.2GB of RAM available to run applications in multitasking mode. That doesn't even include virtual memory. If this is such a requirement, then a MS tablet like the Surface 2 is probably a better fit. One fact remains though: iPad is the best selling tablet because it's user friendly and the experience is more streamlined overall.
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How is the iPad more user friendly than the surface? If anything ios is designed for kids and grannies.
 
ZBoater said:
Ok, got it. Apple has no idea how to build a 64 bit processor on a tablet that can work with their designed specs. Got it. :rolleyes:
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Not really. When you have to tell your developers to watch the RAM usage because the new tablet needs more optimization in order to run the same stuff, you're not doing everything quite right.

Apple wants your money first and foremost. You can keep posting their quotes about their concerns about customers though. It's clearly working to reinforce their products in your head.
 
ZBoater said:
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Safari worked fine on my Mini 1 with 512MB of a RAM. The infamous "checker boarding" was the whine of the day back then. Safari knows how to display a couple of screenfuls of web without crashing. 1GB is more than enough.

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640kb is enough memory for anyone. 1gb is too much.
 
ZBoater said:
No, it's you who is missing the point. What's the point of having the most awesome tablet with 4GB of RAM if it doesn't sell? It's that arrogance that cracks me up. Apple is supposed to bend over backwards to satisfy a small minority of techies and ignore the millions of people that use their iPads daily with no complaints.

Congratulations on not being average. :rolleyes:
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So the tablet would have sold worse with 4gbs of ram? Hahahahahah. I think you mean apples profits would have been worse.

I never in any of my posts said that the iPads are selling bad. It's clear that every ipad released has sold well. But the ram is a huge issue for me, and for plenty of others. Simply because its not eating into their sales too much doesn't make it an invalid concern or issue.
 
vgamedude said:
So the tablet would have sold worse with 4gbs of ram? Hahahahahah. I think you mean apples profits would have been worse.
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You get an F in reading comprehension. Please go back and reread my post to understand what I said, not what you want to assume.

vgamedude said:
...But the ram is a huge issue for me, and for plenty of others. Simply because its not eating into their sales too much doesn't make it an invalid concern or issue.
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Ok, it a valid concern. :rolleyes: What are you going to do about it besides bash Apple or anyone who disagrees with you? :confused:
 
why do people continue to argue with the biggest apple fanboy and defender on the forum?

ZBoater is either:

1. clueless fanboy who will blindly defend anything and everything apple

2. secretly regretting his iPad purchase and trying to convince everyone else that everything is ok so he can feel better about it

anyway

fact is, even if it is an iOS issue (which not certain yet), no one still knows whether or not it can even be fixed. do we know that its just a memory leak somewhere? no. sure its possible. its also possible that perhaps iOS 7 is just too bloated that a 7.1 release will do nothing to fix it. and the problem itself is much bigger with the OS and won't be fixed until a complete rewrite. in that case, 2gb is essential to minimize the problems as much as possible. i'd be shocked if there is not 2gb in the next ipad
 
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Just had a read thru this, not hot my Air yet, should be here tomorrow, but the reloading issue happens on my i5 a lot, I only have safari open with 3 tabs, this site (mobile version), EE community (mobile version) and iMore forums (mobile version), not what I'd call RAM hungry, and yet I get plenty reloads per day, these 3 tabs are always open, they refresh probably every 10 mins, but iv noticed they refresh more if I switch between them more.

Lack if RAM maybe an issue too, bit I do hope it's software, as far as I know the i5 has plenty free ram, yet it still constantly refreshes, I'm in no way sticking up for apple, these devices should come with top specs considering we pay top prices, just hope it gets fixed, if not, and apple indeed release a newer ipad air I hope that let us trade in or something.

Adam.
 
Sheesh. This horse has been officially beaten to death.

How many post can re-say the same basic things in IOS 7 a) Safari Tabs reload too frequently, b) Safari crashes too often

You have three options:
  1. Deal with it
  2. Return your iPad
  3. Call up Apple and complain

I choose option #3 and currently have an open ticket with Apple engineering and they've been asking me for log files and error captures. I would suggestion others to do the same however most people seem to prefer debating these issues with zBoater instead.
 
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I chose option #3 as well. Seems that they are aware of it, and don't care for any more logs.

Sounds like they have it taken care of, as much as they are going to take care of it - as noted by the lack of improvements in this area with the current beta.

As long as it's selling well, they don't really seem to care. If my screen were not perfect, I would go the "multiple return" route to send a message.
 
ZBoater said:
You get an F in reading comprehension. Please go back and reread my post to understand what I said, not what you want to assume.



Ok, it a valid concern. :rolleyes: What are you going to do about it besides bash Apple or anyone who disagrees with you? :confused:
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I'm bashing you because you're ignorant and insist on typing these things on the forum when you don't even understand basic functions of RAM.

I'm going to take the advice of a different poster and ignore you.
 
Count Blah said:
I chose option #3 as well. Seems that they are aware of it, and don't care for any more logs.

Sounds like they have it taken care of, as much as they are going to take care of it - as noted by the lack of improvements in this area with the current beta.

As long as it's selling well, they don't really seem to care. If my screen were not perfect, I would go the "multiple return" route to send a message.
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Very interesting. So I'm curious what did Apple say to you as a resolution for your support ticket?
 
vgamedude said:
I'm bashing you because you're ignorant and insist on typing these things on the forum when you don't even understand basic functions of RAM.

I'm going to take the advice of a different poster and ignore you.
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It's for the best. Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I'm ignorant. Several decades of tech support experience allow me to opine with certain credibility. If you don't like my opinions you are certainly entitled to disagree. I wouldn't consider you ignorant for that. You'd be wrong, but not ignorant. :rolleyes:
 
Charliebird said:
Very interesting. So I'm curious what did Apple say to you as a resolution for your support ticket?
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I believe I got a level 0 person as I called and said I have a problem with safari tabs refreshing and safari crashing. I was met with a "it's a known issue that will be addressed in a future release". That with presious little else. I assumed she ment a software release, but it seems that it will only be addressed with a hardware release.
 
Count Blah said:
I believe I got a level 0 person as I called and said I have a problem with safari tabs refreshing and safari crashing. I was met with a "it's a known issue that will be addressed in a future release". That with presious little else. I assumed she ment a software release, but it seems that it will only be addressed with a hardware release.
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Are you just presuming this from beta 1 of ios 7.1? Not saying your wrong, but if you aren't returning then I think we should at least wait for another build or two before giving up all hope. I was pretty unimpressed overall by 7.1 beta 1, was there actually anything decent / worth talking about other than a dark keyboard!?

That said, I kinda agree that I'm not sure this issue can be 'fixed' by a software update. Actually nothing can 'fix' this issue anyway, even more RAM wouldn't 'fix' it (it sure would help though :p). But some sort of reduction in ios 7 size + optimization of safari tabs (maybe idk) will be as good as we can hope for I guess.
 
Count Blah said:
I believe I got a level 0 person as I called and said I have a problem with safari tabs refreshing and safari crashing. I was met with a "it's a known issue that will be addressed in a future release". That with presious little else. I assumed she ment a software release, but it seems that it will only be addressed with a hardware release.
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That's a drag. I've had pretty good luck getting escalated to a 'senior' support adviser. Maybe because the first thing I say when I speak to the level 0 person is, "I've sorry you got my support call because I'm pretty darn frustrated with Apple right now". They usually escalate my call pretty quickly afterwards.

I think you're in a good position since you have a documented support ticket with Apple regarding the Safari issues. If they don't fix it with a software update you can go back to them and say that they failed to follow through on what you were told and they'll take care you.
 
I don't know about you guys, but for me, Safari on iOS 7 is the dream forum machine: it reloads the tabs with forum root or open threads automatically, sparing me from constantly tapping refresh button. Always showing latest posts and replies. Couldn't be happier. :D

Think glass half full, not half empty. It's not a bug, it's a feature!

For the tasks where autorefresh is undesirable, use an appropriate tool for the job - Chrome, Atomic, iCab, etc.

:D
 
ZBoater said:
It's for the best. Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I'm ignorant. Several decades of tech support experience allow me to opine with certain credibility.
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LOL

tech support people know absolutely nothing. no wonder you talk out of your ass for so long and condescend all the people who actually know what they're talking about. tech support. it all makes sense now.

how many lines of code have you written friend? why dont you take some CS courses at your local community college and then rejoin the discussion
 
Charliebird said:
Sheesh. This horse has been officially beaten to death.

How many post can re-say the same basic things in IOS 7 a) Safari Tabs reload too frequently, b) Safari crashes too often

You have three options:
  1. Deal with it
  2. Return your iPad
  3. Call up Apple and complain

I choose option #3 and currently have an open ticket with Apple engineering and they've been asking me for log files and error captures. I would suggestion others to do the same however most people seem to prefer debating these issues with zBoater instead.
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Option 4, make sure its all over the internet. That is way more likely to get Apple out of hidding. You think you would have gotten Apple to tell you, that your "holding your iphone wrong" by making a ticket? Add to the ball and make it roll and you'll see Apple do what they can to stop it.
 
samiznaetekto said:
I don't know about you guys, but for me, Safari on iOS 7 is the dream forum machine: it reloads the tabs with forum root or open threads automatically, sparing me from constantly tapping refresh button. Always showing latest posts and replies. Couldn't be happier. :D

Think glass half full, not half empty. It's not a bug, it's a feature!

For the tasks where autorefresh is undesirable, use an appropriate tool for the job - Chrome, Atomic, iCab, etc.

:D
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ok apple fanboi
 
Misskitty said:
This is Apple, we're talking about here, one of the greediest corporations in the world. They most likely knew about the 1 vs 2gb ram debate but intentionally left it out, because in 6 months they will put out a newer model with 2GB ram for $100 more! Apple always intentionally leaves stuff out that should be in there.
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It's true that Apple never puts everything they could into a single product iteration, but I seriously doubt they would intentionally screw up a product as badly as the reports of limited ram would have me believe. Could this be something caused by poor memory management in iOS 7 (something beyond the lack of swap, and extra headroom required for 64 bit architectures), and hence resolvable in OS updates?
 
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