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There is already a seam on the top of the phone if I am not mistaken. The size of the antenna demands that there be a seam on the side of the phone. What they need to do is develop something that will ground the antenna so that skin won't short it out.

Ah ok - so if that's true, using a case or Apple putting in leather over the GSM antenna is the only solution. Kinda sad!
 
Jobs: "And now I'd like to introduce the iPhone 4 signal enhancement kit. Once again we've outpaced the competition to market with this as well as demonstrated our innovative prowess." Big applause.

Jobs: "And I bet you're wondering what this kit contains? Well here's a picture."

Audience: "OOOOOOHHHHHH." Long applause.

Jobs: "Here we have the iTape and iScissors that make up the kit. I bet they'll try to copy
us but you know we are the orginal and best." Long applause.

Jobs: "Be sure to visit your local Apple store asap to grab one up. The're only $50.00."
 
If Apple is putting a coating on the stainless, or we are covering the antenna with our cases... why didn't Apple just keep the damn antenna *inside* the phone to begin with. Funny, the revolutionary "external," "the phone is the antenna" design appears to be less than ideal. I'd rather have a bit less reception but be able to hold my phone in a more realistic manner, and without the need to spend $$$ on a case I shouldn't need.
 
Why does this issue only occur in areas of weaker signal? Is it because in areas of strong signal, even those some signal IS lost (20db I believe I've read) it's still not enough of a drop to lower the signal by "one bar"?
 
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Simply not true. Read this thread for examples of people who have seen different results with replacement iPhones. The engadget mobile podcast from the 2nd or 3rd also had two people in the same location each try two iphones - one showed the issue far more than the other (so one lost a bar or two but worked fine and the other lost signal).

How could that be? If what Consumer Reports or Antenna Engineers are saying is true - the phone will drop signal when held that way. Whether it will impact the ability to make calls depends on how much signal you had and how much it dropped. So everyone's signal drops just by holding it - that's true as proved by CR and that in itself is a problem.
 
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You sound exactly like the iPod critics circa 2001

A bubble is a bubble is a bubble, even if it takes 10 years to pop. Didn't the real estate bubble start around 2001 too?

Because the adults have better things to do and just pre-order and avoid the lines.

And I imagine they'll be returning their iCrap to Apple the same way...

Didn't Forbes just tab Jobs as the "Smartest CEO in Tech"?

And Apple throws how many millions a year at Forbes in advertising?????

Invasion of the shillbots....

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Jobs: "And now I'd like to introduce the iPhone 4 signal enhancement kit. Once again we've outpaced the competition to market with this as well as demonstrated our innovative prowess." Big applause.

Jobs: "And I bet you're wondering what this kit contains? Well here's a picture."

Audience: "OOOOOOHHHHHH." Long applause.

Jobs: "Here we have the iTape and iScissors that make up the kit. I bet they'll try to copy
us but you know we are the orginal and best." Long applause.

Jobs: "Be sure to visit your local Apple store asap to grab one up. The're only $50.00."

PRICELESS!!!!

This needs to hit every e-mail on the planet.

:apple:
 
"The Pinto Of Smart Phones?"

This story is really getting legs. It's the front page of Yahoo, and my local news radio (1010 WINS New York) daily email update has a lead headline of "The Pinto Of Smart Phones?", with a picture of the iPhone 4.

The Wall Street Journey and Reuters picked it up earlier in the day as well. Those could have more impact...
 

Forbes.. Fortune, who cares. Your "no" response would have been more helpful had you at least expanded upon your "no" and gave the correct magazine name, since your response gives the impression you know the correct name, or at the least you are in complete denial about his award. As it is, your comment was useless.
 
Why does this issue only occur in areas of weaker signal? Is it because in areas of strong signal, even those some signal IS lost (20db I believe I've read) it's still not enough of a drop to lower the signal by "one bar"?

Apple have admitted the signal metering on the iPhone is inaccurate so you can be in a weak signal area and still get 4 or 5 bars displayed.

Apple said:
We have discovered the cause of this dramatic drop in bars, and it is both simple and surprising.

Upon investigation, we were stunned to find that the formula we use to calculate how many bars of signal strength to display is totally wrong. Our formula, in many instances, mistakenly displays 2 more bars than it should for a given signal strength. For example, we sometimes display 4 bars when we should be displaying as few as 2 bars. Users observing a drop of several bars when they grip their iPhone in a certain way are most likely in an area with very weak signal strength, but they don’t know it because we are erroneously displaying 4 or 5 bars. Their big drop in bars is because their high bars were never real in the first place.
 
that's unfair - to the Pinto

This story is really getting legs. It's the front page of Yahoo, and my local news radio (1010 WINS New York) daily email update has a lead headline of "The Pinto Of Smart Phones?", with a picture of the iPhone 4.

The Wall Street Journey and Reuters picked it up earlier in the day as well. Those could have more impact...

Funny, but really unfair to the Pinto.
 
I hope this is referred to in court.....Apple needs to pay big time...if for nothing else their arrogance and lack of wanting to fix the problem.
 
My money's on legal action, or some other "High-pressure" move from Apple.

Jobs will squish Consumer Reports like a bug.

Incoming inexplicable retraction in 3...2...1...
 
Irrelevant.

Incorrect: Magazines are crashing and burning. They will create and hand out any kind of award imaginable to their big ticket advertisers as more BS for the flack machine.

Magazines awards are as worthless as the iPhone 4. Actually, less, because eventually the darned things will HAVE to be fixed.

:apple:
 
Yup....

I'm happy that other organizations like engadget and Consumer Reports are confirming what those of us who have had the iPhone 4 since the day it came out have always known: It's the antenna, stupid.

Having mine in a case helps, but does not work miracles.

Some cases are more equal than others. A clear flexible plastic case did not do the trick. A hard plastic case did. Adding a BSE all around in combination with a hard plastic case even helped the range problem with the bluetooth from my observation.
 
Well, I didn't ned Consumer Reports to tell me this, as I could also easily reproduce the issue. However, I don't hold my phone that way when I make a call. When I am looking at the screen to use an App, however, I do hold it in such a way as to create the issue.

Apple f'd up. Plain and simple. And being called out by Consumer Reports is not a good thing. They really are a great resource for unbiased reports.
 
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