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Consumer Reports 'Can't Recommend' iPhone 4 Due to Signal Issues
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Wow. Is this not the very definition of "troll"? WTF do you want anyway? That everyone switches to Nokia phones and Windows machines? You're welcome to do exactly that, but why have you spent like 5 hours posting on macrumors bashing Apple? Don't you have a job? Do you really have nothing better to do? Seriously, you seem extremely mentally unbalanced, calling for Steve Jobs' head on a pike and all.
Let me tell you something, xbjllb. This is not going to be the revelatory moment you want it to be. What did you imagine exactly? That we would all say, "Oh, we were wrong about Apple products all along" because one product has a couple bugs? Seriously, in your fantasy world, how did you expect people to react? To sell their Apple stock and never touch an Apple product again? Apple is a business, which makes products, which we buy, because we like them. It's not a political movement, it's not a social movement, it's not a philosophical position. It's like a bakery that makes good cookies. If you don't like their cookies, then go to a different bakery, for crying out loud. Okay, so sometimes their products have problems. Big ****ing deal. I find the problems are exceedingly rare with Apple. If you disagree, then you're welcome to not buy them yourself.
Seriously. Go to a different cookie store.
People like you need help. Psychological help. And if it doesn't work, then just jump off a bridge, because you're pretty goddamn useless to the rest of the world. Lunatic.
+1 and this applies to a select few, they know who they are, that seem to have the agenda of inflaming others over many years for the sole reason of passive aggressively dismissing a product while at the same token promoting the products of its competitors. It makes one wonder why they spend so much time on a company and its products they despise.
While healthy criticism is always a good thing, there seems to be a few with an unhealthy attitude.
If you've never had signal issues or dropped calls then either a) A cell tower is outside your bedroom window, b) You are the luckiest SOB on the planet, c) Both A & B.
I've had every generation of iPhone, with the exception of the original 3G. I've had issues with them all. Good thing I don't value my iPhone as a phone as much as I do value it a pocket computer.
The risk of new engineering... the risk of new ideas. Problems usually arise after thousands/milions have already tested the product. Then, complicated by a third party, AT&T. Right-handed individuals surely won't have problems as stated by most iphone users. Left handers are the ones who might have a problem using the phone.
Then again, at the end, it is how you handle the iphone. I don't use the phone by placing my finger on the black gap.
Maybe a hardware problem or a software problem, let's just wait for the fix and see what will happen next...
Then again, at the end, it is how you handle the iphone. I don't use the phone by placing my finger on the black gap.
Maybe a hardware problem or a software problem, let's just wait for the fix and see what will happen next...
YOU haven't been paying attention. I want Apple to concentrate on making cutting-edge COMPUTERS again and quit crapping all over its high end high-ticket pro app customer BASE, not iJunk for iKiddies who, when they go elsewhere, will pop the bubble and bankrupt the company.
I don't think it has to be either or (Ive rocks / Ive sucks). He's a brilliant designer, there's no arguing about it, and his influence on the industry has been monumental... but he has a tendency to get carried away and push it one step too far. Form and function are pulling him in both directions and most of the time he manages to combine the two, but sometimes form steers him off the road. He also has a daredevil streak that occasionally results in experimental stuff not quite ready for mass production (Titanium laptops, weird antenna designs, fanless cubes...)
The MBP and iMac are near-perfect, but these mirror screens are such a nuisance and the only benefit is that they look sexy in ads ("the colors pop more" my ass). As for mice, well... disregarding the hockey puck (fail), I know the Magic and the Mighty have their fans but personally I think they are abominations from an ergonomy/usability perspective. This is an area where Apple is governed by too much foolish pride in the "think different" tradition. Mice with two buttons and a scroll wheel are guaranteed to do the job, but because it's conventional (which is only a negative word if you're pretentious) they just have to think of something else every time, like a car manufacturer hell bent on reinventing the steering wheel.
"How about a regular steering wheel?"
"Boooooring, let's try something different like handle bars."
"Or a steering wheel."
"Lame. How about optical sensors that pick up movements in the air so that you steer the car by pointing your finger?"
"I think we're gonna go with a traditional steering wheel."
"Aarrrrgh. Can we make it square?"
"No."
"Oval?"
"No."
"Stainless steel?"
"That will make people in northern regions freeze to death, and for people in warm regions it will be slippery as hell, and it'll probably give us horrible marks for crash safety."
"So, what, just a circle with leather?"
"Yup."
"I quit."
I am so tired of this issue and disappointed with MacRumors for continuing to fan the flames. It's been documented already. Both the real extent of the issue. The cause. And the remedy. I am tired of being labeled an 'apologist' simply because the phone works for me. Glad you have 'seen' bars dropping. I voted with my wallet, not just keeping the one I bought and tested for me but even bought a second one just this weekend for my wife. In every way it is a better phone for me than the 3GS. 'design flaw' and all.[/QUOTE]
proof that the old saying still works..
"a fool and his money......."
It definitely sucks that you have to use a case, but this phone is so damn good, it really isn't that big of a deal IMO. People need to move on. Either buy a case or bumper, or just take it back. Apple isn't going to crash and burn because of this.
So, you're back to the purely ad hominem posts that add nothing to the discussion.
Reported.
No, not a joke - I have similar results.
For all we know, it might be due to the iPhone processing one frequency better than the other (950/1800 Mhz frequency bands)
So what do you want? Will Apple putting their tail between their legs and coming out and admitting the phone is jacked up to the public make you feel any better? After their admittance the phone will still be jacked up and they will still have to work on a fix as they have already said they are doing. Sounds like you just want to the company to embarrass themselves for the sake of just doing so, it's non-productive and for some of us that own stock it would royally piss many of us off if we lost money just so you can have Apple humiliate themselves.
I've been around forever. I watched Amiga crash and burn without ever once crapping on its high end high-ticket pro app base the way Apple has under Jobs in favor of detestable iFad iCrap for iKiddies who will leave at the drop of a hat for cheaper more functional competition the second it arrives. I've seen the computer line, OS, and pro apps languish and I've seen hundreds of thousands of professionals leave the platform.
I come here to save Apple COMPUTERS, by burying Jobs. AFTER trying every other possible way for over three years, starting with the nice approach.
Disappointed with a site that allows open discussions on this issue, and posts real stories about it? Sounds like maybe you should move to China if you want your web browsing controlled and monitored.
The ones having this issue have real-world experience and understand how very real this is, and if we're upset that we purchased a new phone that doesn't work as well as previous versions, then we can complain about it.
If you don't like it, you can skip this forum discussion, or the forum altogether.
Apple has stated this is NOT an issue (I'm not talking about the bar display issue), and I don't see an issue with "fanning the flames" until they come out with a real statement.
Do you know how frustrating it is to have a real issue, and to have the company state it's not an issue and return it if you want? I am returning my phone, but I can still be upset with that response. I love the iphone 4 except for this design flaw, and I'm even willing to put a bumper on it, if Apples gives me one for free.
So what do you want? Will Apple putting their tail between their legs and coming out and admitting the phone is jacked up to the public make you feel any better? After their admittance the phone will still be jacked up and they will still have to work on a fix as they have already said they are doing. Sounds like you just want to the company to embarrass themselves for the sake of just doing so, it's non-productive and for some of us that own stock it would royally piss many of us off if we lost money just so you can have Apple humiliate themselves.
No, they haven't said they are working on a fix for the reception problems. The only fix they have admitted working on is a fix for the number of bars displayed.
YOU haven't been paying attention. I want Apple to concentrate on making cutting-edge COMPUTERS again and quit crapping all over its high end high-ticket pro app customer BASE, not iJunk for iKiddies who, when they go elsewhere, will pop the bubble and bankrupt the company.
It seems like YOU haven't been paying attention.
Apple has found a market. Revenues are off-the-charts high. Those revenues are being driven by the "iKiddies" market, not the high end, high ticket pro app customer base (which apparently isn't much of a base anyway, as the Mac Pro is testament to).
I noticed that the Apple homepage no longer includes the iPhone 4 subtitle:
"This Changes Everything. Again"
Perhaps they fear it actually could become true. And not in their favor
You read wrong.
I've been around forever. I watched Amiga crash and burn without ever once crapping on its high end high-ticket pro app base the way Apple has under Jobs in favor of detestable iFad iCrap for iKiddies who will leave at the drop of a hat for cheaper more functional competition the second it arrives. I've seen the computer line, OS, and pro apps languish and I've seen hundreds of thousands of professionals leave the platform.
I come here to save Apple COMPUTERS, by burying Jobs. AFTER trying every other possible way for over three years, starting with the nice approach.
Hundreds of thousands.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duct_tape#Etymology
Duct tape can also be a fix for the antenna problem on Apples iPhone 4.
Duct tape can also be a fix for the antenna problem on Apples iPhone 4.
YOU haven't been paying attention. I want Apple to concentrate on making cutting-edge COMPUTERS again and quit crapping all over its high end high-ticket pro app customer BASE, not iJunk for iKiddies who, when they go elsewhere, will pop the bubble and bankrupt the company.
Moron. Yeah, because having an iPhone and iPad prevents you from also owning a 3.2GHz Mac Pro all loaded up with tons of extras, right? Oh wait, it doesn't, because I have a maxed out Mac Pro that I use for video editing, and whaddya know, I also have an iPhone and iPad. What exactly is your problem?
Again, please do find a nice tall bridge... and heck, man... jump!
Regardless of the spins on the topic, this is a widespread problem. It needs to be addressed. Trying to fool us all that its just software depicting the wrong amount of bars won't work this time.
I feel that Apple should find some 100% transparent coating to put over the steel bezel or whatever it's called, so as to create a barrier between one's hand and the antenna