you people really have no clue what your talking about, i follow apple stock daily it can fluctuate 10-15 up or down at any given time .3 dollars is nothing!
Stock not affected by this news. get a grip
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Consumer Reports 'Can't Recommend' iPhone 4 Due to Signal Issues
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you people really have no clue what your talking about, i follow apple stock daily it can fluctuate 10-15 up or down at any given time .3 dollars is nothing!
Stock not affected by this news. get a grip
CR has a reputation for accurate reviews of ketchup and donuts. They can hire all the PhD's they want, the fact is they got scooped by Anand who had a 100x better review a week earlier.
CR is completely irrelevant, they have no reason to exist. Read Anand's review, read CR's review, then tell me who knows what they are talking about and who rushed to finish the article after working late to review the latest Kirspy Kremes.
I'd say that the Anandtech report and CR report had very similar conclusions.
The reception is better, but only if you aren't holding the phone.
Both found that compared to prior iPhone models (and third party devices) the iPhone 4 suffers from significant signal loss when held.
Other sites (such as Engadget) have done similar testing and reached the same conclusion.
It amazes me at the same time it literally pains me how these iPhone fans will ingest all of what they are calling "abuse" from Apple and Jobs, yet continue to remain at the party to take in more abuse. Nobody wants leave the party, this is why it amazes and pains me at the same time.
Here's the same old, same old rants from the dissatisfied iPhone 4 customers yet continue to stay at the party for more abuse:
"I'm pissed that Apple hasn't even acknowledged that there's something wrong with the iPhone 4" (although it was only less than a week since it was released but the bitching started).
"I'm pissed that Jobs told me that I was holding the phone wrong"
"I'm pissed that Apple finally puts out a statement, yet it's not the one I wanted from them"
"I'm pissed that Apple told me to put a bumper on my phone, they should be free" (interesting that most people here who've called in got a free bumper sent to them)
"I'm pissed that Apple didn't care about left handed people and told me to put the phone in my right hand" (isn't your right hand busy sometimes
)
"I'm pissed because Apple won't extend the 30 day return period after the so-called "Fix"
"I'm pissed that Apple thinks we're stupid by telling us that they are fixing the signal bars when there's more wrong with the phone than that"
"I'm pissed at Apple because they temporarily stopped production of the white iPhone 4".
Do you guys ever hear yourselves? Many of the same people rant about every one of these plus more yet they can simply do one thing to rid themselves of all the stress (Unless they like stress, but I don't), they can RETURN THE PHONE, but why won't they?, because Steve has got them wrapped around his finger.
Here's the same old, same old rants from the dissatisfied iPhone 4 customers yet continue to stay at the party for more abuse:
"I'm pissed that Apple hasn't even acknowledged that there's something wrong with the iPhone 4" (although it was only less than a week since it was released but the bitching started).
"I'm pissed that Jobs told me that I was holding the phone wrong"
"I'm pissed that Apple finally puts out a statement, yet it's not the one I wanted from them"
"I'm pissed that Apple told me to put a bumper on my phone, they should be free" (interesting that most people here who've called in got a free bumper sent to them)
"I'm pissed that Apple didn't care about left handed people and told me to put the phone in my right hand" (isn't your right hand busy sometimes
)"I'm pissed because Apple won't extend the 30 day return period after the so-called "Fix"
"I'm pissed that Apple thinks we're stupid by telling us that they are fixing the signal bars when there's more wrong with the phone than that"
"I'm pissed at Apple because they temporarily stopped production of the white iPhone 4".
Do you guys ever hear yourselves? Many of the same people rant about every one of these plus more yet they can simply do one thing to rid themselves of all the stress (Unless they like stress, but I don't), they can RETURN THE PHONE, but why won't they?, because Steve has got them wrapped around his finger.
Oh well, back to making computers then
Wishing out loud of course.
You and me both, buddy!
Though I think these issues will take precedent over a new MacPro release.
all I know is that our local news in vancouver canada is doing a story on it tonight. The fact that it isn't even released here yet and the average person knows nothing about these forums and the current issues, I can see it denting their sales when it is.
I have purchased many items, some big ticket, that CR gave a bad
rating to.
All worked out great and to my advantage. I like reviews from everyday users, not some guy in a lab. His finding may be correct for that situation, but how does it float in the real world?
rating to.
All worked out great and to my advantage. I like reviews from everyday users, not some guy in a lab. His finding may be correct for that situation, but how does it float in the real world?
Do you guys ever hear yourselves? Many of the same people rant about every one of these plus more yet they can simply do one thing to rid themselves of all the stress (Unless they like stress, but I don't), they can RETURN THE PHONE, but why won't they?, because Steve has got them wrapped around his finger.
Agreed.
There's a whole lot of crazy lately
I think it is more likely a production problem. I have no doubt the prototypes work fine, but Apple evidently doesn't have effecting quality control people in China. Otherwise, problems would be nipped in the bud and consumers wouldn't be the ones discovering the problems.
It completely amazes me how when Apple get it a bit wrong the world comes to an end but Microsoft. Dell and most other tech companies produce crap and no one says a word.
I'm not being a fan boy here. I've had my beefs with Apple products, but if eventually they failed to satisfy me I just take them back.
But with Apple it's a huge thing over the slightest fault and the lawyers come out screaming for blood.
Bitchers....... get a life or a different phone
I'm not being a fan boy here. I've had my beefs with Apple products, but if eventually they failed to satisfy me I just take them back.
But with Apple it's a huge thing over the slightest fault and the lawyers come out screaming for blood.
Bitchers....... get a life or a different phone
How wreckless fanboys are getting
return it if u don't like it?
The iPhone is now our life
That's like taking us off life support
seriously - stop copping out - big issue - fix it - because everything else is great except the ****ty notification system and no full bt support
return it if u don't like it?
The iPhone is now our life
That's like taking us off life support
seriously - stop copping out - big issue - fix it - because everything else is great except the ****ty notification system and no full bt support
35 year old parents of teenagers? You really think there are that many teenage mom's who are buying iPhone now for their 13, 14 year old kids?
.......and the sky is falling....and Sadam had weapons of mass destruction.
I guess the avatar says it all
Everyone should do their own 30 day review and see for themselves if its worth keeping. If you find some of the flaws interfere with your using enjoyability take it back. If enough people do this there will be an improved effort on Apples part to get an improved version out quick fast and in a hurry.
If you don't care how it works and will keep it because its an apple product, God Bless you.
If you don't care how it works and will keep it because its an apple product, God Bless you.
That photo looks NOTHING like Dick Cheney!!!
And even less like CIA asset OBL.
Clueless indeed.
I hope it has a noticeable effect. Apple needs a serious pimp slap for trying to tell us there's no design flaw and a software update is all that's required.
As much as I love my phone, Apple deserves this and more. Not so much for making a physically flawed product. It's rare but it happens to the best of them. It's more for the lies and extremely poor handling of the situation.
As much as I love my phone, Apple deserves this and more. Not so much for making a physically flawed product. It's rare but it happens to the best of them. It's more for the lies and extremely poor handling of the situation.
Is there an app that tells you that you're holding it wrong?
Sure. The Phone app.
Go to any place with exactly -90 dBm of signal. Most other cell phones with -109 dBm of receiver sensitivity and 10 to 19 dBm of loss from covering the antenna will hold a connection. The iPhone with -113 dBM of sensitivity and a max 24 dBm loss might drop the call if your hands are moist enough (-90 - 24 = -114 which is probably too weak a signal to communicate).
Any stronger a signal and all the phones, including the i4, should be able to hold the connection. But with a few dBm weaker signal, many other popular cell phones could potentially drop the call in some hold or position.
As you can see, the signal strength range where the i4 behaves differently from other cell phones is actually a limited range, which is probably why only a certain select segment of customers are complaining about this issue. All other customers already were used to bad coverage and dropped calls with previous cell phones, use a case, or had good enough coverage for the i4 even when not optimally handled uncased.
A resonable request. I plan on doing just that..... AT&T upgrade in a few weeks for 2 phones. If it doesn't work or the software fix fails, I plan on exchanging it for the upcoming Samsung Captivate android.