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Consumer Reports: Google Home Max and Sonos One Sound Better Than HomePod
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As you stated, "There is no argument that will change my opinion" how can you even call yourself subjective? Thirdly, yes I only care about "opinion, view, and argument". There is nothing more important about the Homepod than my own opinion; why should I give a damn about yours over mine?
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Agree. I probably wont be buying one since Apple doesn't have a home theater system like our Sonos has. Nor does the Homepod integrate with it. Plus my family is heavily invested in Sonos already. I lol at the people in here that base their opinion off of a you tube person doing it in their parents basement lol. I'm sure there's a few you tube people not in basements, but get real. It isn't all subjective. There is actually science behind it. CR does actually use high tech equipment and rooms to evaluate with with the less aptituded people in here.
Mhh ... because you should be forming your opinion based on facts and scientific evidence?
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No, you should be forming an opinion based on your usage and view-point; by the way the the original poster didn't say the Homepod sounded better (or worse) due to scientific evidence just that they'd reserve judgement until they had scientific evidence.
I never cared about the plot in the first place, those who are arguing about it do.
I care about the art. The other opinions honestly do not matter to me. I have my own opinion / perceive the HomePod to be mediocre, and 90% of the people can disagree with me and I still wouldn't care. I really just want to understand their design, and how it comparatively performs in a scientific way ... so these tests matter to me only in that sense. Off-subject, yes.
"There is no argument that will change my opinion", is extreme subjectiveness. So, how can I call myself subjective? "Easily", which is also subjective.
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Is anyone else running into a problem where the sound suddenly gives out when using as an AirPlay speaker? I’ve had it just drop several times when watching things, and it gets out of sync if I pt the device to sleep. Have to change audio sources back and forth to get it right again.
It wasn't tested in an isolation chamber, read the thread and watch the video. Don't just jump on the bandwagon....
apples and oranges, even if you completely ignore that comparing sound subjectively is downright stupid, especially without a solid reference.
Google has two woofers and tweeters and is essentially a "boombox" (true stereo) setup and is twice as large. Homepod is not. fair would be comparing two homepods.
dunno about sonus one. judging by the size it cant be all that better.
"oh two speakers sound better than one? no **** sherlock"
My 40 years old Namco speakers 2 meters apart each having 60cm in height with 6.5" woofers also probably sound better...
Google has two woofers and tweeters and is essentially a "boombox" (true stereo) setup and is twice as large. Homepod is not. fair would be comparing two homepods.
dunno about sonus one. judging by the size it cant be all that better.
"oh two speakers sound better than one? no **** sherlock"
My 40 years old Namco speakers 2 meters apart each having 60cm in height with 6.5" woofers also probably sound better...
consumer reports has been pretty unbiased in the past in my opinion...i remember they gave glowing reviews of the apple watch.
as a music producer, i scoffed at the glowing reviews of the homepod.
the sound may be pleasing to some, but with that size and power rating it would be impossible to be technically accurate.
given the lackluster performance of siri, wouldn't the best bet for the price be buying an amazon echo dot and an edifier 1000?
as a music producer, i scoffed at the glowing reviews of the homepod.
the sound may be pleasing to some, but with that size and power rating it would be impossible to be technically accurate.
given the lackluster performance of siri, wouldn't the best bet for the price be buying an amazon echo dot and an edifier 1000?
Everyone's entitled to their opinion. If someone thinks the HomePod sounds magical, I personally would not find merit in trying to convince them otherwise. I would instead prefer to be understanding of them, and accepting. Perhaps, realizing that for them it has opened a new realm of enjoyment, and perceiving that to be a beautiful thing. If another person thinks that the HomePod sucks, I will not get bent out of shape because their opinion differs with mine. I would instead perhaps perceive that their standard is just higher (or biased), and maybe they have experienced great audio beyond mine, so I've not entered the realm of perception they have (because I do not think it sucks). If someone posts an article proving that the HomePod is mediocre, I won't suddenly feel more validated in my perception. Because I already know my opinion is valid, just as everyone else's is.
It is because I accept everyone's opinion, without it affecting my own, that I'm left not get wound up about it. I'm not trying to wind you up, you just worry about the opinions more than I. When I say I do not care about the opinions, I am literally saying that I am not worried about the opinions. One of the definitions of care, is worry. Caring is literally a burdened state of mind. My lack of worrying about opinions, doesn't mean I cannot appreciate them. I think it's a great thing if the HomePod opens someone to a new realm of enjoyment, personally it did not do that for me.
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*reads threads*
I know I’m new here, but y’all terrify me.
I know I’m new here, but y’all terrify me.
I would say the same. but it does not sound as good as the sonos 5's we have. but my wife is blind and she uses siri a lot and keeps working then barely working then not working. it is nice to say skip ahead 1 minute and it does.
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I agree but it does not sound better then the sonos 5. but then again my 600+ floor standing speakers sound better then the pair of sonos 5's. but siri and the lack of music the homepod will stream are some very big limiting factors. I bought sonos maybe 3 or so years ago for my blind wife because the app was os voiceover friendly and airplay and using separate apps was a nightmare for her. then alexa came out to control sonos and it has been great. my wife had to get the homepod and loves the sound but it is so limited for her compared to the sonos. Plus she would have to buy another to get any stereo. when you rely on siri it can be very frustrating. I told her she needs to turn off voiceover on the homepod and see if that helps. voiceover causes so many bugs in apple products.
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Consumer reports use Apple to stay relevant.
Who uses consumer reports anymore will all the review sites out there?
Remember their battery test. It was based on like three tests and said the battery stunk?
Not having heard any of the speakers, I can almost guarantee the homepod is better.
Full disclosure: I just bought the sonos one in lieu of the homepod.
Who uses consumer reports anymore will all the review sites out there?
Remember their battery test. It was based on like three tests and said the battery stunk?
Not having heard any of the speakers, I can almost guarantee the homepod is better.
Full disclosure: I just bought the sonos one in lieu of the homepod.
Have you tried skipping multiple tracks?
Oddly, the first few times I said "Hey Siri skip four tracks" ... and it actually did. I confirmed this when I checked my iPhone to see how many more tracks needed to be skipped for me to be at the play position I wanted in the playlist. But later on when I tried it again with a different playlist, it wasn't working, it would only skip one track at a time. Tried saying it at different volumes, even putting my face one inch away from the HomePod, tried enunciating, no dice, it still kept skipping one track. Curious.
I will repeat again your view point or opinion is one thing the way you form it is as important. One thing is to say i like colour blue and banana ice cream which is fine because it is a preference and another thing is to say that something sounds better in your opinion when it can be objectively and scientifically tested and proved to be false.
To me just having an opinion is not enough.
I mean, yeah...i guess I know what you mean. It kind of makes sense. But I think that the problem is less the beamforming, since other products ( including Google Max i think) have similar methods and still sound great in unusual environments. I think the problem is more the 360° sound...
So, even in a usual livingroom I believe that the result would be similar. Cause the other speaker are facing and "throwing" their whole "power" towards the testing-instruments/ the listener. With the hp, lots of sound is bouncing off (and lost) to all other sides.
Plus, the seven speakers are freaking tiny. And only about two of them are "firing" towards the listener.
So even with its "beamforming" mabojumbo, I believe that lots of sound is lost, especially since sound also degrades as soon as it "bounces off" of something (like a wall).
While the hp may fill the room from every side (especially if placed in the middle of the room), it unfortunately doesn't benefit the listener. I guess a group of people would benefit if sitting "around" the hp...
The home max has way bigger speaker facing and filling the important space.
But that's just my opinion, perhaps it would be useful but not necessary to adjust the conditions while testing.
They could make both tests, as long as it doesn't favor the hp i guess.
In the end, its not the others speaker "fault" that the hp is a bad performer in unusual environments. The others handle both very well.
Edit; After re-reading your post I noticed that that's basically what you said. Sry...