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its also ideal to say the plastic phones backs from Samsung, while they break or scratch more, hey are "not as bendable"

So this is probably one why manufactures use plastic backs as well...

Plastic does bend, but at least it bends back.

(Edits: wicked shades.) Who knew this thread would go on for so long.
 
A quote from someone on the Apple forums;

Don't put your iPhone in your pocket without a protective case. Apple has never recommended putting an iPhone in your pocket, but they have recommended putting a case on the device. Use some logic & common sense.
 
A quote from someone on the Apple forums;

Don't put your iPhone in your pocket without a protective case. Apple has never recommended putting an iPhone in your pocket, but they have recommended putting a case on the device. Use some logic & common sense.



Someone in that SAME THREAD just said that the ISSUE IS SHEARING FORCE

i.e. a design flaw in construction

Hmm
 
Someone in that SAME THREAD just said that the ISSUE IS SHEARING FORCE

i.e. a design flaw in construction

Hmm

Thing is which ever force is acting on it, and regardless of how many different forces there are. Fact is that less of them, significantly less of them, are required to bend this as opposed to the outgoing models.

Apple, this time you got it wrong.
 
Thing is which ever force is acting on it, and regardless of how many different forces there are. Fact is that less of them, significantly less of them, are required to bend this as opposed to the outgoing models.

Apple, this time you got it wrong.



the idiots that RUSHED to buy it.........ALL the intelligent people KNOW these peoples are unofficial BETA TESTERS


let them TEST it in the field.


the wise few of us will wait for it to be fixed......This sort of &*@@ happens all the time.
 
the idiots that RUSHED to buy it.........ALL the intelligent people KNOW these peoples are unofficial BETA TESTERS


let them TEST it in the field.


the wise few of us will wait for it to be fixed......This sort of &*@@ happens all the time.

I’m not so sure I’d go as far as to call them all idiots. Somebody has to be the first to buy it after all. But let’s say that it probably wasn’t their finest ever judgement assuming they knew about it beforehand. That said there will be plenty of people who never stress their phone and/or put it in a strong case and for them this device is fine.
But yes. In this case at least AAPL=FAIL
 
Flaw:

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The mounting point of the reinforcement plate is improperly designed. As a result, iPhones bend when carried in pants pockets.

If that reinforcement plate had been slightly longer and mounted in a way so that it could not pivot, this entire thread would not exist.

You are taking that HYPOTHESIS made just looking at someone else's photo without ANY scientific test as a fact, while it's not

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DUDE!!! This is not about bending the phone with your bare hands on purpose, but wearing your phone on a day-to-day basis! If the phone bends in your jeans then it's unacceptable, no matter what the Apple PR tries to sell you.

IF IT BENDS IN YOUR JEANS POCKETS, IT'S A HUGE FLAW -> BIG DESIGN & ENGINEERING FAILURE!

Apple just sucks! :mad:

It doesn't bend in your pockets until someone prove it

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No doubt about that. There are armchair experts here at every profession. I'm surprised Apple doesn't recruit here. :D

You are right. Apple has all the solutions in this forum. How stupid they are not to recruit those experienced talented geniuses?

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Personally I wouldn't carry a large screen phone in my back pocket and sit on it, I think that's pushing your luck. It would be great if you could, but.....
On the other hand, I think you should be able to carry the phone in your front pocket and not worry about it. But if it digs hard into your leg or waist when sitting, driving, kneeling etc, you probably need pants with bigger pockets.

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That would go a long way toward explaining things. :eek:

... our just take it out of your pockets while seated :D

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"Probably", that is very scientific.. Must write a treaty based on your back of the envelloppe gut feeling, maybe you'll even win a Nobel prize. Seriously, do you even read what you write!!!

I trust Apple, which has more material and mechanical engineers than whole MIT departments, than you, countless forum trolls or a few random guys on the street bent on destruction for a buck.

As someone who spent 2 years in material and mechanical engineering (before switching to computer engineering) and having worked with real live material and mechanical engieners in a few companies, I can't belive the amount of plain insanity, and complete utter misunderstandng of how engineering works, but also how businesses devellop products!!!

In the 1960s, engineers and scientitist were treated with respect, but nowaday, everyone and their mother is a specialist in well, EVERYTHING. Engineers might as well skip university since a guy with two hands is able to devellop and run tests better than any them... (sic)
You are right. People here WANT to believe YouTube trolls over very talented engineer because they like those conclusion. They basically WANT Apple to fail, so they are very happy about unconfirmed silly videos.
 
You are taking that HYPOTHESIS made just looking at someone else's photo without ANY scientific test as a fact, while it's not
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DEAD WRONG SON, 100%



Its called SHEARING FORCE


Shearing forces are unaligned forces pushing one part of a body in one direction, and another part of the body in the opposite direction. When the forces are aligned into each other, they are called compression forces. An example is a deck of cards being pushed one way on the top, and the other at the bottom, causing the cards to slide. Another example is when wind blows at the side of a peaked roof of a home - the side walls experience a force at their top pushing in the direction of the wind, and their bottom in the opposite direction, from the ground or foundation. William A. Nash defines shear force in terms of planes: "If a plane is passed through a body, a force acting along this plane is called a shear force or shearing force


AND, Apple Inc. NOR Consumer reports TESTED FOR THIS.




Look it up, since you are illiterate of this fact.


And it IS scientific fact.


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And...surprise surprise....this is the same exact spot that the iphone 5/5s bent too, right under the volume buttons. Apple just doesn't learn, do they? Apple used to be a good company, greedy, yes, but they used to be good BEFORE the iphone came out. Ever since then, they have completely lost focus. And that's why I will never buy another apple product again. I have a 2007 macbook (the one with the design flaw where the top case cracks), I have an early 2009 iMac, the very last model of iPod classic (160gb) and an iPhone 4 which I only use as an ipod touch because I now have a galaxy s3 LTE/4g (the one that is practically the same as the s4).

If my macs die, I'll just replace the logic board myself rather than buying a new mac. Apple doesn't need anymore money from me.
Is your comment more than a statement about you being an Apple hater?
Nice to know.

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DEAD WRONG SON, 100%



Its called SHEARING FORCE


Shearing forces are unaligned forces pushing one part of a body in one direction, and another part of the body in the opposite direction. When the forces are aligned into each other, they are called compression forces. An example is a deck of cards being pushed one way on the top, and the other at the bottom, causing the cards to slide. Another example is when wind blows at the side of a peaked roof of a home - the side walls experience a force at their top pushing in the direction of the wind, and their bottom in the opposite direction, from the ground or foundation. William A. Nash defines shear force in terms of planes: "If a plane is passed through a body, a force acting along this plane is called a shear force or shearing force


AND, Apple Inc. NOR Consumer reports TESTED FOR THIS.




Look it up, since you are illiterate of this fact.


And it IS scientific fact.


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You too keep analysing someone else's photos considering it as a proof of a totally BS hypothesis.
 
No, it's not because.... They don't like the conclusions? :D


Apples 3 POINT TEST did not taken into account ONE THING



PROXIMITY SHEARING.



Again, you lose.


Full length TORQUE (both ends) and single point PRESSURE (the 3 point test)...........

.......this does not test for PROXIMITY SHEARING as is typical from carry in jeans.



Angle bending, proximity shearing is not, WAS not, DID not get tested in the 3 point test.

Try again, back to the books with you.
 
"“I plugged the phone in to charge overnight, and nothing was amiss,” Latiolais tells GeekWire. “I’d been taking a lot of photos and was so paranoid about hurting my brand new phone that I kept it in my coat pocket or hand all night. When I got home, I propped the phone against the wall to charge overnight. When I pulled it off the charger in the morning, it was bent along the angle it leaned on the wall. It’s almost as if it sagged. In fact, looking closely at it … I can see it’s not so much bent as curved, rounded almost.”"

So my question: Who charges their phone like this?

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Sorry, story smells fishy.
He most probably bent it before plugging in to charge, but realized that only in the morning....

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Nope, sorry, it wasn't. I know because I only owned the phone for four days before it bent. This and I have never placed an iPhone in my back pocket, ever.

Again - most likely explanation is that it bent in my front pocket from sitting down repeatedly. And again - this never happened to my 3G, 4, 4S, 5 or 5S under the same pattern of usage.

Deny away however I present facts here, that's all I do. Cue sceptics attacks.
I'm not attacking you in any way. I just keep thinking you bent it inadvertently by sitting on it. And I'm happy they gave you a new one.

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The article says "not as bendable as believed", implying that you won't accidentally bend it by having it in your pocket. If you want to be optimistic, you can say that the iPhone 6 is relatively weak, but it's still strong enough, so it doesn't matter (like when comparing phone screen pixel densities).

That's the correct conclusion.

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It shouldn't bend like that. I agree it's not a normal usage but this will happen progressively through time with normal usage. Slight bends will happen and after a year the phone will be bend

No it won't happen over the time, because that aren't forces normally applied to a phone during normal usage.

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This test speaks very, very poorly for Consumer Reports and what they are suppose to represent.

We don’t want a test at the strongest point of the phone. We want to know how they hold up at the very weakest areas where a phone will actually bend during normal use.

And one other thing, as long as phone makers replace bent phone in the first 2 years of normal use then this issue simply goes away. I think Consumer Reports will have to conduct a real world test and right away.

The information that they failed to bring into account is the specific weak point on the iPhone 6 Plus – this is where almost everyone’s iPhone has bent. This test, however, measures the overall structural integrity, and completely ignores the previously identified weak point. Though, to be honest, I have no idea why they didn’t address the weak point, considering they referenced the one main video, and that guy verbally comments on it in his video. I don’t know how you can reference a video, choose to challenge the observations in that video, then completely ignore the actual data in favor of your own simplified, controlled test, and sincerely proclaim that your findings are a valid counter argument.

Again, this is a nice test to see how much pressure it takes to bend phones with equally distributed force, right in the center of each device … but, that wasn’t the original issue. This resolves very little with this problem. Thank you, Consumer Reports, for essentially wasting your time and money on nothing.
If you know something about physics you should know the CR test applied to the weakest point of a slate....

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Samsung's latest Apple-bashing ad :D

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Strange enough there aren't so many reports about initial low quality control issues affecting note 4 ....

http://www.gsmarena.com/first_samsung_galaxy_note_4_units_plagued_by_build_issues-news-9786.php

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I love the posts praising CR in this thread. When they praise or write positive things about Apple, they are relevant and "legit." When they don't - they are a publication no one reads or cares about.

Too funny.

No one is praising CR. Just the controlled scientific test they made.
 
He most probably bent it before plugging in to charge, but realized that only in the morning....

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I'm not attacking you in any way. I just keep thinking you bent it inadvertently by sitting on it. And I'm happy they gave you a new one.

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That's the correct conclusion.

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No it won't happen over the time, because that aren't forces normally applied to a phone during normal usage.

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If you know something about physics you should know the CR test applied to the weakest point of a slate....

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Strange enough there aren't so many reports about initial low quality control issues affecting note 4 ....

http://www.gsmarena.com/first_samsung_galaxy_note_4_units_plagued_by_build_issues-news-9786.php

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No one is praising CR. Just the controlled scientific test they made.
Wot? You are joking right? CR were vilified during antenna gate. Now they are praised and you know it.
Lewis Hamilton couldn’t do a doughnut in an F1 car quicker than you did that turnaround.
 
He most probably bent it before plugging in to charge, but realized that only in the morning....

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I'm not attacking you in any way. I just keep thinking you bent it inadvertently by sitting on it. And I'm happy they gave you a new one.

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That's the correct conclusion.

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No it won't happen over the time, because that aren't forces normally applied to a phone during normal usage.

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If you know something about physics you should know the CR test applied to the weakest point of a slate....

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Strange enough there aren't so many reports about initial low quality control issues affecting note 4 ....

http://www.gsmarena.com/first_samsung_galaxy_note_4_units_plagued_by_build_issues-news-9786.php

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No one is praising CR. Just the controlled scientific test they made.

***ggg***

The more you are posting the more you get into trouble, you realize this ? Ummm, why ...

Kelly has some good points.
 
"Sometimes when you innovate,you make mistakes.It is best to admit them quickly and get on with improving your other innovations." S. Jobs
 
They don't. They are all scared of bendghazi.

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This one is very thin admittedly. You have experience of previous iPhones. You only subject your to normal use.
All your admissions.

So why are you watching it closely?

They don't. They are all scared of bendghazi.

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This one is very thin admittedly. You have experience of previous iPhones. You only subject your to normal use.
All your admissions.

So why are you watching it closely?

Seriously, you just don't listen do you.

Exactly what I said...This particular iPhone is extremely thin and very light – that's why. Based on past experience, I expect that I'll have no issues, but again this one is very thin. Secondly there have been a handful of people here claiming that their iPhone bent for no good reason. While these claims remain unsubstantiated at this point, I have no reason to disbelieve them.

It's no different than if a few guys at the coffee shop claimed to all be having brake problems on their 2014 Chevy Malibu's. If I owned a 2014 chevy Malibu, I'd pay a little more attention to how my brakes performed. That's what a normal person would do.

You and a few others are trying to make this sound like it's a colossal, widespread epidemic when in reality, at this point anyway, the facts do not support that theory.

I have repeatedly said that it's not impossible that Apple might have a big issue here. It could be a small issue. Perhaps a minor manufacturing defect not uncommon in any industry for a brand new design. It also might be nothing at all.

It's still too early to say, but if you look at the facts as they stand today, it appears to be a very few incidences of isolated yet unsubstantiated claims out of millions and millions of devices sold. If the issue is as serious and widespread as you want everyone to believe, we would know about it. It would be everywhere in the news. People would be losing their s***.

I remain in the very reasonable position of "wait and see" but in the meantime, I'll enjoy my new iPhone 6, which is easily the best iPhone I have owned to date.
 
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If the iPhone 6 bends or not is pretty moot when there are better options.

Quite honestly, I have my phones in an Titanium case regardless. It makes good metal working practice for modding. :apple:
 
... I'll enjoy my new iPhone 6, which is easily the best iPhone I have owned to date.

I don't doubt this at all, but you need to use this statement in a meaningful context.

What would be if the best supercomputer, the best numbercruncher ever would fail because you lean on it ?

That's the issue. In fact we are talking about the housing, nothing else. But ... a weak housing could make the best iPhone ever quite unusable.
 
Seriously, you just don't listen do you.

Exactly what I said...This particular iPhone is extremely thin and very light – that's why. Based on past experience, I expect that I'll have no issues, but again this one is very thin. Secondly there have been a handful of people here claiming that their iPhone bent for no good reason. While these claims remain unsubstantiated at this point, I have no reason to disbelieve them.

It's no different than if a few guys at the coffee shop claimed to all be having brake problems on their 2014 Chevy Malibu's. If I owned a 2014 chevy Malibu, I'd pay a little more attention to how my brakes performed. That's what a normal person would do.

You and a few others are trying to make this sound like it's a colossal, widespread epidemic when in reality, at this point anyway, the facts do not support that theory.

I have repeatedly said that it's not impossible that Apple might have a big issue here. It could be a small issue. Perhaps a minor manufacturing defect not uncommon in any industry for a brand new design. It also might be nothing at all. If you look at all of the devices sold, the number of unsubstantiated issues is still extremely low.

It's still too early to say, but if you look at the facts as they stand today, it appears to be a very few incidences of isolated yet unsubstantiated claims. If the issue is as serious and widespread as you want everyone to believe, we would know about it. It would be everywhere in the news. People would be losing their s***.

I remain in the very reasonable position of "wait and see" but in the meantime, I'll enjoy my new iPhone 6, which is easily the best iPhone I have owned to date.

You do not have the faith in it that you would like to have. Admit it, you’ve said as much above.
You really are a bundle of contradictions aren’t you.
My phone won’t break but I worry about it cos it’s so thin…….. EH?

You know what, I have faith that my son will steal no money from me. I can leave money around the house and I don’t even count it when I pick it up. If you have complete faith in something you do not check up on it or worry about it except in extreme circumstances.
I have complete faith in my 5S for normal and use that goes beyond normal. I have checked it for straighness once. This was not last year when there were other stories about bending phones. This was when I was reading this thread. I applied significant force to it to guage its strength after hearing about the 6. It’s not knackered at all that I can detect.

You are lying to yourself.

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https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/even-guy-says-bent-iphone-150315991.html

Here's an unsubstantiated story that will be rejected :)

Funny how some unsubstantiated stories are more credible than others here.

I stopped and discounted the story when I got to here;
He says his thumbs were sore for the next 20 minutes. Now he has exaggerated too much.
 
I stopped and discounted the story when I got to here;
He says his thumbs were sore for the next 20 minutes. Now he has exaggerated too much.

Yet when you have video proof of those kids thumbs turning white with the force they were exerting and their hands shaking you declared the sky is falling.

You're just picking and choosing what you want believe.

I love it.
 
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