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Consumer Reports: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus Not as Bendable as Believed

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AppleScruff1 said:
No. I have posted a few times in this thread that it takes some force to bend it by hand and that if you intentionally try to do so, it will bend. But that doesn't mean it will bend easily in my pocket, just as the CR test doesn't mean it won't.

A few more weeks should show which way this will go. So far there aren't. Mass reports of t his being a problem. We have two users in this thread who did have a problem, but that doesn't seem to be common so far at MR.
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Agreed. It's nice that there at least a few people who are willing to wait for this to play out before jumping to conclusions one way or the the other.

I have held some of the other phones that you mentioned earlier. They all seemed like solid devices to me and I would expect them all to easily be fine in day to day use.

I do really like the thinness and light weight of the iPhone 6 as far as how it feels in my front pocket. My 6 seems to be solidly built. That said, there is no prize that I am aware of for being the thinnest and the lightest. The thing still needs to survive day to day use. Apple may have a problem on it's hands if it doesn't measure up.

I one thing that I'm not fussy about is the 6 seems a bit slippery. I'm considering the leather case or soft silicone one. My nephew bought a Nexus phone this summer, and it felt really nice in the hand...Except I prefer iOS. Other than that I was impressed.
 
Bilbo63 said:
Agreed. It's nice that there at least a few people who are willing to wait for this to play out before jumping to conclusions one way or the the other.

I have held some of the other phones that you mentioned earlier. They all seemed like solid devices to me and I would expect them all to easily be fine in day to day use.

I do really like the thinness and light weight of the iPhone 6 as far as how it feels in my front pocket. My 6 seems to be solidly built. That said, there is no prize that I am aware of for being the thinnest and the lightest. The thing still needs to survive day to day use. Apple may have a problem on it's hands if it doesn't measure up.

I one thing that I'm not fussy about is the 6 seems a bit slippery. I'm considering the leather case or soft silicone one. My nephew bought a Nexus phone this summer, and it felt really nice in the hand...Except I prefer iOS. Other than that I was impressed.
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I agree about the slipperiness. IMO, a case is a must, which in a way contradicts making the phone so thin. I know my iPad Air is ridiculously slippery without a case, and the new phone seems to be too.
 
Trapezoid said:
Pretty sure none of the defense has been "God himself cannot bend this phone"either.

It definitely bends. It hasn't been proven that it verbs with normal use. That's all that's ever been said in this thread by the people not claiming a catastrophic ...
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well my point wasn't much to do with the phone anyway.. just saying white knuckles aren't really a sign of great force.. I can pinch a finger and thumb together and my knuckles turn white after what-- 20lbs pressure?
 
AppleScruff1 said:
I agree about the slipperiness. IMO, a case is a must, which in a way contradicts making the phone so thin. I know my iPad Air is ridiculously slippery without a case, and the new phone seems to be too.
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I never had a problem with slipperiness with my air. Those safari tab reloads though...

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flat five said:
well my point wasn't much to do with the phone anyway.. just saying white knuckles aren't really a sign of great force.. I can pinch a finger and thumb together and my knuckles turn white after what-- 20lbs pressure?
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I got you, and I agree. But I think the video shows they're not just pinching their fingers together. There's clear force being exerted.
 
Trapezoid said:
I never had a problem with slipperiness with my air. Those safari tab reloads though...
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I found it to be very slippery to use on my lap with no case and also to carry around. The case doesn't bother me, but the tab reloading is a major issue. It really takes away from an otherwise excellent experience.
 
AppleScruff1 said:
I agree about the slipperiness. IMO, a case is a must, which in a way contradicts making the phone so thin. I know my iPad Air is ridiculously slippery without a case, and the new phone seems to be too.
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I think that the only iPhone that I didn't use a case on was the 3G. For the others I always used a case mostly because they felt slippery. I also have never put my phone in my back pocket...It just seemed like a bad idea. My front left pocket is my phone pocket and that's all that goes in there.
 
AppleScruff1 said:
I found it to be very slippery to use on my lap with no case and also to carry around. The case doesn't bother me, but the tab reloading is a major issue. It really takes away from an otherwise excellent experience.
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Interesting. Tbh, I don't carry it around much so I probably don't have the experience with it.

Tab reloading, yes major issue. I've had reloads with two tabs.

I'm waiting for the day when it reloads while I'm scrolling a page lol
 
Trapezoid said:
Interesting. Tbh, I don't carry it around much so I probably don't have the experience with it.

Tab reloading, yes major issue. I've had reloads with two tabs.

I'm waiting for the day when it reloads while I'm scrolling a page lol
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I'll smash mine if it reloads while scrolling. :D And I haven't updated to iOS 8 yet either.
 
AppleScruff1 said:
I agree about the slipperiness. IMO, a case is a must, which in a way contradicts making the phone so thin. I know my iPad Air is ridiculously slippery without a case, and the new phone seems to be too.
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Actually, it might validate a reason for it being so thin. That way, with a case it will be no thicker than other phones Naked. Personally I've never used a case on any of my iPhones. Now, I think I think needing a case contradicts having a beautiful design. Just me

H2SO4 said:
Suzuki don’t. You should have seen the mess CR made of the Samurai.
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I'm curious, H2 (interesting name you've chosen btw... Sulfuric Acid is it??). What is the end result you are trying to achieve by all these posts? Is it to bring awareness to the issue? That's already been accomplished by many media outlets. Is it to slow down sales of the new phones? Sure.. Maybe all this vitriol in the media will have some effect. Are you trying to force Apple's hand and make a better product in the future? That will happen in time on it's own if this does become a real issue. Nothing forces a corporations hand quicker than revenue loss. Or is there some other motive? It seems to me that there is a lot of time and energy being spent on trying to prove a point that is based on opinions of what every-day use is, and the amount of force it REALLY takes to damage a phone. I'm curious.
 
iceperson said:
Exactly. I have no idea how much force is being exerted on my phone while it's in my front pocket. The only thing I know for certain is the iPhone 6 bends at half the force needed as my iPhone 5. Is that good enough? I have no idea, but I'm certainly not willing to lay down $400 for a device that I'm not certain will hold up to the way I store my phone for the next 2 years. I have no intention of buying an Android phone either way, but I'll certainly wait for the 6s if I feel I need to.
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Ok.....:cool:
 
kdarling said:
True, but we don't know the actual percentage. "Nine contacted Apple" was a cherry picked number that studiously ignored other contact venues, and is unlikely to be updated even if it was in the hundreds by now.
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Something occurred to me regarding this, it may be that they simply didn't have the numbers from other venues given that the statement was made pretty close to the release, that is it doesn't have to be "cherry picked" or "studiosly ignored" as you put it. But it doesn't matter, because given the volume they have sold it's safe to say that it's still enough to know if it's an issue or not. I think the message they tried to convey was that it's not an issue.
 
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Trapezoid said:
Pretty sure none of the defense has been "God himself cannot bend this phone"either.

It definitely bends. It hasn't been proven that it bends with normal use. That's all that's ever been said in this thread by the people not claiming a catastrophic design flaw.


All companies mess up, apple included. What's your point?
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In that case it wasn’t a mess up. It was a deliberate cover up and falsehood. Also it hasn’t really been out long enough to prove that is doesn’t bend with normal use.
 
H2SO4 said:
In that case it wasn’t a mess up. It was a deliberate cover up and falsehood. Also it hasn’t really been out long enough to prove that is doesn’t bend with normal use.
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What was a deliberate cover up and falsehood?

And yes, I know it hasn't been out long enough, which is why it makes no sense that you're already declaring it a flaw.
 
The only other way I can see a phone bending would be if you are wearing super tight skinny jeans (so tight your butt whistles when you walk) and you bend over with your phone in your back pocket. Maybe then it would curve around your butt with all the force? I don't know but this is ridiculous.

I know one guy that could get one for free paid for by the company and he won't because the phones "bend". Mindless drones. SMH.
 
appleii.c said:
Actually, it might validate a reason for it being so thin. That way, with a case it will be no thicker than other phones Naked. Personally I've never used a case on any of my iPhones. Now, I think I think needing a case contradicts having a beautiful design. Just me



I'm curious, H2 (interesting name you've chosen btw... Sulfuric Acid is it??). What is the end result you are trying to achieve by all these posts? Is it to bring awareness to the issue? That's already been accomplished by many media outlets. Is it to slow down sales of the new phones? Sure.. Maybe all this vitriol in the media will have some effect. Are you trying to force Apple's hand and make a better product in the future? That will happen in time on it's own if this does become a real issue. Nothing forces a corporations hand quicker than revenue loss. Or is there some other motive? It seems to me that there is a lot of time and energy being spent on trying to prove a point that is based on opinions of what every-day use is, and the amount of force it REALLY takes to damage a phone. I'm curious.
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It is Sulphuric Acid, yes.
No agenda. I got into the discussion as did others here and put across my point as have others here.
If Apple have made a mistake they should feel some pain if not then they will emerge from this victorious and smelling of roses. I will be there to cheer them. I have many Apple devices and I will call the obvious fails and champion the wins. I still and will continue to, and will even force friends to buy their goods, (but not this particular item).
Apple have a very close passionate following and unfortunately they seem more tenacious than those of other brands.
Again, best example I can give is from the official Apple discussion forums. There are well documented issues that Apple initailly tried to brush under the carpet. Things like Antennagate and the graphics card failures for hardware and the G-Mail and MobileMe issues for software. Look how badly new users are baptised by the long term posters for suggesting Apple might be imperfect. Some of those have been around for years and have massive forum ratings. When it comes to light that the fail was on the part of Apple, (ie a recall or bug fix), they are nowhere to be seen.
No apology no nothing. There are a few of those here too.

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Trapezoid said:
What was a deliberate cover up and falsehood?

And yes, I know it hasn't been out long enough, which is why it makes no sense that you're already declaring it a flaw.
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Without meaning to be rude if you just google the term. Consumer Reports Suzuki Samurai, you’ll see.
I’d argue that any product that doesn’t exceed its predecessor in most ways and certainly in one like this isn’t something to shout about.
I’d raise my eyebrows right round the back of my head if BMW released the new 5 Series and said that although it was a lot weaker than the old one it was still perfectly safe.
 
H2SO4 said:
It is Sulphuric Acid, yes.
No agenda. I got into the discussion as did others here and put across my point as have others here.
If Apple have made a mistake they should feel some pain if not then they will emerge from this victorious and smelling of roses. I will be there to cheer them. I have many Apple devices and I will call the obvious fails and champion the wins. I still and will continue to, and will even force friends to buy their goods, (but not this particular item).
Apple have a very close passionate following and unfortunately they seem more tenacious than those of other brands.
Again, best example I can give is from the official Apple discussion forums. There are well documented issues that Apple initailly tried to brush under the carpet. Things like Antennagate and the graphics card failures for hardware and the G-Mail and MobileMe issues for software. Look how badly new users are baptised by the long term posters for suggesting Apple might be imperfect. Some of those have been around for years and have massive forum ratings. When it comes to light that the fail was on the part of Apple, (ie a recall or bug fix), they are nowhere to be seen.
No apology no nothing. There are a few of those here too.

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Without meaning to be rude if you just google the term. Consumer Reports Suzuki Samurai, you’ll see.
I’d argue that any product that doesn’t exceed its predecessor in most ways and certainly in one like this isn’t something to shout about.
I’d raise my eyebrows right round the back of my head if BMW released the new 5 Series and said that although it was a lot weaker than the old one it was still perfectly safe.
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Oh ok yes sorry I didn't realize that you were talking about that based on what you quoted. I'll read up on it.

The car analogy is way off base. You won't die if your iPhone 6 is 50% more bendable. Let's keep things in perspective, it's good for honest discussion.
 
H2SO4 said:
Without meaning to be rude if you just google the term. Consumer Reports Suzuki Samurai, you’ll see.
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You're still going with this? It's a dishonest way of putting things imho, and I've seen you do it about ten times now. It's things like this that is the reason why some people question if you have an agenda.
 
Trapezoid said:
Oh ok yes sorry I didn't realize that you were talking about that based on what you quoted. I'll read up on it.

The car analogy is way off base. You won't die if your iPhone 6 is 50% more bendable. Let's keep things in perspective, it's good for honest discussion.
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The implications are completely different but the principle is spot on. Right, gotta cook some chicken now…...

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subsonix said:
You're still going with this? It's a dishonest way of putting things imho, and I've seen you do it about ten times now. It's things like this that is the reason why some people question if you have an agenda.
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Why is it dishonest?
 
H2SO4 said:
It is Sulphuric Acid, yes.
No agenda. I got into the discussion as did others here and put across my point as have others here.
If Apple have made a mistake they should feel some pain if not then they will emerge from this victorious and smelling of roses. I will be there to cheer them. I have many Apple devices and I will call the obvious fails and champion the wins. I still and will continue to, and will even force friends to buy their goods, (but not this particular item).
Apple have a very close passionate following and unfortunately they seem more tenacious than those of other brands.
Again, best example I can give is from the official Apple discussion forums. There are well documented issues that Apple initailly tried to brush under the carpet. Things like Antennagate and the graphics card failures for hardware and the G-Mail and MobileMe issues for software. Look how badly new users are baptised by the long term posters for suggesting Apple might be imperfect. Some of those have been around for years and have massive forum ratings. When it comes to light that the fail was on the part of Apple, (ie a recall or bug fix), they are nowhere to be seen.
No apology no nothing. There are a few of those here too.
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I don't believe public apologies, or lack of, are exclusive to Apple. I'm sure there are huge ramifications in an apology for something like this. Admitting guilt would open op recalls, lawsuits etc and have serious financial repercussions. I do recall them apologizing for the Maps fiasco, and the latest ios 8.0.1 release. so they DO apologize on occasion.

Do you think this is something exclusive of Apple Inc.? Do you not think ANY company with the market share Apple has, and the number of stock holders Apple has would act any differently? And in my opinion, that tenacity by forum members seems to be more prevalent in the so called "haters" than in the fans. I personally have NEVER posted a negative comment regarding an android device or release on any android forum. I have zero memberships in any android forums and could care less what "Gate" Samsung is going through other than to make a mention of it in passing. I think that tenacity you see is mostly "us" defending a product and company we like in a forum we believe (falsely i have come to see) is a safe haven for us, well with the sites name and all.

I haven't read every post on this matter (bendgate), and I personally don't believe Apple is perfect. But lately, I have a hard time finding any company that is even close to it (but that's another topic for another day). Personally, I think you are being a little bit sensationalist in your assessment of the frailty of the new iPhone, but it's simply my opinion of YOUR opinions. You haven't disrespected anyone other than maybe throwing the fanboy comment in an earlier post, and you've kept it all very mild mannered. Although I don't agree with you, if you came here tomorrow asking for some advice on an Apple product, I would gladly try to help you. And I can assure you, if there were a certification for being an Apple fan, I'd own one.
 
H2SO4 said:
The implications are completely different but the principle is spot on. Right, gotta cook some chicken now…..
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We'll agree to disagree that cars passing safety tests and iphones bending are different in principle....
 
All this talk about bendable iPhones is simply a distraction. The real story hear is that Apple will struggle to gain traction in markets in Asia and the Far East, Europe to for that matter.

But for the U.S. market Apple would be an also ran in mobiles.
 
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