Digital Skunk
macrumors G3
Yes. And while the numbers don't lie they don't show the laymen how it applies to any real world situation other than letting us know what we already knew:
The phone will break if you try to break it.
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Consumer Reports: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus Not as Bendable as Believed
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Yes. And while the numbers don't lie they don't show the laymen how it applies to any real world situation other than letting us know what we already knew:
The phone will break if you try to break it.
AppleScruff1
macrumors G4
Tomorrow, in lack of anything better to do, I'll go to the local Apple store (UTC mall in San Diego) and perform some covert bend testing myself... LOL LOL wink wink 😀
Hopefully, the "geniuses" won't give me any trouble. 😛
Hopefully, the "geniuses" won't give me any trouble. 😛
rish
macrumors 6502
You're an alarmist, and again with no history of posting I would also question as a forum member why you're bothering.
Here it is. If you can manage to exert 90lbs of pressure on your device everyday whether seated or standing while doing some other activity then you're the problem. The phone is durable enough for every day use and therefore forcing up to that amount of pressure does not count as such.
I'm unsure why you continue to persist? I suspect that on a mac forum it would give you great satisfaction to state that it is inferior. That is what you wish to achieve isn't it.
Exactly but don't go saying that out loud. "They" might call you an apologist or fanboy...
CB1234
macrumors 6502a
The only way some of these bozos will understand how strong '90lbs' is, is if it smacks them in the face, literally.....
AppleScruff1
macrumors G4
Any phone will bend or break if you go about it with that purpose in mind. But what will it do in my pocket as I go about my daily life? What will happen to it over weeks and months? That is all that matters in the end. Testing it with machines gives some idea of durability, but not necessarily in a a real life way.
I sincerely hope it really is isolated, if so it's an easy fix for me - get a new phone and no recurrence.
Well said in any case - watch and see what happens is the right approach here.
I think the 6 may be in the clear - looking at my wife's phone there looks to be much less opportunity for leverage at either end to promote a bend. Just not as long.
Same old delusional fanboy garbage.
1. I develop software for iOS and OS X.
2. All my computer devices are Apple.
3. I think Android is a piece of crap.
4. I'm objective and don't care about Apple because Apple doesn't care about me. I don't give a shxt about Apple. I care about my job and family and using the best devices. If that's not Apple, I could careless.
Digital Skunk
macrumors G3
You're an alarmist, and again with no history of posting I would also question as a forum member why you're bothering.
Here it is. If you can manage to exert 90lbs of pressure on your device everyday whether seated or standing while doing some other activity then you're the problem. The phone is durable enough for every day use and therefore forcing up to that amount of pressure does not count as such.
I'm unsure why you continue to persist? I suspect that on a mac forum it would give you great satisfaction to state that it is inferior. That is what you wish to achieve isn't it.
No history of posting card, blah blah. Cut the crap. I do have a history of posting, but nevermind.
I'm bothering here because I spent $1200 (CAD with tax) on an unlocked iPhone 6 Plus 128 GB and I have 8 days to take it back. If this phone isn't durable I don't want to keep it. I believe more time is needed to see how these phones fair in the wild, but the idea that they may bend easy is getting supported by more and more evidence.
And here it is: you can't look at these tests as real world results. They're highly controlled. What they do show is that other phones take way more force UNDER THE TESTING CONDITIONS to deform. That is inescapable and not good.
With the iPhone 6/Plus, it may be the case that there is a very weak area under the bottom volume button. In the REAL WORLD, these phones may be prone to bending much easier than anyone would have imagined. That is the isolated variable not covered in the CR testing. Another real world issue that the CR testing didn't cover: twisting the phone. I torque/twist my phone off of its suction mount on the car mount. I just got this car mount. It's slight and I don't apply much force that I can perceive.
Anyway, there are many situations that people put their consumer electronics through (e.g., very humid weather, high altitude, freezing cold then warming, pressure on the top and bottom at the same time, etc. etc.) that these tests do not cover. They are highly controlled and not conclusive but somewhat indicative. The wild is the where design flaws can rear their ugly heads.
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sanke1
macrumors 65816
No no no. You dared to challenge the wisdom of the mighty Apple Fanboys with rational explanations. So by default, you are a Fandroid.
/s
CB1234
macrumors 6502a
But you do care.....to come and rant about it on the forum... If you didn't care, you would be out and about with your devices and with your family.. Just saying......
grahamperrin
macrumors 601
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Digital Skunk
macrumors G3
I can understand that, but I've been down that road with other hardware and I returned it and got the alternative. I didn't bother raising hell on some Internet forum.
Ain't nobody got time for that.
grahamperrin
macrumors 601
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MH01
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I am typing this from an iPhone 6+. While holding this phone, it doesn't feel flimsy or bendy or anything like that, if that is what people are worried about.
It feels like I would have to put a LOT of pressure on this thing to try to break it or bend or whatever. I put some pressure on both ends with my hands, just to see if it felt pliable, and it didn't move.
Now all that being said, just me, I wouldn't wear it constantly in a back pocket and sit on it, I just don't subject my phones to that. But feeling this phone right now, I think it would take more than just sitting on it a couple of times or having it in a front pocket for a while to bend this thing.
It feels like I would have to put a LOT of pressure on this thing to try to break it or bend or whatever. I put some pressure on both ends with my hands, just to see if it felt pliable, and it didn't move.
Now all that being said, just me, I wouldn't wear it constantly in a back pocket and sit on it, I just don't subject my phones to that. But feeling this phone right now, I think it would take more than just sitting on it a couple of times or having it in a front pocket for a while to bend this thing.
doelcm82
macrumors 68040
I'm not attacking anyone. I'm saying why new poster's comments don't get the respect that more seasoned posters do.
I'm focusing on the problem. The problem is that the amount of force on my iPhone 6+ when it's in my pocket is not enough to bend it (If it were, mine would be bent, and it isn't). You can't bend my phone in my pocket no matter what you post.
My iPhone is strong enough to resist bending in normal use. I don't need it to be stronger. You may, but that means nothing to me.
Why is it so important to you that the iPhone be the unbendiest phone in history? It only need to be unbendy enough to be a phone. And mine is. I can't join your crusade, because I'm not a believer in your cause, which appears to be evaporating before your eyes.
Well, real science in a wrong direction. Notice that they are putting the pressure directly in the middle. The bending point is on the volume down button. They need to have a more scientific test. One with severely obese men and women in skinny jeans attempting yoga with the 6 plus in their pockets. Now that is science
And sadly it seems to be "poor design" the after all, if you look at this. http://imgur.com/a/FBegH
It seems there is a "weak spot" behind the volume buttons. The metal reinforcement behind the volume buttons is too short, that's why it always bends there and it explains why the lab tests of Apple and consumer reports (evenly distributed force) and the "hand beding tests" (force concentrated at one point/side) are so different.
If the reinforcement would be longer, it would also be harder to deform it as shown.
You're not reading: I care because I spent $1200 on the device! Otherwise, I could give a crap, notwithstanding my business.
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This. yansun: this reference has already been discussed here and what I've been saying all along: there appears to be a weak point by the bottom volume button. The CR test DID NOT apply the primary pressure to that area. I am willing to wager a guess that it would take roughly 40% less pounds of force to deform the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus if the primary force was applied to that area. ~42 and ~54 pounds respectively. And don't kid yourselves, CR could have been paid by Apple. Any idiot would be way more critical of Apple's devices on those tests, they were giddy and overly positive about Apple's devices. Anyway, I really want this to be a nonissue and to keep the iPhone 6 Plus because I like it, notwithstanding the crap blown up Apps.
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