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Seriously? Really?



I am watching the AFL Grand Final at the moment. Does that prove my existence as a discrete entity?



I believe you exist, but for all I know you're the same guy that posted on here before with the bent phone...

You're just recycling it....capice?
 
The weak spot on the iPhone 6+ is obviously the area where the down volume button cutout is. A force directly at that point will highlight the true strength of the phone.Therefore if someone was to sit on their phone and stress it at this location it won't need a lot of force to bend.

I still reckon this is a design compromise they could have avoided but instead chose to maintain its thinness of the phone against a potential backlash over the rigidity. Jony Ive got his way it seems.

Exactly , look don't get me wrong I love my new Apple iPhone 6 ( not the plus ) but the weak spot is not in the middle of the phone and perhaps that's why it was not detected by apples testing either !

I would love to see a repeat test but this time applying force to the area near the volume controls !

HackDaBox !
 
Not Alluminium Alloy

Apple tell us the cases are tempered alluminium with titanium and steel reinforcement. Pure alluminium has a very low elastic limit, I'm guessing it is higher if tempered, so have they compromised on cost by not using an alloy which will have a high elastic limit and is unlikely to suffer plastic bending. What material was used in the 5S and earlier iPhones as they seem very very sturdy.:confused:

I cancelled my 6+ order to see how this pans and to handle it an Apple Store which I can't do until next week as I live 100 miles from the nearest store in Glasgow. Apple are known to obfuscate and delay until there is a real problem or it goes away. Response this time has been faster than normal which is more Cook than Jobs style/denial.
 
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How do we know you're not the same user that posted the original bent phone post a few days ago and you're just recycling it?

Phone and bend look identical to me....

Just cut it out already. fmcarv: you're supporting with your comments and observations bendgate... that there is a weaker spot on the new iPhones by the bottom volume button and these bends may follow a pattern. Regardless, they take WAY LESS force to bend and not even when bending them at their weakest point compared to an iPhone 5 and Note 3.
 
Again, I'll take you at your word that your phone bent. Surely you understand how many of us remain skeptical - especially in light of all the FUD that has gone on in the past.

Totally get the prove credibility to the masses thing. At the end of the day take my bent phone as an isolated incident - was just blown away last night when I found it was bent as I am a massive fan of the big A. Even got referred to in a speech at my wedding about being an Apple help desk!

We'll see how it evolves, for the moment I'll be getting a new phone on Monday hopefully!
 
You exert 70 lbs of force when you sit down????

Holy crap, lay off on the Big Macs, bro!

So, truth hurts? C'mon don't be so butt hurt. The fact is there...it only took 70-90 pound to bend iPhone 6, whereas iPhone 5 required 130 pound. That should give you enough cue. These phone do bend easily compared to the previous generation ones (hence quality drop). I've been waiting for iPhone 6 Plus for ages and happy that it is finally here and love Apple for making it happen but fact is fact...they are more fragile and higher chance of getting bent than other phones as well..now get over yourself.
 
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Thanking you for calling out Consumer Report's FUD.

The plus bends with 40 lbs of less force compared to 5S proves that the bendgate problem is very much alive and kicking.

People need to use their own heads to interpret results correctly and not blindly accept conclusion of certain websites.

To me that CR video is alarming. I mean, the iPhone 5 doesn't deform until 130, and the 6 Plus at just 90, with the regular 6 at a paltry 70 pounds! That's just shy of half the force of an iPhone 5 to bend it.
 
Exactly , look don't get me wrong I love my new Apple iPhone 6 ( not the plus ) but the weak spot is not in the middle of the phone and perhaps that's why it was not detected by apples testing either !

I would love to see a repeat test but this time applying force to the area near the volume controls !

HackDaBox !

Unless you plan on running your leg into the side of a steel columns sharp edge you'll have nothing to worry about.

If you do in fact ram your leg into that column with a force greater than 40lbs then your phone and leg will be seriously damaged.
 
Apple tell us the cases are tempered alluminium with titanium and steel reinforcement. Pure alluminium has a very low elastic limit, I'm guessing it is higher if tempered, so have they compromised on cost by not using an alloy which will have a high elastic limit and is unlikely to suffer plastic bending. What material was used in the 5S and earlier iPhones as they seem very very sturdy.:confused:

I think the 4, 4S, 5 and 5S all feel sturdier than the 6. I don't say this as a bash, just a personal observation, it is obvious that the 4's and 5's were made of metal. To me, the 6 doesn't seem to be as obvious that it is metal, it looks or feels like it could be plastic of some sort, if that makes any sense.
 
Sample set of 12; 0 issues after one week. Hardly the kind of time you need to confirm conclusively that the "iPhone 6 will prove to be every bit as durable as any other device in real world use."



My sample set is much, much less convincing: two. My wife's phone and mine - a 6 and 6+. My 6+ bent in normal use in 4 days. I have owned iPhones since the 3G religiously. I would post a photo of the problem but got accused earlier by the conspiracists of being a Samsung rep (which was offensive ha - I have queued for every phone since 3G). Check my prior posts for descriptions of usage and photos of the damage.



IMHO this is going to turn in to a problem for Apple - I have never had a launch unit product from Apple that has had such a significant issue yet.



I don't understand why there is such blind need to defend Apple in this thread. The upside is that because it is Apple you get to go get a new phone if it happens to you. Easy. Their customer service is second to none.



However I predict that I will get a new phone, then get another one, and possibly one more before there is a quiet engineering fix applied to new units that fix the real issue.







I have. Genius appointment first thing Monday to request a replacement.



So.... care to explain how you damaged your phone...
 
I'm not blindly defending Apple. I HAVE the device in question and it's not bending. That is hardly blind. If you want to talk about blind, look at all of the bashers here that do not own the device but feel qualified to trash it. THAT is blind!

Again, I'll take you at your word that your phone bent. Surely you understand how many of us remain skeptical - especially in light of all the FUD that has gone on in the past.

Many of us have these iPhones and ours are NOT bending and that's why we feel the way we do – you probably would too if you were in our shoes. I'll be on your side in a heartbeat if my phone bends because I take very good care of my stuff – especially expensive stuff.

Ya, the phones are not bending because you're all over this site and know everything there is to know about the iPhone bending? So you're taking extra special care not to bend it and are treating it beyond good...

Look, let's get into science. There's something called variables in research. And one variable here is delusional fanboys. Another variable is people who know all about the bending iPhones, weak point of the phone and all, and are consciously/subconsciously treating it with extra special care.
 
Totally get the prove credibility to the masses thing. At the end of the day take my bent phone as an isolated incident - was just blown away last night when I found it was bent as I am a massive fan of the big A. Even got referred to in a speech at my wedding about being an Apple help desk!

We'll see how it evolves, for the moment I'll be getting a new phone on Monday hopefully!

Well, for what it's worth, I hope you get a new one too. If it bends under normal use you absolutely should.

I'll be curious if I or any of the people I know with iPhone 6's will have any issues. Believe me, we are looking. Nothing yet. My nephew is usually pretty rough on his phone, that one I'll watch for sure.
 
To me that CR video is alarming. I mean, the iPhone 5 doesn't deform until 130, and the 6 Plus at just 90, with the regular 6 at a paltry 70 pounds! That's just shy of half the force of an iPhone 5 to bend it.


Not alarming at all.

We all know the iPhone 6 is much thinner than the 5.

What's alarming is the HTC M8 performed even worse than the 6

And we had the Unboxing Therapy guy telling us it didn't bend in his video...
 
You're entitled to post your opinion. But this is the internet, and for all we know, you're a dog. With no posting history, you have no credibility.

If you're for real, keep posting, on various topics, and about the things you love about Apple, not just the things you don't love. After a few months, people may begin to trust you. Right now we see you as an Android operative, whether you are one or not. It's not personal. It's just that you sound like an Android operative, and we don't have a way to verify that you aren't.

Drop it doelcm82 and everyone grow up and stop attacking people. This is getting stupid fast. Focus on the problem: the iPhone 6 Plus deforms at just 90 pounds of force, 40 pounds less than the iPhone 5 and 60 pounds less than the Note 3. That's what you should be focusing on: the shxt sandwich all of us are eating right now regarding its durability.

And the kicker is this: the pattern of the bends in the wild seems to follow somewhat along the lines that the bend is happening at a weak point: under the bottom volume button. The CR video did not put the pressure primarily there. So, if they did, the pounds of pressure may have been substantially less to deform it, which is even more alarming to think about.

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Please be joking. The video was legit.

No these people are not joking xmichaelp. That's what this place has degraded into. It's insane.

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Exactly , look don't get me wrong I love my new Apple iPhone 6 ( not the plus ) but the weak spot is not in the middle of the phone and perhaps that's why it was not detected by apples testing either !

I would love to see a repeat test but this time applying force to the area near the volume controls !

HackDaBox !

Exactly, which is what I've been saying. But even still, the amount of force to deform an iPhone 6 is almost just half of what it takes to deform an iPhone 5! This is alarming.
 
Ya, the phones are not bending because you're all over this site and know everything there is to know about the iPhone bending? So you're taking extra special care not to bend it and are treating it beyond good...

Look, let's get into science. There's something called variables in research. And one variable here is delusional fanboys. Another variable is people who know all about the bending iPhones, weak point of the phone and all, and are consciously/subconsciously treating it with extra special care.

Dude, I'm not blind. I have the opinion that I have because I actually own the device and I have nothing to gain. Nor have the others that I know.

That means more to me than random people who haven't even touched an iPhone 6, but just live to Bash Apple. It means more to me than some random joker looking for YouTube hits, he absolutely has something to gain.

IF this is a legitimate problem as 77CAR suggests (and it could very well be), then we are going to know without a doubt very, very soon. I'm watching, so we'll see what happens. IF this proves to be a problem and iPhones cannot withstand normal wear and tear, then I'll be all over Apple too. Right now, I'm not convinced.
 
Again. 90lbs of force is NEVER going to come near you and is a lot of force. It's not "just 90lbs" that's a lot of force.

It is "just" 90 lbs. That's because it's in the context of being compared to other phones that take much more force to deform.

Why would those manufacturers like Samsung not just make a phone that would deform at 90 lbs.? Because they know things we don't: how to produce consumer electronics including testing the strength of smartphones.

Why did Apple make a phone that needs 130 pounds of force to bend and not 70 like the iPhone 6?

There's no easy answers here but reality is reality. And we cannot and will not discount this problem because people like you just want it to go away.
 
Not alarming at all.

We all know the iPhone 6 is much thinner than the 5.

What's alarming is the HTC M8 performed even worse than the 6

And we had the Unboxing Therapy guy telling us it didn't bend in his video...
Ya, been thinking about this as the M8 is (like the M7) quite bombproof.

They used a point load which because of the curved back placed a massive load on the shell hence the case Deformed. In real life, that just doesn't happen. It's interesting to see that at the end, despite the pinch load, the case deformed evenly and it still worked. The M8 (bizarrely) would look to me to be quite good in real life. The rest should have had a better load applicator.

Generally, the results are a bit unscientific. I keep saying that its not the point that the iPhone breaks when pushed because that's to be expected. The point I'd that under certain conditions it deforms relatively easily.

The test should have been a stepped load/ response test, measuring the response at load intervals giving a stress-strain graph for it to be of proper use. As it is, its no better than hat boy and his thumbs.
 
Dude, I'm not blind. I have the opinion that I have because I actually own the device and I have nothing to gain. Nor have the others that I know.

That means more to me than random people who haven't even touched an iPhone 6, but just live to Bash Apple. It means more to me than some random joker looking for YouTube hits, he absolutely has something to gain.

IF this is a legitimate problem as 77CAR suggests (and it could very well be), then we are going to know without a doubt very, very soon. I'm watching, so we'll see what happens. IF this proves to be a problem and iPhones cannot withstand normal wear and tear, then I'll be all over Apple too. Right now, I'm not convinced.

You don't have to be convinced of anything, and I'm pretty sure nobody cares what you're convinced of. We get it.
 
You don't have to be convinced of anything, and I'm pretty sure nobody cares what you're convinced of. We get it.


I think we all get you're a fandroid or being paid to be challenging everything positive people say of apple
 
It is "just" 90 lbs. That's because it's in the context of being compared to other phones that take much more force to deform.

Why would those manufacturers like Samsung not just make a phone that would deform at 90 lbs.? Because they know things we don't: how to produce consumer electronics including testing the strength of smartphones.

Why did Apple make a phone that needs 130 pounds of force to bend and not 70 like the iPhone 6?

There's no easy answers here but reality is reality. And we cannot and will not discount this problem because people like you just want it to go away.

So when did you know what kind of person I was?

What has that to do with this conversation?

And when does a normal person expect to be hit with 100lbs of force or more on their leg or butt?
 
Not alarming at all.

We all know the iPhone 6 is much thinner than the 5.

What's alarming is the HTC M8 performed even worse than the 6

And we had the Unboxing Therapy guy telling us it didn't bend in his video...

I'd say that if you took an M8 in hand and tried to bend it, you'd have a tough time.
 
Ya, been thinking about this as the M8 is (like the M7) quite bombproof.

They used a point load which because of the curved back placed a massive load on the shell hence the case Deformed. In real life, that just doesn't happen. It's interesting to see that at the end, despite the pinch load, the case deformed evenly and it still worked. The M8 (bizarrely) would look to me to be quite good in real life. The rest should have had a better load applicator.

Generally, the results are a bit unscientific. I keep saying that its not the point that the iPhone breaks when pushed because that's to be expected. The point I'd that under certain conditions it deforms relatively easily.

The test should have been a stepped load/ response test, measuring the response at load intervals giving a stress-strain graph for it to be of proper use. As it is, its no better than hat boy and his thumbs.

Key words, and something that none of these tests duplicate accurately.
 
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