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Consumer Reports: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus Not as Bendable as Believed

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JDookie said:
How would you like me to take a picture of my phone with my phone?? LOL



Besides, my phone isn't bad at all. The one you all want to see is my mother's phone. The next time I will have all three phones in front of me will be Monday.

Now, keep in mind, I'm not talking bent in half or something stupid, and it's nowhere near as bad as the videos and other pictures floating around, but it definitely has one corner (the corner with the volume buttons) that's now bent and you can also see where the screen has pulled away ever so slightly.



As far as the industrial press comment, you do realize that these phones flex with ease by hand right? I pretty much took the bend out of mine by bending it the opposite direction. My mother's, on the other hand, is too far gone. If I bend it enough to straighten it something's going to crack and if it shows any sign of abuse my chances of getting the Apple Store to swap it out will be out the window.
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They're extremely flexible indeed in fact these guys bending these phones are hardly putting any muscle into it...

so you telling us you don't own a webcam, a laptop with built in camera or a point and shoot??
 
H2SO4 said:
No. A well established poster could easily be a devout Fanboy and hence refuse to prove a point by photographing it. That works too see……...

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Nail
Head.
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There are plenty of established users who are critical of Apple. A brand new anonymous account should always be viewed critically...why do you think ere are rules to be established in order to be able to post to specific forums, etc?
 
H2SO4 said:
A lot of people don’t have direct experience of death or a broken bone but they’d probably like to avoid both. It’s nice to have experience but it isn’t always essential. In addition my/your experience will be different from those of others.

Personally I’ve done enough physics and electronics without being an engineer to know that most things we do are approximations that point toward a probable outcome.
What someone should do, and consumer reports are one of the only nationwide independent, (though not necessarily unbiased), organisations with the resource to do so, is put pressure guages on the phone to measure what forces act where as I’m pretty sure that the phone in this guys pocket wasn’t subjected to pressure in the middle like they showed.
Lictor I think, correctly pointed out that the leg area will exert significantly more pressure than the arm/hand. It is also significantly less sensitive to the amount of pressure exerted than an arm so it’d be much easier to bend an item with your lower body strength whilst not thinking that much force has been applied.

So. A definitive.
Was the phone in a front or rear pocket?
Was the glass facing in or out?
Was the whole phone in the pocket or did some of it protrude like that bloody camera?

Only once we understand and agree on the above can we make a fair test whether you are a Fanbois or Fandroid.

Since the story first broke I’ve learned that a lot more people carry phones in their back pockets than I thought, (the vast majority are women), and they seem to not care whether the front or the back faces out. Also a lot of people apparently never sit down with their phone in pocket, (that, I don’t believe though).
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I think the story that broke was that an IP6+ was in the front pocket.

I agree with you entirely that when it comes to applying force that it would be less noticeable with the leg/lower limb area. After all these are the bodies largest muscle groups.

What needs to be added to the definitive you put together Is the following. The available material space in the garment. Fitted clothes will have considerably less space particularly for an IP6+. You've already mentioned that the pocket will be another consideration.

So overall I agree with your view.
 
McCool71 said:
And still people do it all the time. A cell phone that can not withstand what has been considered normal daily use by a huge number of people since the beginning of pocketable cell phones has a serious flaw.
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And people drop them on the floor, and in the toilet etc etc
 
AppleScruff1 said:
I'm not complaining about the findings. That is what their test results showed for the test they performed. The guy bending it with his hands did the same thing, with opposite results. Both tests are accurate. What does this prove?
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So you are saying some dude on youtube bending with his hands is the same as a controlled test with machinery by a well known non biased site? Also SquareTrade Warranty did controlled durability tests with similar results as CR. BTW, Watch the youtube again and pay attention to the time on the phone. He starts the test at 2:26 then it ends at 1:58-1:59. Hmmm interesting how the test took -28 min to complete.
 
fmcarv said:
Can prove the Unbox Therapy guy wasn't putting as much force to bending the Moto than the 6Plus...

he does keep referring to the Moto X

Even in his latest video.

Why?

Why not other phones?

Bending paid by Motorola?

God knows...

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You mean the supply chain that live off Apple would bugger Apple...

What's the business sense in that??
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Not the supply chain meaning Foxcon or those who assemble (and live off Apple as you say), but where the material comes from. Material comes with certification of it's composition meeting the specs it is ordered to. Called a "Cert" for short. If you don't do your own testing, it simply takes a piece of paper with a lie on it to make you believe you are getting something that you aren't. Now any important part would have test coupons made along side the real part for load testing, but if schedules are tight and there is a TREMENDOUS volume of material being dealt with, like in Apple's case....it could be quite easy for some incorrectly certified material to slip through the cracks. Tracing it back to the exact supply source in the case of Aluminum can be nearly impossible because so much aluminum is supplied all over the world.
 
AppleScruff1 said:
Go to a store and try to bend an M8 and a Moto X with your hands. You won't be able to. Does that mean CR is wrong? Absolutely not. In the CR test, it took less force to break the M8. Neither test represents real world use.
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According to CNN and Consumer Reports, I can't bend an iPhone 6+ with my hand either...
 
MyopicPaideia said:
A brand new anonymous account should always be viewed critically...why do you think ere are rules to be established in order to be able to post to specific forums, etc?
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I totally agree - just look at fmcarv who has made it his life mission to protect the iPhone 6 in bendgate, no matter what. He joined this month and should be viewed very critically - and probably not given much weight at all.
 
JDookie said:
How would you like me to take a picture of my phone with my phone?? LOL

Besides, my phone isn't bad at all. The one you all want to see is my mother's phone. The next time I will have all three phones in front of me will be Monday.
Now, keep in mind, I'm not talking bent in half or something stupid, and it's nowhere near as bad as the videos and other pictures floating around, but it definitely has one corner (the corner with the volume buttons) that's now bent and you can also see where the screen has pulled away ever so slightly.

As far as the industrial press comment, you do realize that these phones flex with ease by hand right? I pretty much took the bend out of mine by bending it the opposite direction. My mother's, on the other hand, is too far gone. If I bend it enough to straighten it something's going to crack and if it shows any sign of abuse my chances of getting the Apple Store to swap it out will be out the window.
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You own no other camera? No old phone sitting around? This is your first device with a camera?

And I want to see your phone. Don't need to see your mother's. And now I really do doubt you - I have a 6+ in my hand right now. It does not "flex with ease by hand." And now you are saying you took the bend out of yours.

You have to realize that even if you are telling the truth, the more you post the more it appears you are lying.
 
fmcarv said:
They're extremely flexible indeed in fact these guys bending these phones are hardly putting any muscle into it...

so you telling us you don't own a webcam, a laptop with built in camera or a point and shoot??
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Actually, I dont. I use my iPhone for everything. I have a desktop computer for everything the phone can't do, and I haven't owned a point and shoot camera since I bought my iPhone 5 two years ago. Regardless, the phone I need to take pictures of isn't here so it really doesn't matter.
 
Max(IT) said:
Did you hear report of HTC users complaining for bent phones? And it's been on the market for months.
This entire issue is just a well plotted pile of bs....
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I was referring to a sixty pound loss in rigidity between iPhones.

The report points this out clearly. This issue needs to be reported. People need to know that their device is almost 50% more fragile than before.

Apple always gets a lot of press. So people will pay attention when stuff like this is exposed.

There is no conspiracy here. The device is softer. By a lot. And people need to know so they don't band it around like they did their previous iPhone (should that be the case).
 
With all the renewed activity in this topic, it appears reinforcments have arrived from Korea!
 
GuitarDTO said:
Not the supply chain meaning Foxcon or those who assemble (and live off Apple as you say), but where the material comes from. Material comes with certification of it's composition meeting the specs it is ordered to. Called a "Cert" for short. If you don't do your own testing, it simply takes a piece of paper with a lie on it to make you believe you are getting something that you aren't. Now any important part would have test coupons made along side the real part for load testing, but if schedules are tight and there is a TREMENDOUS volume of material being dealt with, like in Apple's case....it could be quite easy for some incorrectly certified material to slip through the cracks. Tracing it back to the exact supply source in the case of Aluminum can be nearly impossible because so much aluminum is supplied all over the world.
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I understood initially and didn't mean Foxconn

Still say the same

So suppliers would con their biggest client.

That would be business suicide!

Unless there sabotage involved
 
sbailey4 said:
So you are saying some dude on youtube bending with his hands is the same as a controlled test with machinery by a well known non biased site? Also SquareTrade Warranty did controlled durability tests with similar results as CR. BTW, Watch the youtube again and pay attention to the time on the phone. He starts the test at 2:26 then it ends at 1:58-1:59. Hmmm interesting how the test took -28 min to complete.
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I have no doubt that the 6+ can be bent by hand. I think it would be nearly impossible to bend the 6 by hand. Consumer Reports test shows that the 6+ is stronger than the 6, in the type of test they conducted. Two different tests, opposite results. One test is precise and scientific, the other one not at all. Both true, both accurate. Does either one give real world results?
 
fmcarv said:
Oops...

This guy would get caught immediately if he commuted a crime.
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He called samsung and they said they will get him a bent phone on Monday, is my guess. First there are three, two of which are bent. Then he has access to two, only one is bent. Then that one isn't really bent anymore. But he can't show us because now he has only one.
 
JDookie said:
Actually, I dont. I use my iPhone for everything. I have a desktop computer for everything the phone can't do, and I haven't owned a point and shoot camera since I bought my iPhone 5 two years ago. Regardless, the phone I need to take pictures of isn't here so it really doesn't matter.
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Use your wife's iPhone 6

Oh ok I know you're not gonna see her thill Monday.

She's away on duty..

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JDookie said:
She's at that thing called work, maybe you've heard of it.
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All weekend??

Non-stop

Doesn't come home?
 
fmcarv said:
They're extremely flexible indeed in fact these guys bending these phones are hardly putting any muscle into it...

so you telling us you don't own a webcam, a laptop with built in camera or a point and shoot??
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I would question the hardly putting any muscle into part. I've been to the Apple Store. You have to apply a good bit of force to bend it and I'm not weak. Judt hope no one saw me.
 
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