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Doesn't matter. A mobile phone should withstand normal human body movements. If it can't be stowed in a pocket then Apple should include a disclaimer.

Wats considered normal? For example, could an almost hippopotamus sized human sitting on the phone be considered as a normal human body movement?
 
There's something that I cannot get my head around.

If you wear those pants and your phone is deep in that pocket in plain mechanics and physics that bend would be impossible.

You have the back of your phone continuously supported on your leg the whole length of the phone and then your pants applying pressure on the whole screen of the phone.

There's no leverage.

Impossible actually to bend on that spot

The force provoqued by your pants on the screen would be canceled by the force on the back of the phone form your leg.

all other cases have been form tight jeans and bit of the phone protruding of the pocket

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I have the phone so has my sister.

The phone doesn't bend that easily..

Trust me!

My phone stays in my pocket screen in. Did you even watch the video? You can see how when I kneel down it doesn't shift with me. It gets stopped at an angle. That is what did it. I have adjusted my ways already and just pull my pants leg up and adjust the phone as I am kneeling now. Simple and done. But I still have a compromised phone and it will be replaced.
 
Haha, pretty funny. But a good link for those who are ignorant enough to think the CS would put out this video because Apple paid them off or whatever other ridiculous claim they could come up.

That would be funny ... let's see ... Apple pays CR to put out a bad video LOL. Conspiracy is everywhere.
 
There's no point load and the phone is not simply supported

There will be no bending of you have pressure continuously from both sides (back and front!

Put your phone between two books and put pressure on the top book

What happens?

So you can't explain the "plain mechanics and physics". Ok. Thought so.
 
Bending a phone by hand cannot be done in a reputable way because it's a non scientific test. If the phone passed the machine test is fine, there's no way it can make a difference doing it by hand. And it doesn't make any difference either to apply the force where the volume buttons are: to apply the force in the middle is the worst situation for the phone, every other position will give less stress to the material.

thanks for the lesson...

I am an engineer myself, appreciate every bit of science we can get on this.
However, as good as those machines are at modeling a real life scenario, they are still NOT a real life scenario.
Furthermore, the 'scientific' test tells you it can sustain up to 70-90 pounds in that specific test; but if nobody gives us the typical force a phone that size is subject to when in a front pocket while seating, a back pocket, a bump against this or that; then those numbers mean absolutely nothing.
Without those comparisons, this test only value is the relative strength against competitors and previous versions of the phone, and indeed it is weaker than all of those.
That is, at this stage, the ONLY SCIENTIFIC conclusion we get with the data they give us. So since you embrace science that much, you should be worried, and not the opposite.

Unfortunately, Apple is known to have very little free play QA time with their devices, as very very few employees get access to them before release; and when they do, they're often wrap in some bulky disguising case.

And btw, please try to read other people's comments accurately; I have never talked about having such test made in a 'reputable way' (which probably doesn't mean anything anyway), but by a reputable source (engadget, ...).
At this point, we know that the device passes the stress tests inflicted by those

Not sure why Apple fanboys would disagree with this. If you really trust that this device is strong enough to survive this kind of experiment, you should be pushing for this so we definitely close this topic.
 
Looks like the apple store in London has bendy phone number 10 and its the smaller 6

https://plus.google.com/102834578939326629866/posts/5QKAMn6Pjer
 

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Exactly what "plain mechanics and physics" are you applying to this test that would make it impossible? Please provide the proper equations.

I'm going to hang out here till we get a proper response. Wondering if I should camp out.
 
There's something that I cannot get my head around.

If you wear those pants and your phone is deep in that pocket in plain mechanics and physics that bend would be impossible.

You have the back of your phone continuously supported on your leg the whole length of the phone and then your pants applying pressure on the whole screen of the phone.

There's no leverage.

Impossible actually to bend on that spot

The force provoqued by your pants on the screen would be canceled by the force on the back of the phone form your leg.

all other cases have been form tight jeans and bit of the phone protruding of the pocket

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I have the phone so has my sister.

The phone doesn't bend that easily..

Trust me!

Jut because you and your sister have the phone and haven't experienced a problem, that doesn't mean others haven't or won't experience problems with the same device under the same or similar conditions.

Using logical fallacies as the foundation of one's foundation is akin to building the foundation of a house on slow moving sand.
 
Oh my God the iPhone 6 bends!!!????

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1604941/

Every year there's mass hysteria over some kind of foolishness. If you're that concerned about it bending don't buy it.
 
there point is that a high end phone should not bend like that especially after a billion dollar of research of engineers.

Just devil's advocate, but I bet a Ferrari suffers more damage in a 5 MPH wreck than a Nissan. Does that mean Ferrari engineers failed their task?
 
There's something that I cannot get my head around.

If you wear those pants and your phone is deep in that pocket in plain mechanics and physics that bend would be impossible.

You have the back of your phone continuously supported on your leg the whole length of the phone and then your pants applying pressure on the whole screen of the phone.

There's no leverage.

Impossible actually to bend on that spot

The force provoqued by your pants on the screen would be canceled by the force on the back of the phone form your leg.

all other cases have been form tight jeans and bit of the phone protruding of the pocket

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I have the phone so has my sister.

The phone doesn't bend that easily..

Trust me!

Ok so, just to clarify, are people putting their phone in ther backpocket or is the phone actually bending in the front pocket? This just doesnt seems like a conspiracy to me, and the consumer report doesnt deny any of it, in fact they confirm it. You just need 60 pounds 'of pressure to bend the phone in a really bad way (galaxy note needs 150), so I guess you'd only requiere like 30 pounds or less pressure to bend the phone a little. People are complaining that the phone bends slightly, consumer reports is testing how much pressure you need to completly bend the phone, thats not the same thing. They should test how much pressure do you need to just bend the phone a little. I´m a big apple fan but it looks like they blow it.
 
There's no point load and the phone is not simply supported

There will be no bending of you have pressure continuously from both sides (back and front!

Put your phone between two books and put pressure on the top book

What happens?


What if one of those books had even a slight curve?
 
It refers directly to the YouTube guy, and is an analysis based on what happened. It's done by someone that abbreviates because with bc, but the more serious issue is, there is no testing going on but a theory of what may have happened. A few diagrams are thrown in with some vectors (for that "legit" look).
Aha, and because It is directed "directly to the YouTube guy" and because the YouTube guy is a liar(?), in reality the phone doesn't bend(?) the article pointing to a possible "weak spot" can't be true and so it is just not possible that there is a "weak spot"? How do you know what the article says doesn't point to a real issue?
For me it's a legit theory and pointing to a real concern, which would also explain why the lab tests of Apple and CR (evenly distributed force) and the "hand beding tests" (force concentrated at one point/side) are showing different results and why it seems to be easier to bend the phone near the volume buttons. The metal reinforcement behind the volume buttons is too short, if the reinforcement would be longer, it would also be harder to deform it there. Can you disprove this hypothesis?
 
Here is a simple video I made showing how my iPhone 6+ got bent. Twice now. Now that I know this happens, I simply pull my pants leg up a bit while I am kneeling down and that gives it the needed room. Having never had to do that before with any other phones I have owned I did not know it was necessary. I have never put my phone into my back pocket and sat on it. Please don't come back to me with that.

You guys would really be surprised, as I was, at how little force was required for the corner to bend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQxX_x3HTXQ

Yup. You all remember the "issue" with burn in and/or "yellow" screen on the rMini's (I think, or was it the regular Air's?), and people were posting about exchanging something like 4 in a row because they went to check that checkerboard website made to "test" for the issue or stared at a white screen for hours side by side with an Air to try to detect a yellowish tinge? I feel as though this whole bending thing is pretty much equivalent to those occurrences.

If you actually go looking for problems, you will almost certainly find them, whilst the millions and millions of people who don't actually scrutinise their devices at OCD levels will enjoy them to the fullest, blissfully unaware that they have these "fatal manufacturing flaws" and mistakenly believe that they are using a high quality premium product that they are fully satisfied with.

I honestly can't see the bend trying to be illustrated in this video, not that I don't believe it is there, just that I feel it is probably so small as to be virtually unnoticeable to the average user, let alone grounds for a replacement. Similarly, I can't see how JDooker's ruler and phone picture, while it does show an extremely marginal warping that allows a single ray of light to pass through the gap, would ever even have been noticed by a regular user. Is his straight edge 100% straight? (not that it even matters at all, that was completely rhetorical)

This being the second phone this poster is claiming to be replacing (post history here is truly questionable again, just throwing that out there, his last major activity was antenna-gate), maybe he should identify the trend and realise that maybe it isn't the product for him. Seems exactly like the guy who replaced the multiple iPad's for the burn in or yellowing "issue" (probably had a burn in issue with his own retinas trying to detect the "defect"). If you'll remember, all the actual reputable technical testing of the screens then showed that while the Air's screen was in fact technically more colour accurate, the rMini's was still better in this regard tha everything else except the Air. A very similar situation that that we have here with the bending.

It is Apple's own fault really. They are a victim of their own brilliant marketing - their products are held up to a standard no other manufacturer's goods are, and probably with good reason. Too successful, popular, and premium for their own good. Everybody likes to see Goliath fall, nobody cares that David's fourth and fifth toes were webbed... ;)

I've got my 6+ on order, but probably won't get it for several weeks as it is part of a larger corporate role out. I have a history and reputation here as being pro Apple, just look at my post history, and with that said, hope to resurect my Vimeo account for the purpose of cataloguing my phone's progress for the first 4 weeks of use. I'll keep it in my front pocket and my left inner suitcoat pocket as I am used to doing with my 5 now. I'll do a short unboxing, lay it on my coffee table, and do the same once a week for 4 weeks and we'll see if there is any warping. One thing I will not be doing it trying to bend my precious phone with my bare hands!

I fully expect there to be some minute changes that would be all but unnoticeable unless I actually went through this exercise. If those minutae are enough for people to condemn the product, so be it, I'll still love every second I have with mine, I'm sure, and not lose a moment of sleep over the inevitable 1 sec deformation (as in degree, min, sec) in the horizontal plane of my phone.

Should be fun.
 
OMG I can see it now, Samsung will dispatch thousands of teenagers to bend iPhones located in Apple stores. That would be absolutely hilarious. Or better yet, I see a new YouTube trend of kids doing this, then making a YouTube video. Bendgate evolves into Apple Store Bendgate.

Time to sell the stock, this is not going away anytime soon. I think is just a matter of time for the recall.
 
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