This will be an interesting story to watch.
It's hard to imagine it continues to grow to the point that Apple has to respond with something as drastic as a recall, but it is certainly possible.
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Consumer Reports: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus Not as Bendable as Believed
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This will be an interesting story to watch.
It's hard to imagine it continues to grow to the point that Apple has to respond with something as drastic as a recall, but it is certainly possible.
Look at the video of the user richardsonrs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQxX_x3HTXQ and the pictures he posted here. https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/19935054/
Seriously... I've said so in several posts already, but the fanboys have gone crazy. The stupidity in first comparing the bendgaters to conspiracy theory people, and then proposing a conspiracy theory of one's own in the next sentence... it's mindblowing.
This thread just doesn't stop giving, lolYup. You all remember the "issue" with burn in and/or "yellow" screen on the rMini's (I think, or was it the regular Air's?), and people were posting about exchanging something like 4 in a row because they went to check that checkerboard website made to "test" for the issue or stared at a white screen for hours side by side with an Air to try to detect a yellowish tinge? I feel as though this whole bending thing is pretty much equivalent to those occurrences.
If you actually go looking for problems, you will almost certainly find them, whilst the millions and millions of people who don't actually scrutinise their devices at OCD levels will enjoy them to the fullest, blissfully unaware that they have these "fatal manufacturing flaws" and mistakenly believe that they are using a high quality premium product that they are fully satisfied with.
I honestly can't see the bend trying to be illustrated in this video, not that I don't believe it is there, just that I feel it is probably so small as to be virtually unnoticeable to the average user, let alone grounds for a replacement. Similarly, I can't see how JDooker's ruler and phone picture, while it does show an extremely marginal warping that allows a single ray of light to pass through the gap, would ever even have been noticed by a regular user. Is his straight edge 100% straight? (not that it even matters at all, that was completely rhetorical)
This being the second phone this poster is claiming to be replacing (post history here is truly questionable again, just throwing that out there, his last major activity was antenna-gate), maybe he should identify the trend and realise that maybe it isn't the product for him. Seems exactly like the guy who replaced the multiple iPad's for the burn in or yellowing "issue" (probably had a burn in issue with his own retinas trying to detect the "defect"). If you'll remember, all the actual reputable technical testing of the screens then showed that while the Air's screen was in fact technically more colour accurate, the rMini's was still better in this regard tha everything else except the Air. A very similar situation that that we have here with the bending.
It is Apple's own fault really. They are a victim of their own brilliant marketing - their products are held up to a standard no other manufacturer's goods are, and probably with good reason. Too successful, popular, and premium for their own good. Everybody likes to see Goliath fall, nobody cares that David's fourth and fifth toes were webbed...
I've got my 6+ on order, but probably won't get it for several weeks as it is part of a larger corporate role out. I have a history and reputation here as being pro Apple, just look at my post history, and with that said, hope to resurect my Vimeo account for the purpose of cataloguing my phone's progress for the first 4 weeks of use. I'll keep it in my front pocket and my left inner suitcoat pocket as I am used to doing with my 5 now. I'll do a short unboxing, lay it on my coffee table, and do the same once a week for 4 weeks and we'll see if there is any warping. One thing I will not be doing it trying to bend my precious phone with my bare hands!
I fully expect there to be some minute changes that would be all but unnoticeable unless I actually went through this exercise. If those minutae are enough for people to condemn the product, so be it, I'll still love every second I have with mine, I'm sure, and not lose a moment of sleep over the inevitable 1 sec deformation (as in degree, min, sec) in the horizontal plane of my phone.
Should be fun.
Yup. You all remember the "issue" with burn in and/or "yellow" screen on the rMini's (I think, or was it the regular Air's?), and people were posting about exchanging something like 4 in a row because they went to check that checkerboard website made to "test" for the issue or stared at a white screen for hours side by side with an Air to try to detect a yellowish tinge? I feel as though this whole bending thing is pretty much equivalent to those occurrences.
If you actually go looking for problems, you will almost certainly find them, whilst the millions and millions of people who don't actually scrutinise their devices at OCD levels will enjoy them to the fullest, blissfully unaware that they have these "fatal manufacturing flaws" and mistakenly believe that they are using a high quality premium product that they are fully satisfied with.
I honestly can't see the bend trying to be illustrated in this video, not that I don't believe it is there, just that I feel it is probably so small as to be virtually unnoticeable to the average user, let alone grounds for a replacement. Similarly, I can't see how JDooker's ruler and phone picture, while it does show an extremely marginal warping that allows a single ray of light to pass through the gap, would ever even have been noticed by a regular user. Is his straight edge 100% straight? (not that it even matters at all, that was completely rhetorical)
This being the second phone this poster is claiming to be replacing (post history here is truly questionable again, just throwing that out there, his last major activity was antenna-gate), maybe he should identify the trend and realise that maybe it isn't the product for him. Seems exactly like the guy who replaced the multiple iPad's for the burn in or yellowing "issue" (probably had a burn in issue with his own retinas trying to detect the "defect"). If you'll remember, all the actual reputable technical testing of the screens then showed that while the Air's screen was in fact technically more colour accurate, the rMini's was still better in this regard tha everything else except the Air. A very similar situation that that we have here with the bending.
It is Apple's own fault really. They are a victim of their own brilliant marketing - their products are held up to a standard no other manufacturer's goods are, and probably with good reason. Too successful, popular, and premium for their own good. Everybody likes to see Goliath fall, nobody cares that David's fourth and fifth toes were webbed...
I've got my 6+ on order, but probably won't get it for several weeks as it is part of a larger corporate role out. I have a history and reputation here as being pro Apple, just look at my post history, and with that said, hope to resurect my Vimeo account for the purpose of cataloguing my phone's progress for the first 4 weeks of use. I'll keep it in my front pocket and my left inner suitcoat pocket as I am used to doing with my 5 now. I'll do a short unboxing, lay it on my coffee table, and do the same once a week for 4 weeks and we'll see if there is any warping. One thing I will not be doing it trying to bend my precious phone with my bare hands!
I fully expect there to be some minute changes that would be all but unnoticeable unless I actually went through this exercise. If those minutae are enough for people to condemn the product, so be it, I'll still love every second I have with mine, I'm sure, and not lose a moment of sleep over the inevitable 1 sec deformation (as in degree, min, sec) in the horizontal plane of my phone.
Should be fun.
I am not replacing a second phone. I am replacing a phone that has been bent twice.. The second time was not as bad as the first, I was at work and didn't have a second phone to take a pic with..
I dint see one either. Lay it down on a flat surface, maybe then the bend could be seen.
This is too easy - - go to Apple Store, bend iPhone, snap pic, post to Internet - - instant paycheque from Samsung!
I should also say that I am by no means claiming there is some giant issue with all iPhone 6 pluses. There was obviously an issue with MINE. It could be isolated. If I had to guess though? This will not go away anytime soon and will only get worse the more people use them. Just my opinion.
I was with you...
... until this bit
Enough with the pointless hate, especially if you want to come across as being a credible sensible human being.
Here is the official Consumer Reports Deformation chart shown at the end of the video. For reference to this issue, Deformation means "the action or process of changing in shape or distorting, especially through the application of pressure".
It has been pointed out by some smart folks in this forum, this is a comparison between a select number of phones, there is no reference/comparison to "real world" use, but the Consumer Reports test and resulting chart do provide some information for discussion.
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It is way easier to see holding it. I honestly don't care if you see it or not at this point. Unless you are the genius I am about to see.. Everyone I have shown it to easily sees it right away, which includes two apple employees when I made the appt. and three AT&T employees today while buying accessories. PLus numerous random people.
Yeah, they need a recall. I cant believe they oversighted this! I guess as part of their secrecy culture, nobody was able to use the phone in a regular way so they didnt notice. You cant test the phone just with some machines, you need real world test. I'm really sorry about Apple but there is no excuse. Just redesign the phone, add 1 or 2 mm I dont care, just make a good phone.
It's bent because idiots everywhere are going to the stores and purposely trying to bend them now.
Those phones don't get out in pockets or subjected to any external forces besides people handling them as demos.
Consumer Reports: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus Not as Bendable as Believed
It shouldn't be sat on.
It shouldn't be sat on.
I suspect Apple will already be trying to repeat the bend videos
Given how the phone are bending, I suspect someone at Apple is not only trying to replicate the bending video's but also setting the machines up to see how much force it needs at various points (rather than just at the centre)
Anyone that has a bent phone needs to return it to their carrier or Apple, and let Apple replace it
Apple can then examine the phone and see if there is a common cause, be it a common point of bend, or even a common assembly line/person/factory
Given the number of people who have the iPhone 6/6+ that have not reported any bending, it could be we have a few phones that are substandard in some way
If there is a design flaw, I assume Apple will fix it (either by extending existing reinforcing or adding extra) and will just replace any 'bent' iPhone without querying it (given all the press detail over the issue)
Either way its a win for Apple as they get to keep people happy by replacing the phone, and also get another bit of data about whats happened
All the hype over bend ability is probably being stoked by those with a vested interest in either making click/add revenue or making their own products look good (when they may not be)
I'll give Apple a few weeks to see what develops.
If my 6+ bends, I'll be in the apple store the same day
For the record, I weigh 200 lbs, and have sat on the phone twice .. no bends (mind you it has a gel case)
Given how the phone are bending, I suspect someone at Apple is not only trying to replicate the bending video's but also setting the machines up to see how much force it needs at various points (rather than just at the centre)
Anyone that has a bent phone needs to return it to their carrier or Apple, and let Apple replace it
Apple can then examine the phone and see if there is a common cause, be it a common point of bend, or even a common assembly line/person/factory
Given the number of people who have the iPhone 6/6+ that have not reported any bending, it could be we have a few phones that are substandard in some way
If there is a design flaw, I assume Apple will fix it (either by extending existing reinforcing or adding extra) and will just replace any 'bent' iPhone without querying it (given all the press detail over the issue)
Either way its a win for Apple as they get to keep people happy by replacing the phone, and also get another bit of data about whats happened
All the hype over bend ability is probably being stoked by those with a vested interest in either making click/add revenue or making their own products look good (when they may not be)
I'll give Apple a few weeks to see what develops.
If my 6+ bends, I'll be in the apple store the same day
For the record, I weigh 200 lbs, and have sat on the phone twice .. no bends (mind you it has a gel case)
Oh my god did you get paid to say that?
Consumer reports said it requires 70 pounds to bend a 6, 100 to destroy it. 6 Plus requires 90 to bend, 100-110 to be destroyed. Nowhere does it say it starts to deform at 30.
It would be a good idea to get something in writing (if possible) from the Genius, as to the outcome of your appointment. This is a new policy for Apple. Should you need to escalate the matter higher up, it will help you having something in writing.
I'm with you man, I'm a huge apple fan but they blew it. My advice to you would be to return the phone and get a 5S or get your money back, or do you think these bending phones were just a bad batch?
I assume you can't see it here too (he posted pictures too)? https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/19935054/Yup. You all remember the "issue" with burn in and/or "yellow" screen on the rMini's (I think, or was it the regular Air's?), and people were posting about exchanging something like 4 in a row because they went to check that checkerboard website made to "test" for the issue or stared at a white screen for hours side by side with an Air to try to detect a yellowish tinge? I feel as though this whole bending thing is pretty much equivalent to those occurrences.
If you actually go looking for problems, you will almost certainly find them, whilst the millions and millions of people who don't actually scrutinise their devices at OCD levels will enjoy them to the fullest, blissfully unaware that they have these "fatal manufacturing flaws" and mistakenly believe that they are using a high quality premium product that they are fully satisfied with.
I honestly can't see the bend trying to be illustrated in this video, not that I don't believe it is there, just that I feel it is probably so small as to be virtually unnoticeable to the average user, let alone grounds for a replacement. Similarly, I can't see how JDooker's ruler and phone picture, while it does show an extremely marginal warping that allows a single ray of light to pass through the gap, would ever even have been noticed by a regular user. Is his straight edge 100% straight? (not that it even matters at all, that was completely rhetorical)
This being the second phone this poster is claiming to be replacing (post history here is truly questionable again, just throwing that out there, his last major activity was antenna-gate), maybe he should identify the trend and realise that maybe it isn't the product for him. Seems exactly like the guy who replaced the multiple iPad's for the burn in or yellowing "issue" (probably had a burn in issue with his own retinas trying to detect the "defect"). If you'll remember, all the actual reputable technical testing of the screens then showed that while the Air's screen was in fact technically more colour accurate, the rMini's was still better in this regard tha everything else except the Air. A very similar situation that that we have here with the bending.
It is Apple's own fault really. They are a victim of their own brilliant marketing - their products are held up to a standard no other manufacturer's goods are, and probably with good reason. Too successful, popular, and premium for their own good. Everybody likes to see Goliath fall, nobody cares that David's fourth and fifth toes were webbed...
I've got my 6+ on order, but probably won't get it for several weeks as it is part of a larger corporate role out. I have a history and reputation here as being pro Apple, just look at my post history, and with that said, hope to resurect my Vimeo account for the purpose of cataloguing my phone's progress for the first 4 weeks of use. I'll keep it in my front pocket and my left inner suitcoat pocket as I am used to doing with my 5 now. I'll do a short unboxing, lay it on my coffee table, and do the same once a week for 4 weeks and we'll see if there is any warping. One thing I will not be doing it trying to bend my precious phone with my bare hands!
I fully expect there to be some minute changes that would be all but unnoticeable unless I actually went through this exercise. If those minutae are enough for people to condemn the product, so be it, I'll still love every second I have with mine, I'm sure, and not lose a moment of sleep over the inevitable 1 sec deformation (as in degree, min, sec) in the horizontal plane of my phone.
Should be fun.
When I keep my phone in my pocket I have the display facing my body.
Do people usually put their phone in their pocket with the screen facing out (away from the person's body) or facing in to protect it from impact?
I ask this because the 'tests' I've watched, both formal and informal, show the force being applied to the back of the phone, which I would think might be less common in ordinary use.
Do people usually put their phone in their pocket with the screen facing out (away from the person's body) or facing in to protect it from impact?
I ask this because the 'tests' I've watched, both formal and informal, show the force being applied to the back of the phone, which I would think might be less common in ordinary use.
Have a look how easy it is to bend if pressure is applied on the side (unlike the consumer reports)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ3Ds6uf0Yg
Well done Apple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ3Ds6uf0Yg
Well done Apple
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