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Consumer Reports: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus Not as Bendable as Believed

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SoGood said:
This is where you are wrong, where so many are narrowly focusing their attention. The big picture is that the CR test applied force on two ends of the phone, which is completely typical of a phone in a pocket. Point force is only there when one puts a coin purse or keys in the pocket at the same time.

Be sensible with a larger device and everything will be fine. Driving a truck like a family sedan will invariably cause foreseeable damages. That's all.
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That's quite a leap to say the simple CR three point test simulates the complex stresses placed on the phone in one's pocket.
 
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rGiskard said:
That's quite a leap to say the simple CR three point test simulates the complex stresses placed on the phone in one's pocket.
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Just following the logic of the earlier quoted poster. At least it's far more scientifically sound than thumb-fingers on a Youtube clip that has been spliced at multiple points. But some seemed to prefer to suck and swallow.

Weight, size, strength - Pick 2.
 
SoGood said:
Just following the logic of the earlier quoted poster. At least it's far more scientifically sound than thumb-fingers on a Youtube clip that has been spliced at multiple points. But some seemed to prefer to suck and swallow.

Weight, size, strength - Pick 2.
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I don't believe either test is a good simulation of pocket stress. The only advantage of the thumb-finger bend is that it targeted the weak point.
 
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Blackberry Passport with steel frame may be your answer if Bendgate is making you throw a fit

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I have bee telling folks that Apple is too obsessed with making their phones taller & thinner like those ridiculous supermodels at Milan catwalk.

iPhone 6 is beautifully made but a little too fragile from what I can gather
 
BJonson said:
You know I have read this whole thread (shoot me) and one thing that keeps recurring is the constant begging of users here for proof then when proof is shown they call the people liers and accuse them of faking the video or photo and if they can't accuse them of lying they say they don't see the evidence that is right in front of them. Its pretty terrible. I am convinced that apple (and I'm sure other companies do it) has a paid team of people sitting in the basement with macrumors accounts that simply try to debunk any problem. I mean really some of these responses can't be from actual Apple patrons.

My wife has an iphone, so do I but it collects dust. I use an S5 active and love it. I have to put a screen protector on her phone every few months as she tears that screen up. Its full of scratches. She has a pocket in her purse just for the phone and she always swears she doesn't know how the scratches got there. You know what it was from? Sand. Little bits of sand from the beach. It just blows in. Sounds crazy but guess what? Sand scratches glass. I don't doubt that phone bent in her purse. Just watch your wife, she will drop that purse on the ground, throw it in the car seat next to her, whatever. If the phone can't take that abuse then it is designed defective plain and simple.
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There is no fracking proof. That video is proof that you can produce a video that seem to break a phone. I can produce a video in which I can break break a U Lock with my hands... Doesn't make it true either. There is no need for conspiracy for this to occur... The guy made 150K from this video. This is all the motivation he needs. He may even own an Iphone, or a Samsung, doesn't matter to him; it is all about the money anyway.

You do realize that reality is biased towards facts and the reality of whatever truth exists here is quietly being revealed as bending not being an issue. Bet that the people here will would sensationalized the whole thing will claim that Apple is hiding the problem, etc; you know.. Conspiracy.

Consumer Report and Apple (touring their facility) at least demonstrated a modicum of science while everyone else is just blowing bubbles. Yes, YOU prefer the bubbles because they seem to comfort your own bias. Good for you.

BTW, If Apple is paying people to post here, they are doing a damn bad job of it since 60% of posters are obvious trolls with not one positive posts about apple in their whole posting history (yet claim to own, or having owned Apple products). BTW, Samsung has been found culpable of having Astroturfed in the past... So, hey!
 
hleewell said:
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Blackberry Passport with steel frame may be your answer if Bendgate is making you throw a fit

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I have bee telling folks that Apple is too obsessed with making their phones taller & thinner like those ridiculous supermodels at Milan catwalk.

iPhone 6 is beautifully made but a little too fragile from what I can gather
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Were did you "gather" this hey? Youtube, someone referring to the Youtube clip without ANY analysis of their own (I'd say half the media)? Please tell how you came to this hard as steel conclusion. Tell me how many of those 15-18 millions phones sold since launch were actually bent; real numbers. Is the number higher than 20?

I'm so tired of FUD, seriously, its time people actually take a media analysis course and another course on the scientific method.

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bmt134 said:
No effort here:
YouTube: video
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Seriously. If I put a clip of me breaking a U-Lock with my hands, will you give me a million dollars for being so gulible.
 
StyxMaker said:
I've also come to that conclusion. It's amazing how many of the trolls have joined MR in just the last few days.
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Yeah, I figured you would realize that also. When they keep saying the same thing over again and again, you know they're just here for attention.

As I said in a previous post, I don't understand why they put so much time and effort in criticizing someone else's decision. When I hear of problems with Androids, I don't go running and screaming on Android forums about how terrible their devices are. I honestly don't care, I have more important things to do with my time.

I wonder sometimes, if they have to put down someone else's device to validate their decision to buy whatever they bought. You would think if they were really happy with whatever they have, it wouldn't matter to them?

Anyway, time for me to get some sleep, have a good 'un!
 
SoGood said:
This is where you are wrong, where so many are narrowly focusing their attention. The big picture is that the CR test applied force on two ends of the phone, which is completely typical of a phone in a pocket. Point force is only there when one puts a coin purse or keys in the pocket at the same time.

Be sensible with a larger device and everything will be fine. Driving a truck like a family sedan will invariably cause foreseeable damages. That's all.
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I thought the cr test applied the force in the centre not at both ends.
 
BJonson said:
You know I have read this whole thread (shoot me) and one thing that keeps recurring is the constant begging of users here for proof then when proof is shown they call the people liers and accuse them of faking the video or photo and if they can't accuse them of lying they say they don't see the evidence that is right in front of them. Its pretty terrible. I am convinced that apple (and I'm sure other companies do it) has a paid team of people sitting in the basement with macrumors accounts that simply try to debunk any problem. I mean really some of these responses can't be from actual Apple patrons.

My wife has an iphone, so do I but it collects dust. I use an S5 active and love it. I have to put a screen protector on her phone every few months as she tears that screen up. Its full of scratches. She has a pocket in her purse just for the phone and she always swears she doesn't know how the scratches got there. You know what it was from? Sand. Little bits of sand from the beach. It just blows in. Sounds crazy but guess what? Sand scratches glass. I don't doubt that phone bent in her purse. Just watch your wife, she will drop that purse on the ground, throw it in the car seat next to her, whatever. If the phone can't take that abuse then it is designed defective plain and simple.
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So every phone in existence except the s5 active is defective? lol...
 
I can see if the phone got so hot that the heat caused it to warp and bend. Then there would be an issue for a mass recall. But now, whose going to give up their Iphone 6 Plus in light of the "Bending" or Bendgate? I don't think it will be a lot, if any.
 
StyxMaker said:
You can't apply force in the center without also applying equal force to the ends.
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I know that. But the force at the supports is shear force and not like the bending force in the middle. The most vulnerable part of the beam is the furthest point from the support.
 
mdlooker said:
I can see if the phone got so hot that the heat caused it to warp and bend. Then there would be an issue for a mass recall. But now, whose going to give up their Iphone 6 Plus in light of the "Bending" or Bendgate? I don't think it will be a lot, if any.
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I agree I actually think thi has the opposite effect in this crazy world we live in. Apple stays in the news cycle longer. Snubbing Samsung's alpha and note 4 launch
 
I've read as much of this article as I can bear - it got extremely tedious reading fanboys on both sides trying to outprove each other and sling mud. Also the number of personal insults being thrown is far from edifying.

Like it or not, the perception that the phones bend easier is out there. Combine this with the phone service killing update (shoddy testing) AND the forcing music from a "past it" band onto phones (arrogance) AND the iCloud hacking (privacy).

The overall perception coming out from these is that Apple is not on top of its game. Unless they deal with these issues comprehensively, they risk significant damage to their brand. If the skinny jean youth can't take advantage of the styling because of the need for a protective case, can't call or message friends, is forced to listen to mom & dads music and can't send racy pics to the latest love interest because anyone might see them, then the iphone will have lost a lot of its appeal.

An internet bunfight won't solve this.
 
osofast240sx said:
I agree I actually think thi has the opposite effect in this crazy world we live in. Apple stays in the news cycle longer. Snubbing Samsung's alpha and note 4 launch
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Absolutely, if you go to the pale stores, people are still flocking over the 6 series phones, still getting frustrated with delayed shipping, and other issues as well. They want their 6Plus!
 
j26 said:
I've read as much of this article as I can bear - it got extremely tedious reading fanboys on both sides trying to outprove each other and sling mud. Also the number of personal insults being thrown is far from edifying.

Like it or not, the perception that the phones bend easier is out there. Combine this with the phone service killing update (shoddy testing) AND the forcing music from a "past it" band onto phones (arrogance) AND the iCloud hacking (privacy).

The overall perception coming out from these is that Apple is not on top of its game. Unless they deal with these issues comprehensively, they risk significant damage to their brand. If the skinny jean youth can't take advantage of the styling because of the need for a protective case, can't call or message friends, is forced to listen to mom & dads music and can't send racy pics to the latest love interest because anyone might see them, then the iphone will have lost a lot of its appeal.

An internet bunfight won't solve this.
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Except for the fact that the iPhone is the number 1 selling phone in the world (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/23/t...illion-new-iphones-in-first-weekend.html?_r=0), and the idea that 90% of iPhone users won't even know about this whole bendable thing. Apple stock has been -basically- unaffected by this entire 'bendgate' fiasco because investors are actually informed and don't base their decisions on internet articles that assume to know about how an Apple product performs without proper testing and analysis.
 
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