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Consumer Reports: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus Not as Bendable as Believed
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And yet you missed my point entirely. The reality of physics is that the CR test is a standard cantilever stress test, and the stress gets distributed across the entire phone, such that the highest stress density would be at the weakest point. The point is that the CR test applied the same conditions to many different phones (unlike the YouTube videos of bending iPhones) and found that they were all somewhat susceptible to bending, but no where near as susceptible as the YouTube videos would make you think (at least in the case of the iPhone). The point is that if you find the weakest point and apply force directly to that point, all of these phones, for their various weakest points, will have a much greater propensity to bend, probably with roughly proportional force needed to the force found in the test results from CR. The point is that if you choose to get a big phone, regardless of the manufacturer, there is the possibility of bending it.
Umm its bends at a significantly lower amount of force than its predecessor. I would consider that alone to be proof that there is an issue. Maybe this will finally put a nail in the coffin with the fetish this industry seems to have with full aluminum body phones. Phones like the first and second generation moto x feel just as premium without being full bodied aluminum. Aluminum is an awful material to make an entire phone out of. Its terrible for reception, is very soft and also is difficult to service in comparison to other materials.
I hope this finally makes people realize that aluminum doesn't magically make a phone better.
I hope this finally makes people realize that aluminum doesn't magically make a phone better.
the article says they tried to bend it but not very hard since they have to return the review phone to apple.. then in the video, the guy in the red shirt was going to bend it but then the journalist says "oh no.. try it lightly sir.. try it lightly".?? so what's the point of the video again? try to bend it but don't try to bend it?? :roll eyes:
regardless of that, i agree with you that the phone definitely appears to be sturdy enough for everyday use.
but you can't confuse that with everyday storage/transport.. your quads&ass are the strongest muscles in your body and can apply far more force than your fingers can.. just because you see someone struggling to bend something with their hands doesn't mean they'll struggle with their legs. you might find it impossible to apply 50lbs force with your fingers but wouldn't be phased by using your thighs to generate the force..
fwiw, my point isn't much to do with whether or not the iPhone 6 is flawed or bendable or whatever.. just trying to point out that your fingers aren't the only muscles which come in contact with the phone.. in many scenarios, a phone has more interaction with legs throughout a day instead of fingers..
do you see what i'm saying?
So many folks in this thread know nothing about science, physics, or materials. This is the only guy here who knows what he is talking about. Pre-Famulated Amulite is the new wonder material, Apple should have been using this in their first iPhone. It's far better than aluminum and even the new carbon-fiber composites.
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100409110505AANTKQL
You do notice that the 5s has not been changed to meet your so callled specifications and there hasn't been any substantial mention of returns either since its launch. BTW, the 3GS shell had a tendency to cracks under falls; is that part or not of your "good old days", seems so.
Still, despite the back of my 3GS being cracked to death, it still works, just like all those severely abused 6+.
Oh, and the 5s was the top selling phone of 2014 and has a very high resale value... Not bad for such a "bad" phone. Must not be spreading the FUD hard enough; try harder...
Yes, I'm here to stay.
The thing is; don't want an android phone!!! I'm totally locked inside Apple's eco system and I'm loving it. And, I've been loving all 
products in terms of form design and UI/UX experience so far. But the new iPhone6 and Plus are a disaster. The smoothed and curved edges make the phones slip out of my fingers right away (off-topic) and just when I was thinking getting the 6+ instead of next iPad mini, I hear the phone is utterly flexible.... of course I'll be ranting about Apple's epic fail design. On a side note, a have a university degree in design and work in this area.
Would you recruit someone from a forum just because they are stubborn and refuse to budge?? I don't think Apple will hire our self proclaimed "experts" .
The comment you replied to was sarcasm
So was my comment.
Soft enough they use it in planes, with internal ribbing... Apple itself said that is was reinforced internally (with ribbings)... Another person saying things totally untrue...
It seems that the standard method won't be standard anymore. Now the preferrable new standard should apply two experiments (or an adapted method which is capable of merging both tests into a single experiment).
Rrrright! Therefore the next iPhone will be made of titanium! Who cares about pricing if it doesn't bend no more!
That's my conclusion. Your last point is nonsensical. We're not talking about anything, we're talking about a mobile device with a bending problem.
Yes, I'm here to stay.
I have so many university degrees that I don't have enough walls to put them on... Most are engineering, some business. Yes, I believe I have too many....
Anway, you may disagree with the esthetics and ergonomics of the design, that's your prerogative, but, I don't agree at all that it is an engineering failure and that it will bend under normal use. That's a totally seperate issue.
For example, you may think the new Camry is a total design failure (it has its detractors), but there's no question that it is a reliable car. Why? Because Toyota makes reliable cars. You don't have to wait 10 years to verify this.
Oh please, let's not talk about aircraft structures, you probably have no idea what you're talking about.
Let me just add this: the aircraft fuselage is deliberately designed to be flexible due to internal air pressure and g-forces during flight maneuvers...
What Apple failed to add to the iPhone body is an angular carcrass for stabilization.
EDIT: if you examine the iFixit pictures you won't find any ribbing! That's my point.
It was bad enough that the iPhone 6 (not the 6+) tied for last on the Deformation chart displayed at the end of the CR test video. Based on what you are saying, the iPhone 6 would/should have performed even worse.
It's possible to make an aluminum phone that doesn't bend, the challenge is to make a rigid 7mm thin phone. I believe the problem is that Ive demanded both thin and light, effectively ruling out the necessary steel structural reinforcements. So ironic given that a thicker all aluminum design would actually be easier to hold while remaining light.
That may be, but then it's not coming from the url you linked to, which was what we were discussing.
It's not, you are just missing the point. Since it can be replicated on anything, it's not enough to decide if there is a bending problem, because then everything has a bending problem after the same analysis is applied.
I the problem is not that it got thinner but it's the absence of structural ribbing inside. Why ribbed tin cans don't bend, yet they are so incredibly thin? <- rhetorical question.
We already know there is a bending problem, the tests and teardowns are simply a means to determine the source and severity of the problem.
If you're going to argue that these 6 pluses aren't bending with normal use, then we have nothing to discuss. I will not abide such pathological denial.
I saw an horse flying..... on YouTube
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That won't happen....
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Keep posting the same pointless fake video doesn't make it true...
The teardowns should have had revealed this internal structure
But they didn't!
Listen careful Apple!
Every engineer student can tell you that.- Status