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@ I am Andy: My post got lost in the Bentgate Video Discussion. Apple won't fix a bend iPhone 6/+ unless you pay them 379$ (79$ with Apple Care). New guarantee policy: http://imgur.com/gallery/CSSfH

Appe Care Support Senior Advisor: "... Our engineers have researched and inspected many devices and have come to the conclusion that a bend to the iPhone 6 Plus is not eligible for replacement under standard 1 year warranty. The iPhone did not encounter the bend on its own. So this is why we only have the option to replace it for 79$."

Of course I can bend it.
I can also bend an iron rod.
But Apple replaces the phone for a few dollars.
For a device that one damaged on its own.
Ok. I'll be quiet again. Enjoying my beautiful iPhone.
 
This made me remember the iPhone (original) I had whose screen got messed up after I went biking with it in my lower pocket on my cargo pants. It had weird stripes on it afterwards. It was from an e-waste recycling bin and had already been very outdated, so I wasn't too worried about it, but it still sucked because it was my only portable device.

I'm still afraid to do physical activity with the iPhone 5 in my pocket for fear of slowly damaging it over time. I could probably bend it with my hands if I tried enough.
 
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I don't understand why everyone is celebrating. Out of all of the phones they tested, the iPhone 6/Plus are noticeably weaker than all of them apart from the HTC ONE. How is that a victory for Apple?

1) Samsung Galaxy Note 3 - 150 lbs
2) LG G3 - 130 lbs
3) iPhone 5 - 130 lbs
4) iPhone 6 Plus - 90 lbs
5) iPhone 6 - 70 lbs

6) HTC ONE (M8) - 70lbs

The article says "not as bendable as believed", implying that you won't accidentally bend it by having it in your pocket. If you want to be optimistic, you can say that the iPhone 6 is relatively weak, but it's still strong enough, so it doesn't matter (like when comparing phone screen pixel densities).
 
This made me remember the iPhone (original) I had whose screen got messed up after I went biking with it in my lower pocket on my cargo pants. It had weird stripes on it afterwards. It was from an e-waste recycling bin and had already been very outdated, so I wasn't too worried about it, but it still sucked because it was my only portable device.

I'm still afraid to do physical activity with the iPhone 5 in my pocket for fear of slowly damaging it over time. I could probably bend it with my hands if I tried enough.

I have probably ridden my bike over 5,000 miles with my iPhone 5 in my front pocket, breaking a few bones on the way from several crashes. I also take it with me to the gym almost everyday followed by at least 15 minutes in the steam room. All without any case at all. The only damage incurred over my ownership is some dings in the case and a couple small scratches on the screen from being dropped numerous times. I think you should be fine...
 
it surprises me that people can purposely break a device and claim apple made it defective because it didn't survive a torture test.

how many people really had it bend during normal use?
 
Here's the reverse angle with a slow motion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZtEwpU9310&feature=youtu.be

It shows that he's not pressing with his dumbs but levering the force of his upper arms to fold the phone around his thumbs.

Same trick the UT-guy used in the street video. The iPhone he allowed his complete upper arm to add force while with the Mote, he stretches his arm and only pressed with his dumbs. Huge difference..
 
Here's the reverse angle with a slow motion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZtEwpU9310&feature=youtu.be

It shows that he's not pressing with his dumbs but levering the force of his upper arms to fold the phone around his thumbs.

Same trick the UT-guy used in the street video. The iPhone he allowed his complete upper arm to add force while with the Mote, he stretches his arm and only pressed with his dumbs. Huge difference..

Who cares... that shouldn't happen, period!
 
I have probably ridden my bike over 5,000 miles with my iPhone 5 in my front pocket, breaking a few bones on the way from several crashes. I also take it with me to the gym almost everyday followed by at least 15 minutes in the steam room. All without any case at all. The only damage incurred over my ownership is some dings in the case and a couple small scratches on the screen from being dropped numerous times. I think you should be fine...

I was with you right up until the steam room part...
 
the article says they tried to bend it but not very hard since they have to return the review phone to apple.. then in the video, the guy in the red shirt was going to bend it but then the journalist says "oh no.. try it lightly sir.. try it lightly".?? so what's the point of the video again? try to bend it but don't try to bend it?? :roll eyes:


regardless of that, i agree with you that the phone definitely appears to be sturdy enough for everyday use.

but you can't confuse that with everyday storage/transport.. your quads&ass are the strongest muscles in your body and can apply far more force than your fingers can.. just because you see someone struggling to bend something with their hands doesn't mean they'll struggle with their legs. you might find it impossible to apply 50lbs force with your fingers but wouldn't be phased by using your thighs to generate the force..

fwiw, my point isn't much to do with whether or not the iPhone 6 is flawed or bendable or whatever.. just trying to point out that your fingers aren't the only muscles which come in contact with the phone.. in many scenarios, a phone has more interaction with legs throughout a day instead of fingers..
do you see what i'm saying?

I get it.

The issue that I have is that there are people running around like their hair is on fire over a YouTube video and a handful of yet unsubstantiated reports. People are jumping to all sorts of conclusions, when there is so much that is not known. Furthermore most of those spouting off do not have the device. As of late last nigh on all of the major media outlets there is still nothing. If this is the problem that many of the self appointed experts seem to think that there is, we will hear about it very shortly. I'm not saying anyone is lying in this forum if they say their phone is bent.

There may be a big problem, there may be a small problem, there may be no problem. It's too early to tell to justify the conclusions some people are making.

I'm not pro Apple or anti-Apple on this. I for one am waiting to see what happens this week.

I happen to think that is a balanced and reasonable approach. Then again, we are on the internet where things are rarely reasonable or balanced.
 
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I get it.

The issue that I have is that there are people running around like their hair is on fire over a YouTube video and a handful of yet unsubstantiated reports. People are jumping to all sorts of conclusions, when there is so much that is not known. Furthermore most of those spouting off do not have the device. As of late last nigh on all of the major media outlets there is still nothing. If this is the problem that many of the self appointed experts seem to think that there is, we will hear about it very shortly. I'm not saying anyone is lying in this forum if they say their phone is bent.

There may be a big problem, there may be a small problem, there may be no problem. It's too early to tell to justify the conclusions some people are making.

I'm not pro Apple or anti-Apple on this. I for one am waiting to see what happens this week.

I happen to think that is a balanced and reasonable approach. Then again, we are on the internet where things are rarely reasonable or balanced.

Reasonable and balanced has no place in macrumors.
 
May the force be with iPhone 6 buyers

Dear iPhone 6 buyer,

May the force be with you and protect your device from bending! Personally, I would not consider "upgrading". The iPhone 6 did not bring any of the features everybody was expecting: it is NOT waterproof, it doesn't have a better camera than the 5S and the processor is not much faster (the fact that the semiconductor size is smaller doesn't really interest me).
The design is not significantly changed, as you can see if you take a look at the two side by side (ok, I saw just these 3D models, but they seem pretty accurate).
Why get an iPhone 6 when you can buy a 5S now and take advantage of the fact that its price went down? The price-quality ratio is much better for the 5S, in my humble opinion.
 
Geeze, what kind of scientists do they have at Consumer Reports???? Use friggin metrics please! The only unit for pressure is Pascal and Newton for force. Nothing else. Pound is a MASS unit, not a FORCE one!
 
Dear iPhone 6 buyer,

May the force be with you and protect your device from bending! Personally, I would not consider "upgrading". The iPhone 6 did not bring any of the features everybody was expecting: it is NOT waterproof, it doesn't have a better camera than the 5S and the processor is not much faster (the fact that the semiconductor size is smaller doesn't really interest me).
The design is not significantly changed, as you can see if you take a look at the two side by side (ok, I saw just these 3D models, but they seem pretty accurate).
Why get an iPhone 6 when you can buy a 5S now and take advantage of the fact that its price went down? The price-quality ratio is much better for the 5S, in my humble opinion.

Fair enough, that's your opinion. Most people would not be upgrading from a 5S however. I upgraded from a 5 and the camera is significantly better for me. It is considerably faster. You say the design is not significantly changed. I would argue that it is (and perhaps not for the better). But again, i respect your opinion. For many people, this phone is a major upgrade.

Waterproofing isn't a deal breaker for me, however it might be nice if they added that as it is to some people.

I have had my iPhone 6 for over a week and this is what I like; firstly iOS 8, rock solid and fast Touch ID, the larger screen size, while also not a deal-breaker is nice – Apple should have done this a long time ago. As I mentioned it's noticeably faster. The display is beautiful. It's thin and light – so much so that I barely know that it's there. My battery life has also been good. I generally have between 40 and 50% when I charge it at night. Of course everyone's mileage will vary as we all use our phone differently.

If it turns out that "thin and light" came at the expense of making my phone durable, then I won't be happy. So far so good – my phone seems to be very solid and I expect it to withstand day to day use.

I happen think this phone is a major upgrade for most people as most people won't be upgrading from a 5s. I know some 5s people that feel it's a worthwhile upgrade. Oh well to each, their own.
 
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This test speaks very, very poorly for Consumer Reports and what they are suppose to represent.

We don’t want a test at the strongest point of the phone. We want to know how they hold up at the very weakest areas where a phone will actually bend during normal use.

And one other thing, as long as phone makers replace bent phone in the first 2 years of normal use then this issue simply goes away. I think Consumer Reports will have to conduct a real world test and right away.

The information that they failed to bring into account is the specific weak point on the iPhone 6 Plus – this is where almost everyone’s iPhone has bent. This test, however, measures the overall structural integrity, and completely ignores the previously identified weak point. Though, to be honest, I have no idea why they didn’t address the weak point, considering they referenced the one main video, and that guy verbally comments on it in his video. I don’t know how you can reference a video, choose to challenge the observations in that video, then completely ignore the actual data in favor of your own simplified, controlled test, and sincerely proclaim that your findings are a valid counter argument.

Again, this is a nice test to see how much pressure it takes to bend phones with equally distributed force, right in the center of each device … but, that wasn’t the original issue. This resolves very little with this problem. Thank you, Consumer Reports, for essentially wasting your time and money on nothing.
 
I'm a bit flabbergasted to come here Mon AM and see this thread is still well alive. I mean this weekend there was great season ending baseball, good NFL match ups, amazing weather in most of the U.S. I assume there was great stuff going on in other countries too and yet people want to take about a phone?

When this topic fades away the detractors should write an article in a medical or scientific journal on how the human neck is poorly designed because it easily breaks under pressure of a garrote.:D
 
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Dear iPhone 6 buyer,

May the force be with you and protect your device from bending! Personally, I would not consider "upgrading". The iPhone 6 did not bring any of the features everybody was expecting: it is NOT waterproof, it doesn't have a better camera than the 5S and the processor is not much faster (the fact that the semiconductor size is smaller doesn't really interest me).
The design is not significantly changed, as you can see if you take a look at the two side by side (ok, I saw just these 3D models, but they seem pretty accurate).
Why get an iPhone 6 when you can buy a 5S now and take advantage of the fact that its price went down? The price-quality ratio is much better for the 5S, in my humble opinion.
:apple:Pay
4.7"
5.5"
1080p
OIS
Better camera
 
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