Just devil's advocate, but I bet a Ferrari suffers more damage in a 5 MPH wreck than a Nissan. Does that mean Ferrari engineers failed their task?
Aero dynamics vs a metal engineer has nothing in common lol unless they put the iphone6 to fly lol.
Just devil's advocate, but I bet a Ferrari suffers more damage in a 5 MPH wreck than a Nissan. Does that mean Ferrari engineers failed their task?
But you can't bend the M8 by hand and it doesn't bend in your pocket, much more important to the owner than the result of the CR test.![]()
Dear iPhone 6 buyer,
May the force be with you and protect your device from bending! Personally, I would not consider "upgrading". The iPhone 6 did not bring any of the features everybody was expecting: it is NOT waterproof, it doesn't have a better camera than the 5S and the processor is not much faster (the fact that the semiconductor size is smaller doesn't really interest me).
The design is not significantly changed, as you can see if you take a look at the two side by side (ok, I saw just these 3D models, but they seem pretty accurate).
Why get an iPhone 6 when you can buy a 5S now and take advantage of the fact that its price went down? The price-quality ratio is much better for the 5S, in my humble opinion.
Dear iPhone 6 buyer,
May the force be with you and protect your device from bending! Personally, I would not consider "upgrading". The iPhone 6 did not bring any of the features everybody was expecting: it is NOT waterproof, it doesn't have a better camera than the 5S and the processor is not much faster (the fact that the semiconductor size is smaller doesn't really interest me).
The design is not significantly changed, as you can see if you take a look at the two side by side (ok, I saw just these 3D models, but they seem pretty accurate).
Why get an iPhone 6 when you can buy a 5S now and take advantage of the fact that its price went down? The price-quality ratio is much better for the 5S, in my humble opinion.
Who is "everybody"? I read all the usual Apple and tech related sites daily. I don't recall any consensus on "waterproof" being an expected feature, and hard for one to do, especially when the case shells started appearing.
Anyway, your opinion is your opinion. You have every right to it. But for me, I'm heartily enjoying my 6. Even though I had no desire for a 4.7" screen I like it because the thinness of the device makes it no less of a burden to carry around in my pocket. If you want to save $100 with the 5S, that's why Apple still sells it. Enjoy. But I disagree with your analysis of the price:quality ratio. Battery life and additional screen real estate alone is enough to justify the extra $100... in my humble opinion.
This test speaks very, very poorly for Consumer Reports and what they are suppose to represent.
We dont want a test at the strongest point of the phone. We want to know how they hold up at the very weakest areas where a phone will actually bend during normal use.
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...Overall, the magazine notes that while none of the phones they tested were indestructible, all devices tested should hold up fine under everyday use.
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The worst part is that the vast majority of all of you don't really have the background required to give an intelligent FACT based debate (again excluding those with engineering background or similar).
Nah. For me, it's usually quite useful to know whether the one Im discussing with has any experience or experience in the field we're discussing. When people here say they are mechanical engineers, I listen to their claims a bit more when they discuss the technicalities of the iPhone (with good reason, I would say). In my case, its not about my "advanced degrees", but rather that I've actually been working with questions relating to the scientific status of claims for a rather long time. This actually lends some credibility to my claim in this specific area. I would never (and have never) bring up my education in areas where it's not relevant (my education doesn't give me any special insight into the technical parts of this discussion, for example).
Do they really need to say the phone are "not indestructable"? I thought these guys were professionals...
You'll find that most people in this thread criticizing the 6 don't own one.
What is your point ? Did you even think before you typed this ?
can't. believe. how long. this stupid. topic. drawn out. ugh.
No. I typed it without thinking
You feel good, champ?
It does not matter if I feel good or not. This thread is about the structural quailty of the new iPhones. There may be many reasons, why people have no iPhone 6 / 6 plus right now. The fact that you have one has nothing to do with the topic and I highly doubt that you know more about this than other people who are discussing about possible bending issues.
This test speaks very, very poorly for Consumer Reports and what they are suppose to represent.
We dont want a test at the strongest point of the phone. We want to know how they hold up at the very weakest areas where a phone will actually bend during normal use.
And one other thing, as long as phone makers replace bent phone in the first 2 years of normal use then this issue simply goes away. I think Consumer Reports will have to conduct a real world test and right away.
The information that they failed to bring into account is the specific weak point on the iPhone 6 Plus this is where almost everyones iPhone has bent. This test, however, measures the overall structural integrity, and completely ignores the previously identified weak point. Though, to be honest, I have no idea why they didnt address the weak point, considering they referenced the one main video, and that guy verbally comments on it in his video. I dont know how you can reference a video, choose to challenge the observations in that video, then completely ignore the actual data in favor of your own simplified, controlled test, and sincerely proclaim that your findings are a valid counter argument.
Again, this is a nice test to see how much pressure it takes to bend phones with equally distributed force, right in the center of each device but, that wasnt the original issue. This resolves very little with this problem. Thank you, Consumer Reports, for essentially wasting your time and money on nothing.
You'll find that most people in this thread criticizing the 6 don't own one.
So you mean if I never owned a cheap crappy plastic Samsung phone that I can't criticize their cheap crap plastic phones? Or is this just a rule for Apple products?
What's odd is everyone seems to be saying that CRs tests vindicate Apple, but the one thing they didn't test was whether the phone was likely to bend in the front pocket of a pair of jeans. I wish they could have figured out a way to test the amount of force a phone is under while in a pocket. I honestly have no idea how much stress my iPhone 5 is currently under in my front pocket. I'm not wearing skinny jeans, but I know that there have been times when I had to adjust my phone after sitting because the pressure was awkward. At this point all I really know is the 6 is about half as durable as my 5...
Nah. For me, it's usually quite useful to know whether the one Im discussing with has any experience or experience in the field we're discussing. When people here say they are mechanical engineers, I listen to their claims a bit more when they discuss the technicalities of the iPhone (with good reason, I would say). In my case, its not about my "advanced degrees", but rather that I've actually been working with questions relating to the scientific status of claims for a rather long time. This actually lends some credibility to my claim in this specific area. I would never (and have never) bring up my education in areas where it's not relevant (my education doesn't give me any special insight into the technical parts of this discussion, for example).
I love the posts praising CR in this thread. When they praise or write positive things about Apple, they are relevant and "legit." When they don't - they are a publication no one reads or cares about.
Too funny.
Of course it does. How can you declare design flaws and structural problems when you probably haven't seen one let alone own one? I don't mean you specifically, I'm talking general
If you say "because look at the youtube videos", how can you just assert that because some peoples phones bent that it's a widespread design flaw?
I don't know more about it than others, you're right. That's why I'm not declaring that the sky is falling because some guy on YouTube forcibly bent a bunch of iPhones.
When they affirm antennagate they are great, when they don't affirm bendgate, their testing is flawed
Too funny.
(Of course it's not the same people saying these things, but if you admitted that your generalization wouldn't work. Come on, man you're better than this crap)