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If they tested and found no problems... I like that too. I definite answer would be nice. I'm almost positive consumer reports doing the exact same tests would find the signal would attenuate.

You're probably right. :)

Ok. How about this? Have consumer reports test several iPhone 4 units in different markets with varying levels of service to determine if it is the phone, a specific set of units or the network.

Sounds good to me! That would be a better way to test them.

Anyway, I'm sick of my local news talking about this! You know it's bad when they're talking about it in Northeast Ohio! Also my dad keeps asking me why I'm holding on to a defective phone. :confused: I keep telling him there's a problem, but it's not as bad as it sounds.

I'm hoping for a new Mel Gibson tape to be released so they can go back to talking about that!! "I deserve to be blown!!!" haha... :eek:
 
Boo!

If consumer reports won't recommend the iphone 4 then they shouldn't recommend the 3GS either!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMMGQN2R9UE

One things for sure... consumer reports is using this as a way to draw attention to themselves and increase subscriptions. Way to prostitute yourself consumer reports...
 
From CR:
"We reached this conclusion after testing all three of our iPhone 4s (purchased at three separate retailers in the New York area) in the controlled environment of CU's radio frequency (RF) isolation chamber. In this room, which is impervious to outside radio signals, our test engineers connected the phones to our base-station emulator, a device that simulates carrier cell towers (see video: IPhone 4 Design Defect Confirmed). We also tested several other AT&T phones the same way, including the iPhone 3G S and the Palm Pre. None of those phones had the signal-loss problems of the iPhone 4."

So Apple and all the youtube contributors are doing all the wrong experiments? My BS detector is going off big time.
 
No, the distractors of this forum/media hysteria are making the issue more significant than it is.

Nope, the issue was major for me -- I could care less about any site reviews or forum posts -- The severity of the issue was based strictly off of my real-world testing which made it very inconvenient for me to hold a call at my home.

I'm sorry, but no one can convince me this wasn't a major issue... I ********** had the issue.

If you don't have any issues -- Congrats, and yes, I am jealous... but don't tell me that media outlets made this issue bigger than it really is.
 
Classic

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This is classic, Amen!!!
 
nobody care Consumer Reports. what pedestal are you standing on that makes you soooo good??????

Oh please... They made a good decision. Apple is the one on the pedestal... Tell me something, if HTC or Motorola were to send out a phone that looses so much reception when simply being held in-hand, and they only issued a free bumper for it, would your recommendation for it be any different because of it, of COURSE. You're the one conceding that because its APPLE, and because its IPHONE, it should receive a hardy 5 stars and a recommendation. The iphone 4 could make your breakfast and do your laundry, but a phone that looses so many decibels just by holding it will never get my, or the consumer reports, recommendation.
 
What people are missing is this isn't a real problem.. its existed on the old iPhone 3gs but were only really noticed on the new iPhone 4 because the seams basically tell u were not to touch and we touch it.. so they are really just giving these cases to shut everyone and the media up for blowing this **** out of proportion.. you all should see this http://www.apple.com/antenna/ why isn't consumer report making a fuss about these other phones?? This is really a normal thing.. Nexus one has the same issue as well..
 
Do people still pay attention to Consumer Reports? I used to subscribe a long time ago but got fed up with the totally passionless way they review their products--especially cars where passion is a prime factor in buying a car for many of us. But they do that with everything and although objectivity is an important factor, it is not the only factor.

Apparently Apple pays attention to them. And now all of a sudden all the brain dead Fanboys hate them. They're doing something right.
 
this is awesome. thanks for posting this.

Interesting someone posted that the FCC requires antennas to be on the bottom of the phone to avoid radiation to the top part of your head.

I've never read Consumer Reports (nor intend to) but from what I hear they ranked the iPhone #1 in smartphones (or something) and they aren't recommending it? Enough said.
 
This is classic, Amen!!!

Can someone tell me why Apple's $10 million testing lab is so impressive?

I didn't realize everyone had similar rooms at their homes and businesses where they made calls... I guess that's why it simulates real-world experience, huh?

I think I'd rather see some slides of people using the iphone 4 in various cities and towns around the country/world.

You people are so silly.
 
I don't think any of us are saying it doesn't exist. I think the general consensus is... It's a very small percentage. I can't get my calls to drop with the death grip, but that doesn't apply to everyone... Just everyone I know personally. ;)

A case isn't a fix, you're right. But for me, I've always used a case... Now we'll all get freebies. Cool.

Give me apple seeds any day, buddy. At least Apple cares about its consumers.

That said, it's just a d@mn phone.
 
Consumer Reports is just being full of themselves now. They love that they influenced apple enough to call a press conference, now they just want to see what else they can do. Honestly, did ANYONE decide to not buy an iPhone 4 after CR's announcement???
 
These show the truth, I've seen this on all phones for years!!!

Have you seen choppy reception immediately upon holding it or a dropped call in under 10 seconds?

Why is everyone so focused on showing bars drop? I want to see videos of people on calls or running data upload/download tests while doing this.

I could care less about bars dropping if my phone stays connected. Something tells me these other phones don't have that issue, or at least not as exaggerated as I saw on my iphone 4.
 
Can someone tell me why Apple's $10 million testing lab is so impressive?

I didn't realize everyone had similar rooms at their homes and businesses where they made calls... I guess that's why it simulates real-world experience, huh?

I think I'd rather see some slides of people using the iphone 4 in various cities and towns around the country/world.

You people are so silly.

Follow me around, whatever city, lets go?
 
Can someone tell me why Apple's $10 million testing lab is so impressive?

I didn't realize everyone had similar rooms at their homes and businesses where they made calls... I guess that's why it simulates real-world experience, huh?

I think I'd rather see some slides of people using the iphone 4 in various cities and towns around the country/world.

You people are so silly.

Actually you know what Apple should do to COMPLETELY solve the problem? They have the EASIEST solution in their hands due to their innovative design:

Apple should SIMPLY rotate the whole antenna frame a few inches in order to put that weak spot (the thin dividing line) on the top or lower part of the phone, where hardly any hand touches it - I am sure design changes would be minimal since the frame IS the antenna...there you have it, solved! ;)

And yes, you've read this here FIRST, thank you...Apple, don't forget to credit me when you implement this idea, OK? ;)
 
Consumer Reports is just being full of themselves now. They love that they influenced apple enough to call a press conference, now they just want to see what else they can do. Honestly, did ANYONE decide to not buy an iPhone 4 after CR's announcement???

Wonder if there are a few Gizmodo people working for CR now:D
 
Oh please... They made a good decision. Apple is the one on the pedestal... Tell me something, if HTC or Motorola were to send out a phone that looses so much reception when simply being held in-hand, and they only issued a free bumper for it, would your recommendation for it be any different because of it, of COURSE. You're the one conceding that because its APPLE, and because its IPHONE, it should receive a hardy 5 stars and a recommendation. The iphone 4 could make your breakfast and do your laundry, but a phone that looses so many decibels just by holding it will never get my, or the consumer reports, recommendation.

This is a good point that will sadly go ignored. If it was a Windows 7 phone, this forum would have a whole different tone...

I'm in the middle sort of, I don't like the way Apple handle things today. Then on the other hand I'm sick of it all.
 
Thank you for doing what I was about to do.

Now, lets see... I found... erm... mmmm... ZERO news about it. Hey look, an iPhone that has lower signal when held too tight, YAY, THAT IS NEWS!!!

All this fuzz is because news, bloggers and others need something to grab audience. Sucks.

Thanks for the compilation SiskoKid.

No, it's because people have dropped calls and choppy reception when holding their iphone 4 -- not because they see some bars drop. I don't look at the bars when I'm on the phone, so I could care less if I have 1 or 4, as long as my call stays connected.

Can you explain why my iphone 3G didn't have this issue no matter how I held it (and yes, I retested after getting the iphone 4 in the same exact location)?
 
At one time CR used to do a good job of testing products. Now however, they do not and quite frankly they're a joke. They only tested the iPhone antenna after it became a news item. Have they tested other smart phones in a similar method? Not to my knowledge.

If you know something about the products they test, its easy to see that their methods have flaws. Serious flaws. Products being used incorrectly or being used with the wrong accessories. Which makes me wonder the value of their testing on other products.
 
Nope, the issue was major for me -- I could care less about any site reviews or forum posts -- The severity of the issue was based strictly off of my real-world testing which made it very inconvenient for me to hold a call at my home.

I'm sorry, but no one can convince me this wasn't a major issue... I ********** had the issue.

If you don't have any issues -- Congrats, and yes, I am jealous... but don't tell me that media outlets made this issue bigger than it really is.

I'm aware that some iPhone 4s are clearly affected, as evidenced by some here who've exchanged them for working ones, but other factors are also to blame like poor at&t reception (no different from someone who had to return the original iPhone for this reason), comparing naked iP4 to cased 3G/3GS, etc.

A few users' experience doesn't change the fact that the whole issue is blown out of proportion.
 
Can someone tell me why Apple's $10 million testing lab is so impressive?

I didn't realize everyone had similar rooms at their homes and businesses where they made calls... I guess that's why it simulates real-world experience, huh?

I think I'd rather see some slides of people using the iphone 4 in various cities and towns around the country/world.

You people are so silly.

It is not impressive and nobody sits around in a similar room making calls. It is simply something they are using as a distraction to make people ooh and aah and think "hmmm... Maybe my iPhone doesn't have a problem after all."
 
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