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First of all all the videos relate to the signal attenuation.

And touching the iPhone with one finger doesn't drop all signal. Do you even own the iPhone 4? I'm touching mine right now and it works. He's touching his right here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMRzXKGzn0g

Also, if bridging the gap of the antennae meant it's shorting the antennae than that means the phone wouldn't work period regardless of signal strength. The thing you're failing to see is that the metal bands act as the antennae so then THAT would mean that holding the phone, but still not touching the gap, would short the antennae. It's not a hardware design issue. Sorry, buddy :D

You're a little out of touch with reality. What you don't realize is that the phones don't have the problem in ALL areas. And yes, in certian areas, it ABSOLUTELY drops a call and stops all 3G data transmission when a single finger touches the "gap". See my sig to learn a thing or two.
 
The fact Apple will NOT fix the iPhone 4 antenna problem so it works normally without the bumper case and still haven't addressed the proximity sensor problem means Apple may soon be getting a visit from the Federal Trade Commission for deliberately selling what amounts to a blatantly flawed product--especially since these problems may NOT be a software issue.

In short, Jobs' arrogance has just gotten the better of him.
 
I kind of feel bad for Consumer Reports. When apple continues to sell millions of iPhones, everyone will realize that no one cares what consumer reports has to say.
 
The fact Apple will NOT fix the iPhone 4 antenna problem so it works normally without the bumper case and still haven't addressed the proximity sensor problem means Apple may soon be getting a visit from the Federal Trade Commission for deliberately selling what amounts to a blatantly flawed product--especially since these problems may NOT be a software issue.

In short, Jobs' arrogance has just gotten the better of him.

No.
 
You don't like it, then don't read it. We have every right to say something isn't working when it isn't. Just because it doesn't happen to you or you're blind to it doesn't mean we can't state what's happening or state how we dislike it. If you love your phone so much, then go enjoy it and leave us to figure out how to fix it.

THEN TAKE IT BACK, GET A DRONE PHONE.... LEAVE......
 
The fact Apple will NOT fix the iPhone 4 antenna problem so it works normally without the bumper case and still haven't addressed the proximity sensor problem means Apple may soon be getting a visit from the Federal Trade Commission for deliberately selling what amounts to a blatantly flawed product--especially since these problems may NOT be a software issue.

In short, Jobs' arrogance has just gotten the better of him.

a flaw'd product like every other product that exhibits the same behavior?
 
Ever since the iphone 4 came out this website sucks.

Cant even comment on a news story without being insulted and having five people demand I return my phone. All of you can go fuuck yourselves
 
The phone has a defect. Apple have conceded this by allowing you to have bumpers for free.

No, they're giving them away to make the few unsatisfied users happy because they "want to make all [their] users happy," not that it's defective.

I wanted to get the iPhone on release day, but I decided to wait, and now I am considering leaving it until the iPhone 4S (or whatever), not because of one site, but because of the amount of people saying they have problems.

Based on less than 1% of users according to hard data?
 
I think there could be a good chance Apple is re-working the internals to go back to the old antenna style, while leaving the metal bands, and not saying a word. Then, everyone's happy.

Well the whole internal antenna deal is all due to Stevie Jobs. His engineers warned him specifically about this problem, but he liked the design so much that he decided no changes were necessary.
 
Exactly. Whoever is ok with accepting this as a fix for apples flaw is completely stupid. Guess people don't mind a ****** rig fix (aka bumper) for their phone. Yea I said it.

well, so I'm stupid, amen.
Yea I said it too
 
To be consistent, Consumer Reports should go back and re-check all current smartphones to see if they have the same issue. Any smartphone which shows a reduced signal should be marked out as "not recommended". Starting with the phones which Steve Jobs demoed with this fault during his presentation.
 
Did anyone else catch this?

If you look at the video and 'parse' the words, I think there will be a long term solution on or around September 30th. That's probably when they will sell iPhone 4.1....with some sort of special clear coating around the frame that will prevent direct skin contact.
 
they suck!

I don't listen to them either. All they do is work to find minor flaws and then blow them way out of proportion. They aren't smart enough build things them selfs so they try to deface those who create awesomeness! I LOVE my iPhone 4 and that makes me right and them wrong.:p



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Consumer Reports, the prominent ratings and reviews magazine, is still declining to recommend the iPhone 4 following Apple's offer of free cases for all iPhone 4 customers through September 30th. The magazine touched off a firestorm in the mainstream media earlier this week by not recommending Apple's iPhone 4 due to antenna issues despite the device topping its rankings of smartphones. The uproar lead to today's press conference at Apple's headquarters where the company addressed the antenna issues and made its offer of free cases for users.

Article Link: Consumer Reports Still Not Recommending iPhone 4
 
I agree that the number of affected users might be blown out of proportion (not according to Apple's figures though), but for the ones that have the issue, it's a big deal.

Yes, they should return them for working ones, as some have had success in doing so. Otherwise, place the blame on poor at&t reception (or amend the situation by using a bumper). Sucks, I know, but many individuals have had to return the original iPhone because at&t wasn't good enough in their areas.
 
well yeah, when you buy an iphone and to get it work properly you need to get a bumper as well.

also, why did they start making bumpers an official accessory on launch with the iphone4? what a band aid.

Quote:
Originally Posted by WozzaX
I cannot believe some of Delusional post on this forum.

CR is standing up for consumers, and obviously after some media attention as well, but it is making a stand.
If your microwave at home could only be set to 10 minute intervals and not single minutes would you buy it? Would you recommend it?

I bet if the iPhone 5 came out and couldnt go online in GPRS mode the fanboys on here would still love the phone and slate anyone like CR for saying they cant recommend it.

Get a grip.

The phone has a defect. Apple have conceded this by allowing you to have bumpers for free.



pretty much sums up there.
 
Good for Consumer Reports. The bumper is nothing but a band-aid. I don't/didn't need a bumper or a case for my 3GS, 3G, 2G. Why for the iPhone 4?

Exactly! At least I'm not the only one who's refusing to be brainwashed by steve!
 
iphone works fine for 99.45% of the users.
if yours is broken go and get it changed. or get a bumper or take it back for a full refund.
what else you want? There is not another option left to do in a biz transaction as human interaction has evolved over the few thousand years, other than what apple is offering you.
 
I kind of feel bad for Consumer Reports. When apple continues to sell millions of iPhones, everyone will realize that no one cares what consumer reports has to say.

A bit like you then?

People will continue to listen to CR and not care what you have to say.

Same mentality.

CR have an opinion based on fact. They dont want to recommend a faulty device. A small fault which affects people based on location is still a fault.

Have you ever know something has a fault, be it big or small and still recommended it to a friend or family?
 
perception

If Steve's little dog and pony show of cherry-picked statistics and a bumper case can stave off a recall costing hundreds of millions of dollars, then of course it's in Apple's interest to try.

I'm an Apple fanboy, Steve Jobs is my guru, and I love my iPhone 4. I'm not giving it up and I'm not hiding its elegant design inside an ugly piece of rubber.

I also just bought a new Toyota, a company which didn't have a masterfully communicative CEO to talk everyone out of recalls, even in the absence of any data whatsoever that there was a problem. To this day, Toyota never found a problem.

People freak out easily and the press fans the flames to get attention. This crap has been going on for a while now.

Recalls are typically done for safety issues, or when a product simply fails rather completely in a key area. A small loss of signal strength is not recall-worthy.

I subscribe to Consumer Reports. I trust them. They are nonprofit and they go out of their way to be unbiased. They don't recommend the iPhone 4 at this time. I have no problem with that. I need them to be conservative in their recommendations to balance against the hype coming out of company promotions of products. They rated the Jeep Wrangler at the bottom of their list and I bought one anyway and loved it. They were right, it was a horrible car in almost every way. But I still loved it.

I respect Apple. I trust Consumer Reports. And I love my iPhone 4, bar none. Well, maybe not bar none. I'll settle for at least one bar.

So as my Toyota blindly accelerates me to my doom as I death-grip my iPhone 4 and I lose the call with AppleCare in my last seconds of life, I just want everyone to know that I died happy.
 
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